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Rudey 12-17-2004 12:06 PM

Re: Re: you missed the point entirely
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

You all just bitch slapped an old man.

-Rudey


Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Erik, STFU, you don't know what you're talking about, sorority life is very different from fraternity life.

Not only that, but your own fraternity has some "weenie" chapters of it's own, if by weenie you mean small in size. TKE at Pitt has been one of the smallest for years (if they're even still there), and they didn't have a real house. What does that make them?

As has been said, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

What kind of representative are you of your fraternity for constantly insulting small chapters, the women of GC, etc? How is that living up to your fraternity's ideals?


Rudey 12-17-2004 12:10 PM

In these difficult times, I think the only way we really get through them is to ask What Would Brother Rodney Do?

Edited to add: I need a picture to go with the name. Who do you think represents Rodney best? http://images.google.com/images?q=rodney&hl=en

-Rudey
--WWBRD?

Erik P Conard 12-17-2004 12:11 PM

TKEs in small chapters
 
yes....
and, Jocelyn...you need to take a course in reading comprehension. You need it badly. This is not a generalization,
and it is not aimed at small NPC chapters. It is aimed at you.

sugar and spice 12-17-2004 01:47 PM

Re: TKEs in small chapters
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
yes....
and, Jocelyn...you need to take a course in reading comprehension. You need it badly.

Cough cough. Pot, meet kettle.

Wine&SilverBlue 12-17-2004 01:53 PM

Re: Re: you missed the point entirely
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Little E
Grow up, unless you can personally vouch that there is not a SINGLE chapter of TKE under 50, or whatever number you think constitutes 'large', stop being judgmental and condescending towards others.
um.. im 99% sure the TKE chapter at my school has under 50 members... considering they took one pledge during formal rush last year.... oops, i probably shouldnt have gone there :rolleyes:

ETA: according to their chapter website they have 32 active members (assuming that they removed the names of those who graduated last year... considering that the rest of the site hasnt been updated since last spring)

starving_writer 12-17-2004 02:29 PM

Zeta Kappa chapter of TKE at Portland State University has 20 members.

WCUgirl 12-17-2004 02:40 PM

I'd really hate for this to turn into a TKE-bashing thread and get closed. This thread could be very helpful for Trish and anyone else who is helping a small chapter. Can we please just ignore Erik's comments and get back to the original topic?

KSUViolet06 12-17-2004 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by starving_writer
Zeta Kappa chapter of TKE at Portland State University has 20 members.
And might I also add that the chapter at my university is below 20 as well. And we're not bashing TKE here, but the point is that you say things like unhoused chapters are not real fraternities and small chapters are unfit to remain part of the national and are"weenies". What you don't grasp is that your OWN organization has small chapters that are unhoused. So when you make statements like that from your "lofty" place, you are insulting your own fraternity as well.

But anyway, Trish, as long as you are all maintaing in numbers, and are roughly around the same size, there's no need to worry (despite what others say). Just focus on good Panhellenic PR, there's some good threads over in the Rush forum right now about that. Also, WEAR YOUR LETTERS and SMILE.
:)

Lady Pi Phi 12-17-2004 02:42 PM

Erik, if you think our headquarters are making mistakes by keeping small chapters, perhaps you should write to them and tell them how to do their jobs.

GeekyPenguin 12-17-2004 03:06 PM

Re: you missed the point entirely
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
you are still making excuses for having a weenie chapter, and
you do not grasp, even grasp, what is being said.
Go to your room.

What about Mu-Nu? That chapter is certainly lacking in size compared to SigEp, SigTau, Delta Sig, and AGR on its campus (a teacher's college, no less), despite being founded large. Would you like to tell your brothers their chapter is worthless?

Also, I was wondering why TKE doesn't have the ability to be successful at Marquette despite several attempts. Perhaps we should talk about that, Eric. I'm pumped up and ready to tell you how I think your fraternity does things wrong

KSigkid 12-17-2004 03:07 PM

I know that our chapter was at one point down to less than 20 brothers; largely through the efforts of brothers within the chapter we built ourselves back up into the 60s and 70s (with little or no help from IFSC). That's not to say that numbers are the most important thing, but there are ways to do it.

Does your campus have a freshman move-in day? Does the school ask for volunteers? Brothers in our chapter helped with move-in, and it not only was a great way to meet freshmen, but also to meet parents. That way, when Rush came along, we were known as the nice guys who helped with move-in.

How about going straight to the dorms/residence halls. Sometimes the best way to get people is to knock on doors and find them. There may be a large percentage of the school that doesn't even know there's Greek life.

Good luck with your goals, hopefully you're finding some help on the board.

GeekyPenguin 12-17-2004 03:09 PM

Now, AXiDTrish, I shall help you.

My chapter was very successful with rush by rushing girlfriends of our boyfriend's fraternity brothers. We doubled our size doing that, and since we knew these guys only pledged quality members, we knew we'd more than likely be getting quality girls. We focused on different groups of people every year - the first semester it was the XYZ girlfriends, the next semester it was some girls from the basketball team - niche recruiting works really well on a small campus.

If it is a technical school in the sense of engineering, I would have Panhellenic make a presentation to the Society of Women Engineers - those are women who already understand/desire female companionship and will likely be somewhat receptive to sororities.

qteasied 12-17-2004 04:35 PM

No offense, but wouldn't that give your GLO a rep for only taking(insert group here) girls. I'm glad it worked for you guys, but I know that on my campus has a bad problem with stereotypes. My interest group is trying to find more ways to start recruting for next semester, and that makes it hard for us. I'm not really experienced with Greek life at all, so if there's something here that I don't understand, sorry.

GeekyPenguin 12-17-2004 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by qteasied
No offense, but wouldn't that give your GLO a rep for only taking(insert group here) girls. I'm glad it worked for you guys, but I know that on my campus has a bad problem with stereotypes. My interest group is trying to find more ways to start recruting for next semester, and that makes it hard for us. I'm not really experienced with Greek life at all, so if there's something here that I don't understand, sorry.
Not really - because we take a new member class every semester, and each semester we pledged a differing group - and now we're at the point where as a stronger chapter, we don't have to work as hard to recruit because we already have ties established all over campus.

shadokat 12-17-2004 05:09 PM

Nothing like a little TKE bashing party! YIKES! AXiDtrish, good advice from others regarding going to other campus organizations...get your members to join other campus organizations and recruit from within. That has been successful for several chapters I know of.


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