I love how everything is irrelevant but what you think. If your opinion matters most maybe you should get into politics and tell people that you know whats best for them.

I'll drop into this thread from time to time to see if it becomes relevant at some point in the festivities.

Forty plus year old DUI's from someone who for all practical purposes was still a kid. BFD. Can you imagine how exciting Wyoming must have been at that time for a 21 year old?
Hell, I might have had a DUI myself if I lived there in 1960.

Is this one of the straws they refer to when they say that "they're really grabbing at straws"?

Just asking...

But again, if you want to post that someone is scum without reason fine. That's irrelevant and makes no sense.

The 2 are completely different.

-Rudey

Well he sent innocent men and women over to Iraq to possibly because of WMD's but after there were no WMD's he now says its for national security. It maybe true he got faulty info and had no idea but don't lie about the reason going over there after your first reason falls through. If he was a man of honor and compassion he would have admited to his mistakes. He changed the reason to justify keeping the troops there. Now our troops our dieing for a people that seemingly doesn't want us there anymore. My brother in law has to go over there for a year now and dodge bullets because of Bush's BS. That's the way I see it. Now it's time for you to say I am spreading lies even though I am giving my opinion on how I see things.

That's not Bush's BS. That is something your Kerry voted for and then also said regardless of WMD we should be at war. So if this is the real reason you find him to be scum Brandon, do you find Kerry and the Democrats to be scum?

-Rudey

If Kerry had been president and sent the troops I probably wouldn't like Kerry right now. I have a feeling if Kerry is elected despite what he says now we won't be in Iraq more than 2 years. At the time of the vote it was what most the country wanted so I don't blame him for voting that way. First Kerry is bashed about bein anti war then its brough up he voted for the war. I guess it must be a lose /lose situation.

If he had a DUI last year, it would depend on the circumstances. Shrug, just because get pulled over and blow over the legal limit doesn't make you evil.

Again, Kerry was responsible for sending the troops to Iraq along with others when he took that vote, and WMD does not factor in. Kerry just chose not to fund our soldiers afterwards.

But again, don't throw the word scum around. There is really 1 American president I would call scum - Carter. A couple senators and congressmen qualify as well, but I rarely go around insulting any politician. A lot of people hated Clinton and other Democrats, but I didn't, so thus I don't apply these awful labels to them.

-Rudey

Lol you call Carter scum but say Nixon isn't? Interesting. I guess you don't have the capablity to be bi-partisan. You can think my opinion is irrelivant but that won't change how I view certain politicians. I highly doubt I am the only person that see's those certain politicians as scum either.

Brandon - A.) Spellcheck, brother. B.) Read about Carter and Nixon beyond Habitat for Humanity and Watergate, there's much more to each man, you might learn something C.) If you write one more post mentioning "WMD" w/ that pro-Kerry tag in your f-ing signature, you eliminate any semblance of credibility you once had, Rudey has explained why this argument is futile, but you repeatedly bring it up. Dude, it's broken record material at this point, and you honestly don't have a leg to stand on.

The "At least Clinton's lies never killed anyone!!!1" argument is tiring if you don't have anything to contribute beyond that superficial bit of fallacious logic.

OK don't just throw out names. Why Nixon? I bet you don't even know why I dislike Nixon (hint: he was a vile anti-semite). However, he didn't personally affect me in the way Carter did.

-Rudey

i can't believe my post was deleted.....that hasn't happened in a WHILE. :(

someone's gonna PAY! :mad: :D :mad: ;)

Well I was asked why I thought Bush was scum so I said it. Sorry the WMD thing was part of it. If people don't like my reasons for certain views then don't ask me, just go ahead and think I am a stupid liberal. I think it is highly likely people that don't agree with me politically don't find anything I say credible, anyways. Just because someone thinks my post or thoughts on a subject are insignificant doesn't mean I should just shut up and keep to myself.

you misunderstand, my man - it's cool if you think bush is 'scum', I'm not exactly driving his campaign bus around either. you can also feel any way you want w/ re: to any issues, including WMD - but i'm just saying that when we continuously have the same conversations on here, it's counterproductive and leads to the bullshit backbiting we currently are wallowing in.

I've never taken the "stupid liberal" line w/ anyone, if you'll notice, and if someone honestly provides solid arguments against my views, I'll up and alter them. At no point did I say your posts were 'insignificant' - just that the single argument about WMDs, which DID exist and WERE dangerous and KILLED thousands of Kurds, is overplayed and minute in power.

commence with rocking out with your respective cocks out.