the way we def. it on my campus is

Sweetheart: when a frat's philanthropy comes up, each sorority sends a sister up for a "sweetheart interview" and the frat pics out of the girls who interview, its bascially a female representative of that frat to promote their frat on campus and to promote RUSH ___ whatever frat is it..

Lil Sis: a lil sis to a frat guy is just like a lil sis/big sis thing they are sorority girls its just like another mentor in your life that can help guide you though greek life, they are of a older pledge class than you and just a male guide for you, my big bro has become one of my good friends! they are usally appointed by your big sis and usally a friend of hers.

I'm inclined to agree with Jubilance. I'm not about to go picking up after boys. In fact, one of the things that first impressed me about my favorite fraternity on my campus is that they clean up after themselves. It's quite something to walk into a house full of guys and see them vacuuming, dusting, etc. Sweetheart/Little Sis groups used to exist here, and from what I'm told, cleaning wasn't the only sort of "service" they provided.

My feeling is that a sorority is a place for a woman to establish herself as a strong individual, independent of men. Why a group of women would want to attach themselves to men to service them in whatever way is beyond me.

I think that most of these girls used is as a stepping stone or wanted to be in a sisterhood without going Greek. I even know some girls who became Sweethearts after they went Greek. I don't think its a bad thing, but I know everyone has a different opinion about it. I respect all orgs. I know some Kappa Sweets and they believe in their org and they are not hoes or anything but they see themselves as brothers of the Kappas. They have their own functions too. It just depends.

Just for clarification some orgs are:
Alphas- Alpha Angels, Ladies of Black and Gold, Ladies of the Yellow Rose, LBGs, Alpha Sweethearts
Kappas- Kappa Sweethearts, Krimison Kourt Inc., Kappa Kittens, Kappa Diamonds,
Sigmas-Sigma Doves, Sigma Souls
Ques- Omega Pearls, Que Pearls, Ladies of Essence, Ladies of Purple and Gold
Iota- Iota Sweethearts(these Sweets are national recognized)

Besides the Iota Sweets, the others are banned by their nationals but they still run with their respective orgs.

But, I have also heard that they get hated on by some divine nie sororities because of it but it could be a rumor.:rolleyes:

It really seems like sweetheart orgs are fun and temporary social clubs. From what I've seen, though, it gets old. UNLESS, the org is really independent of the father/mother organization.

That's not a rumor,lol.

Perhaps stereotypes wasn't quite the right word. Perceived sexism?

In Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, the policy prohibiting little sister orgs is included in our risk management policies, and it outlines the reasons that little sisters orgs are prohibited. Along with risk management/liability, endangerment of single-sex status and the potential (and reality) of adversely affecting relationships with sororities, these reasons are given:

-- "Women's organizations and female faculty members often consider these auxiliary groups to be demeaning and sexist because the women involved in such groups are faced with the responsibilities of membership without the reward of full membership status in the fraternity."

-- "Many individuals outside the Fraternity world view these organizations as formalized dating services. They are critical also because the women's focus in such groups is totally on the men rather than on their own personal development."

So perhaps it wasn't as much an issue in other fraternities, but in Sinfonia at least, there was some concern that little sister orgs promoted a sexist, "dating service" or "waiting on the men" image that the Fraternity would prefer to avoid.

Sorry to be an ignoramous, but why would you hate on them? Just curious how their affiliation with the fraternity affects you.

We didn't have formal orgs at my school, but each Fraternity had women that they called lil sises / Rush Hostesses. Basically the groups were made up of women (sorority or not) that were good friends with the guys and were asked to help represent the Fraternity. They were not asked to do any "personal" favors for the guys - whether that be cleaning up or sexual. These women most often just went to the rush events and mingled. I don't think anyone viewed these orgs as demeaning - most viewed it as an honor to be asked, and everyone knew that the groups were unofficaial. They also weren't viewed as independent social groups or wanna be GLOs.

Along the same lines the sororities had "coaches" that were elected and would help out with intermural sports and come to parties and stuff. Again nothing formal, just something to honor the guys that were there for us.

I'm a sweetheart, and I have never slept with a brother, or even done ANYTHING sexually with them. I am their sweetheart because I support them wholeheartedly and love them. I understand sweetheart status varies campus to campus. So I don't think they should all be classified together.

no comment.


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There is a big difference between being a Sweetheart (i.e. Pike Sweetheartor princess or whatever) this is usually one girl that is very close the fraternity(girlfriend of a brother) and a sweetheart org.. A sweetheart org. is a group of girls that are connected to the fraternity - they consider themselves sisters to the brothers and share some ritual(I'm not sure of this). The thread I believe was originally talking about sweetheart orgs.

Exactly. Our chapters may have sweethearts, but there can be only one chapter sweetheart at a time. What is prohibited is an organized group of sweethearts or little sisters.

I believe there are legal reasons for the elimination for the auxilary groups. Can anybody remind me what they are?

Basically,

(1) such a group can be considered an arm of the chapter, so that a fraternity's liability could extend not only the acts or negligence of a chapter itself but also to the acts or negligence of the auxilliary group;

and

(2) the functioning of a fraternity chapter and an auxilliary group as a common unit at social and other events could jeopardize a fraternity's single-sex status.

MysticCat, that is exactly true! This all arose about the same time that Risk Management became a domonite issue!

Whether you called the ladies who assisted ,Sweethearts or as we called them Cresent Girls makes no difference. They were there not to clean, do sexual favors or anything else, they were there to make help make a Nice Presentation and put some class to any function.:D

Guys can dress up, but some of the social functoins of a young man leave a lot to be desired!:)