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Finer Woman10-A-91 09-07-2005 01:43 AM

Re: Re: Re: Some food for thought
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rain Man
Thanks a lot, Tom for your support! :)

You are correct, it really isn't cut and dried.

And believe it or not, I think a lot of GCers are reading and learning from this thread. We tend to oversimplify the history of any GLO without taking into consideration there are a lot of factors, external and internal that play into the direction the org goes in their future years.

This is a great thread and I'm glad I started it (oops, I mean FinerWoman10A91) ;) :p

Well, that certainly explains it. I did n't know there were server problems that jacked up postings...I don't post here the way I used to...

ladygreek 09-07-2005 02:00 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Some food for thought
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Finer Woman10-A-91
Well, that certainly explains it. I did n't know there were server problems that jacked up postings...I don't post here the way I used to...
Tried to send you a PM. Mailbox full. :(

Rain Man 09-07-2005 05:30 PM

OK, now on to the sororities
 
Here is the list (I hope I can do this in 2 posts or less)

Alpha Delta Theta
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Phi Mu
- Founded in the fall of 1919 at Transylvania College
- Had 25 chapters
- Joined the NPC in January 1926 and was the first national to be recorded as an associate member of the NPC
- Merged with Phi Mu at the close of the NPC Conference in November 1939.
- Hazel Falconer Benninghoven, ADT national president at the time of the merger, later became the national president of Phi Mu, perhaps the only person to serve as national president of two NPC orgs.

Alpha Kappa Psi
- Primary cause of decease: Weak organization(?)
- Founded in 1904 at St. Mary's School
- Had about 8 chapters
- No info was given as to whether it merged or dissolved, only that total membership was about 600

Alpha Sigma Delta
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Lambda Omega (see listing)
- Founded in 1919 at the University of California
- Does not indicate any additional chapters acquired
- Merged with Lambda Omega in April 1932

Beta Phi Alpha
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Delta Zeta
- Founded May 8, 1909 at the University of California, Berkeley originally named Bide-a-wee, changed its name to Aldebaran a few months later, then to Kappa Phi Alpha in 1919, and finally Beta Phi Alpha when the movement toward expansion gained strength.
- Had over 30 chapters
- Merged with Delta Zeta 6/22/41

Beta Sigma Omicron
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Zeta Tau Alpha
- Founded 12/12/1888 in Columbia, Missouri
- Had 61 chapters
- Merged with Zeta Tau Alpha August 1964
- 15 chapters were active at the time of merger, of these three chapters did not wish to affiliate and reverted back to local status, one of which retaining the name Beta Sigma Omicron.

Delta Sigma
Almost Delta Sigma Theta, but not quite ;)
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Alpha Omicron Pi
- Founded 1895 at Tufts College
- Had 3 chapters, 2 of which merged with AOPi, the third died out when sororities were abolished at Brown University in 1911.

Delta Sigma Epsilon
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Delta Zeta
- Founded 9/23/14 at Miami University
- Had 52 chapters, of which 44 were active, some due to a merger with Phi Omega Pi (see listing).
- Merged with Delta Zeta in 1956

Iota Alpha Pi
- Primary cause of decease: Weak organization
- Founded at Hunter College in 1903
- Had 23 chapters, 13 active, 10 inactive
- Disbanded in 1971
- Notable fact: their pin was a diamond shaped pin that was surrounded by a border of twenty pearls *hint hint*

Lambda Omega
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Theta Upsilon (see listing).
- Founded 5/5/23 at the University of California
- Had 8 chapters
- Merged with Theta Upsilon in September 1933

Phi Omega Pi
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Delta Zeta
- Founded 3/5/10 at the University of Nebraska
- Had an unknown number of chapters, but acquired Sigma Phi Beta (see listing).
- Joined the NPC October 1933.
- 3 chapters were inactive when POP joined the NPC. Subsequently, chapters were taken over by Alpha Omicron Pi, Alpha Gamma Delta, Sigma Kappa, and Kappa Alpha Theta.
- The group disbanded in 1946, but through an NPC committee, Delta Zeta was asked to consider the alumnae and a few chapters which remained. The merger with Delta Zeta became official on 8/10/46.

Pi Delta Theta
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Delta Sigma Epsilon
- Founded in 1925 and Alpha Chapter installed 2/14/26 at Miami University.
- Had 29 chapters, 4 active, 5 inactive, and 20 alumnae.
- Merged with Delta Sigma Epsilon in September 1941.

Pi Kappa Sigma
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Sigma Kappa
- Founded 11/17/1894 at Michigan State University as J.P.N. It became Pi Kappa Sigma in 1897.
- had 48 chapters
- Merged with Sigma Kappa 5/15/59

Pi Lambda Sigma
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Theta Phi Alpha
- Founded June 1921 at Boston University
- Had 4 chapters
- Merged with Theta Phi Alpha 6/28/52

Sigma Phi Beta
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Phi Omega Pi
- Founded 11/1/20 at New York University originally under the name of Sigma Sigma Omicron until 7/28/27.
- Amalgamated with Phi Alpha Chi 1/7/28, having similar purposes and interests to become Sigma Phi Beta.
- Had 8 chapters, 3 coming from the former Phi Alpha Chi.
- Merged with Phi Omega Pi on 10/1/33.

Sigma Sigma Omicron
(see Sigma Phi Beta)

Theta Sigma Upsilon
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Alpha Gamma Delta
- Founded 3/25/21 at Kansas State Teachers College originally as a local founded in 1909 as the Sigma Society, but had its name changed when the org went national.
- Had 23 chapters
- Merged with Alpha Gamma Delta 6/29/59

Theta Upsilon
- Primary cause of decease: Merger with Delta Zeta
- Founded 1914 at the University of California
- Joined the NPC as an associate member in 1923, and as a full member in 1928
- had 39 chapters, four of which from acquiring Lambda Omega (see listing).
- Merged with Delta Zeta 5/6/62.

Trianon
- Primary cause of decease: Weak organization(?)
- Founded 12/28/29 at the University of Cincinnati(?).
- Had 4 chapters.
- Baird's does not specify whether this group was dissolved or was acquired by another organization.

Well, that's all the sororites. Baird's does include professional and honor societies that died out, but that goes beyond the scope of the purpose of our discussion here, so that will be excluded.

A summary will be posted in the "NPHC..10th group" thread later on.

Hope you've enjoyed your time here--I will be back to post some related questions that ties Mccoyred's initial post and my initial post, so we will be having another merger of some sort *LOL*

So drive carefully, and all that other good stuff.

sigmadiva 09-07-2005 10:10 PM

Wow RainMan you have done and are doing a lot of work!!! :)


Reading about all of these mergers and disolved orgs makes appreciate even more the history and strength of my own org. Starting next year NPHC orgs are going to start celebrating 100 years of continous existance. Something to be proud of :D.

DSTCHAOS 09-07-2005 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Wow RainMan you have done and are doing a lot of work!!! :)

LOL.

abaici 09-08-2005 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by starang21
i think rainman should get poster of the year for taking time out of work, family, and life to go through the painstaking process of finding ALL of the fraternities and sororities that don't exist anymore.

kudos.


ROFL

I don't see the point, but cool.

Rainman, are you cutting and pasting this info? I don't think you are, but I want to believe you are.

Rain Man 09-08-2005 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
ROFL

I don't see the point, but cool.

Rainman, are you cutting and pasting this info? I don't think you are, but I want to believe you are.

No, ma'am. It's all str8 typing, with a very thick book at my side.

Read, interpret, analyze, type (Repeat)

Post (so I don't lose what I already typed), edit post, repeat the above.

Quite a process.

DSTCHAOS 09-08-2005 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
ROFL

I don't see the point, but cool.

Rainman, are you cutting and pasting this info? I don't think you are, but I want to believe you are.

LOL.

IOTA-4A'88F 09-14-2005 01:38 AM

Thanx RainMan for all the info...it all seem "greek" to me.:)
It is profound at the number of orgs that did survive and are doing well.
I-PHI-T

Rain Man 09-15-2005 01:15 PM

Thanx for the support, Iota4A88F. I had fun researching it! :D

Now that my conclusion has been posted in the other thread as promised, and IMHO our thread discussion has came full circle (as I figured it would, but was one heckuva lovely ride), I will re-ask my original question I posted in this thread, now that I have everyone's attention: ;)

Would any of the NPHC orgs be willing to merge with a Black non-NPHC org? (merge meaning to adopt some of the other orgs' traditions, rituals, colors, even name, etc.)

Would any of the NPHC orgs be willing to acquire a chapter(s) of a Black non-NPHC org and have them become your org's chapters (keeping your identity fully intact)?

*The following question is related to the previous one*

Would any of the NPHC orgs be willing to absorb a Black non-NPHC org and have them become your org's chapters, again keeping your identity fully intact?

Wolfman 09-15-2005 04:53 PM

Rainman-

I would answer negative to all your questions, under normal circumstances. I think that NPHC Greek-letter societies are different from NIC and NPC groups in that they are a part of a "niche market" and for the most part are not really in the broader "general" market where there is intense competition for members. And the ethos of NPHC orgs in general is that active expansion as a matter of survival is not as crucial for the reasons mentioned above.

Also, these organiztions, in important ways, have developed identities vis-a-vis other organizations, and as they well known, new chapters or organizations would have to be totally assimilated lock,stock and barrel--no mergers would be acceptable. But I don't think that any NPHC org would be open to this for the reason stated above, and that newer Black Greek-letter orgs have come into existence as alternatives to the "status quo" here. Since Phi Beta Sigma rejected the overtures of Kappa Alpha Psi in their early years, two fraternities that had similar philosophies, it does not appear feasible for this occur now when these organizations have full-grown and entrenched legacies and traditions. And the cross cultural dynamics would make this even more difficult!

"Que Psi Phi 'til the day I die!"

Tom Earp 09-15-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolfman
Rainman-

I would answer negative to all your questions, under normal circumstances. I think that NPHC Greek-letter societies are different from NIC and NPC groups in that they are a part of a "niche market" and for the most part are not really in the broader "general" market where there is intense competition for members. And the ethos of NPHC orgs in general is that active expansion as a matter of survival is not as crucial for the reasons mentioned above.

Also, these organiztions, in important ways, have developed identities vis-a-vis other organizations, and as they well known, new chapters or organizations would have to be totally assimilated lock,stock and barrel--no mergers would be acceptable. But I don't think that any NPHC org would be open to this for the reason stated above, and that newer Black Greek-letter orgs have come into existence as alternatives to the "status quo" here. Since Phi Beta Sigma rejected the overtures of Kappa Alpha Psi in their early years, two fraternities that had similar philosophies, it does not appear feasible for this occur now when these organizations have full-grown and entrenched legacies and traditions. And the cross cultural dynamics would make this even more difficult!

"Que Psi Phi 'til the day I die!"


Yes, but have All Greeks not done the same thing?

I dont really care which Organization it is, We All Have Agendas for Functional things right??

Wolfman 09-15-2005 08:16 PM

Tom-

No. The whole premise of the thread is the historical fact that BGLOs have not,by and large, engaged in mergers or basically acquiring strength through assimilating other orgs or chapters of other Greek-letter orgs. This requires an historical, contextual explanation. You have to explain the phenomenon!

I was simply offering my thoughts on why this phenomenon has occurred. Of course what you said has some validity but it has nothing to do with the particular issue at hand. And it's not grounded in a knowledge of the historical and cultural exigencies of NPHC groups and their ethos.

(When I wrote that previous bit I considered writing something to address the dynamics you brought up but it was not addressing the issue at hand, in my thinking,-plus I didn't want to write a mini-dissertation.)

"Que Psi Phi 'til the day I die!"

IOTA-4A'88F 09-16-2005 04:46 AM

In my opinion, I don't think mergers are neccessary in today's organizations. From Rain Man's posts, a majority of fraternities and sororities disbanded because of war and happenings coinciding with that particular time. We live in the "info" technology age where it is easier to get your organizational
ideas and philosophies across.
I am an Iota but I cannot speak for my organization because it would not be right for one man to speak for many without permission. I do know that Iota Phi Theta will never adopt someone elses colors or name but we are an organization that prides itself on growing and building upon traditions and rituals. Our foundation is set in stone but our house is constantly building. I don't believe a merging org. should automatically get the privileges of another without proving themselves worthy.
I don't know what is in another man's heart, but I do know I don't want a "what if" brother. Meaning someone who will always wonder "what if my organization survived," while he is representing Iota. He (they as a chapter) will have mental reservations to abide by another organization's obligations.
Prayers and Happiness to all who reads this post.


Marcus
Subdue your passions, free your mind and listen to your soul.


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