True, but I was talking about the scenario(s) surrouding A&F entering the mainstream market of "college-aged" and "young adults." This was well before the controversy (among many) involving said shirts.

What do you think she was talking about? :rolleyes:

To all:

Regarding the A & F incident, did they eventually pull the T0shirts?

I'm not saying this to be a smart ass but can we really assume what race/ethnicity most people on the internet are? After all, we are merely a bunch of words that are sometimes different colors and fonts. Maybe it's a little different though if we know eachother a little more, I dunno.

I do know that I don't agree with the game because I think it depicts negative stereotypes.

I said majority specifically in my post because I know one of the people who said they didn't have a problem with the game is African American. I've been on gc for over two years and just by reading different posts many people have shared their ethnicities within posts over the years.

yeah, they did. after petitions and stuff like that were filed and there was a big deal about it.

OK but what if it's just the neighborhood and lifestyle as opposed to the race? If you walk around the south side of chicago, you see all that. If you don't believe me, come with me and we'll take a stroll. You will see the "ghetto" and it will be filled with blacks from the lower economic bracket. Is the game making fun of the race or the neighborhood? Is it playing on a stereotype or is that pretty much how the "ghetto" is? I don't know what ghetto doesn't have hookers and homeless people drinking 40's.

-Rudey

Slight Hijack,

This summer I had my internship in Chicago and worked on the South Side. 47th and State!!! I'm now moving to Chicago after school. :)


Now back to the subject. The subject of the neighborhood is not funny. Although the ghetto does have "hookers and homeless " people is that funny. The ghetto also has families who are working hard to improve thier situation. I think the game makes a one-sided joke about something that's not particularly funny. Especially to the people living in that situation OR the people who are not in that situation but are lumped into that group simply because of the color of their skin.


:) :) :)

I agree with Virtuous Erudite. I worked at a homeless shelter in Washington, DC this summer. People who talk about the "ghetto" really get on my nerves. Have you ever met someone or tried to get to know someone or had friends who live in these areas?

Basically, stereotyping just shows your own ignorance. I am LMAO at all the people who get mad at bad Greek publicity/stereotyping but seem to think that you can say anything at all about those of other races or ethnic heritages.

Also thought I'd add that I have seen Greekopoly. I almost bidded on a copy on eBay. It wasn't a homemade version... so... if you search you can probably find it.

And another note... even if you aren't offended at the idea of "redneckopoly" or whatever... I bet you wouldn't think it was nearly as hilarious.

LOL. Ok I think the area you worked in wasn't that bad. Like it's definitely not pretty and I probably wouldn't feel too great about being there that late, but that's not really south enough. South is where the cops pull you over for being white and tell you to stop being stupid and to get out of there. I honestly wouldn't recommend Chicago to you though. Do you have any idea what it's like when it's cold here? Or how about being a really dead city? Awful, awful place.

And while I understand how there are people trying to improve their situations, they are surrounded by what the game shows. Would it have been better to show some good folks in the game to paint a realistic picture of the neighborhood? I doubt that would have changed how you feel.

-Rudey
--I swear if Mrs. O'Leary's cow burns down Chicago again, I think I'll really be ok with it.

So people stereotype by showing what's going on in the ghetto is what you're trying to say?

-Rudey
--OK

Well I'm from Tennessee and the area I worked in was pretty poor, or at least alot more poverty than I am used to seeing. My job was in the heart of the Robert Taylor homes if you are familiar with it. The problem comes when people, or in this case Mr. Chang, choses to highlight drugs, guns, and gangs as if that is the end all be all of life in "the ghetto". I doubt Mr. Chang was trying to highlight the horrors of poverty with this game. It seems like he was just trying to make light of an awful situation.

Hijack,

I LOVED Chicago. I'm not really afraid of the cold and the city had wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more to do than where I'm from. It was far from dead, I went to things every single day.

Re: Regarding Greekopoly.........
 

I think that the more PC-Sensitive GC'ers are a pretty defineable group, and would probably agree with you lol. I don't see them posting here for the most part. And while they are generally outspoken, they seem to avoid any type of confrontation in threads that mention race issues.

But I think they would mentally be rooting you on if its any consolation lol. :)

This is a thoughtful post VE.

But you know as well as I do there are also different issues to the perception. Issues such as dress codes, spoken lanuage, and body lanuage that differ from the generally accepted maintstream.

It seems that media and art reinforce these genuine cultural differences to the detriment of the people that embrace them. We can discuss MTV hoodlum culture. The lyrics of rap songs etc . . .

A game such as ghettopoly, good or bad, is a shining reflection of a self-perpetuating cultural exaggeration perpetuated or created through more pervasive mediums such as music, TV, movies and literature.

I can sympthaize though with community leaders that may feel thats its much easier to attack a single board game, company, and owner than tackle the truly difficult social issues. Social issues that no doubt seem so large as be completely daunting.

Don't pick on breathesGelatin, she is good people.

awwww... I love you James! :)