i don't know about anyone else, but i am from AL and i totally consider VA to be Southern....i mean, i've never heard of someone saying, "oh that virginie, it ain't Southern"....now, KY on the other hand. i've heard it been called country a few times, but ppl waiver on it's true Southern-ness. depends where you go, i guess.....central KY (such as lexington or louisville) are really more Northern by nature, the closer you get to the TN line, the more Southern it becomes, and eastern KY....well, we'll just leave it at that. ;)

true classic Southern states in my mind are: Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, parts of Louisiana, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Virginia, and parts of Kentucky (hopefully i didn't leave anyone out i meant to put in there....). While good ol' Texas does have a lot of Southern history and is in the Southern region of the US, to me....it is more South-Western. however, i've only been there once....ppl are just as friendly and all that, but it's just different.

Where is the Mason-Dixon Line? I think its in Delaware Pennsylvania or maryland but im not sure.

You can never leave arkansas out of being a southern state.
Don't get me fired up woman. j/k

I would like to think of myself as a southern lady in training.

for some reason ive ALWAYS been obsessed with southern culture....

I love all things southern including my very southern gentleman boyfriend,
sweet tea,
ladylike manners,
always looking pulled together even in 90 degree weather...

and many more things

i went to georgia on a road trip and ABSOLUTELY fell in love. I plan on moving there after graduation to start my life, im tired of this big city life...
i have a really old aunt that grew up there but i dont know her well... but she is always sending me little notes asking me to visit. I cant wait to finish school :)

Tennessee...we have to teeth, we are "inbred", we are hicks, we are rednecks, we wear no shoes, we marry our cousins, we drink Sweet tea by the gallons, talk like iditots...blah blah blah

Whatever, I am proud to be from TN....

ARKANSAS?!?!? don't get me fired up, boy! ;)

sooo j/k.....all in fun, but i never really thought of Arkansas as Southern.....maybe a lil po-dunk, but that's about it. ;) :) :D

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the mason-dixon line is the boundary line btwn maryland and pennsylvania...it divided the "free states" from the "slave states" during debates over the missouri compromise, or simply used today as the line btwn the North and the South.

I wasn't talking about the eastern side of the state(anything within an hour from the TN & MS border). We don't claim that as Arkansas.[img]www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/realhappy/mdrbig.gif[/img]
Now, that's a po-dunk area!

LMAO.....well, yeah, i guess i wouldn't, either. ;)

i drove through arkansas on my way to Texas to see that stupid ex of mine, and i tell you what....it was the most ridiculous thing of my life! NO radio stations would play anything but easy listening/grocey store music, and when i found something else, it was j.lo and ja rule....then the station would go out like 5 seconds later, and when i picked up another one, "r-u-l-e..." everytime!!!! i thought i was going to die! then on top of that, there was constant construction.....big billboards saying, "please pardon out progress....road contstruction, next 5 million miles"....you'd get through that 5 million miles with a sign saying, "thank you for your patience, enjoy driving the safe roads of arkansas" or something like that....then 5 MILES LATER, another, "please pardon our progress....road construction next 13 million miles".....lol.....it was a mess!

and i didn't really think those simpson's-esque looking power plants existed, but i was wrong.... ;)

not knockin your whole state, dude....just that near TN part. :D

We like to refer to it as "The land of orange barrels and road cones". I can understand, that area sucks hard!

by the way, those were probably stations out of Pine Bluff.

i like to refer to it as "the land of near-death experiences and traumatization".....i had to squeal my lil neon's tires and go into the median b/c that damn construction kinda snuck up on me...lol....i stopped reading the signs, i guess. :p

ok, /hijack of my own dang thread.... :D

more good reasons to be yay about the South....you can have a tan year round and no one thinks anything of it. (not that i ever have a tan these days, but ya know :rolleyes: ;) )

What makes the guys and girls in the south different from the North?

I hold doors for girls, say sir and ma'am often, don't sit unless the other person says to or sits first, etc. You get the picture. I don't often say hello to everyone walking down the street because I don't see that as something genuine.

Now girls in NY dress well. Walk in Manhattan and every girl blows so much money on their wardrobe. Of course in other Northern cities this may not be true. In Chicago some girls can get away with not dressing well because of their youth and looks. Girls in NY can wear skirts. In fact, even better than that they were really sexy pants. The jeans on some girls make your mouth water.

And we have tea in the North. I don't know about other states but in NY, you can schedule tea into your schedule and it's a whole frigging affair with all sorts of food and dressing up. I assume by ice tea you just mean hot tea that's chilled with sugar?? How can it be different?

-Rudey
--As for BBQ's I'll stick to burgers and hot dogs :)

Oh good Lord, Rudey! You misunderstand, and you illustrate my point beautifully in the process. Of course you have teas (aka tea time and hot teas) in the North, but you don't have tea, aka iced tea. The reason that tea is unavailable in the North? Because people there assume that it is just "hot tea that's chilled with sugar." No, no. Hot tea that's chilled with sugar is just crappy colored water. And that is what one is likely to get up North if one orders iced tea.

First off, sugar must, I repeat must be added to the tea while it is brewing or it simply will not taste good at all. Little packets of sugar on the table will not help in the least. And the tea must be brewed properly. In my family we follow the 2-5-2-5 rule: two cups of boiling water with five tea bags and two cups of sugar brewing for five minutes. After it has cooled some, the tea is diluted with cold water to the appropriate strength (yielding about two quarts). It is served over ice, often with lemon or mint.

In a restaurant in the South, tea like this would be prepared in copious amounts every day.

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As for BBQ's I'll stick to burgers and hot dogs :)

Again, you misunderstand. I said barbecue, not BBQs. (Grilling outdoors in the South is called "cooking out" or "grilling out." It is never called "barbecuing/BBQing.") Barbecue is meat that is slow cooked and smoked with an appropriate sauce or rub. In some parts of the South, the meat will be pork, while in others it will be beef. The sauce may be tomato based, vinegar based or even mustard based -- it will not likely be like what the grocery stores have that is called "BBQ sauce." Rubs have a variety of spices. Every region of the South has its own style of barbecue, meaning that when one says "barbecue" in any given area, everyone presumes a particular meat, method of cooking, and style of sauce or rub. A particular set of side dishes -- whether slaw, baked beans, hush puppies, corn bread sticks or whatever -- will also be presumed.

As much as I love hotdogs and hamburgers, they can't hold a candle to good barbecue.

It is not one guy or one girl. It is the majority of guys and the majority of girls.

The majority of girls in the south don't leave the house to get the paper without full make-up. The majority of the girls in the north will head out in the summer without thinking twice about it.

And iced tea has not always been available, at least is Newport where I spent my summers. Some places would offer it just in the summer, others not at all. And forget about getting it pre-sweetened. And yes there is a big difference. (I am particular when it comes to my sweet tea). :p

I spent my summers as a teen without Dr. Pepper as well.

The north and south are different. And the difference make life interesting. I like it! :D

MysticCat,
While I love reading your contributions on this board, I must say.....TWO cups of sugar?? :eek: I hope this is followed up by a good teeth-brushing and TWO visits to the dentist per year! EEEK! :eek: :p
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Okay, I just re-read and saw that there is some additional water added later! You scared me!

Mystic you are giving away ancient southern secrets!!!

But you are also cracking me up. :D

Glad to see someone else is as particular when it comes to iced tea.