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Ch2tf 04-13-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1633429)
I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.

I'd suggest you look into the many threads where mglo's have been discussed. You might find that it goes beyone "respect of all cultures";)

Elephant Walk 04-13-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1633429)
I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.

I agree.

Senusret I 04-13-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1633429)
I've always found the concept of "multicultural" organizations to be pretty insulting. The implication being that when you say you "respect all cultures" is that other organizations don't. That simply isn't true. It's an ignorant and offensive statement.

The irony.

Educate yourself, as Ch2tf has suggested, and you will see that this has been discussed many times in many ways, all of which refute your notions of what MCGLOs are about.

Senusret I 04-13-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1633447)
Honestly, I feel the same way. When I was in college, about a week after I got initated into ADPi, a "Latina" GLO on my campus was recruiting on the campus green by the Student Union. As I passed they tried giving me an info brochure and I politely declined and then the girl went on to say about how they are for Latinas and how they accept hispanic women and whatnot. I told them I had already joined a sorority and politely declined again and kept walking. (I was also wearing a letter shirt that day? So maybe they just didn't see I was already greek?)

My sorority accepted me just fine, but thanks for offering.

A Latina sorority is not the same thing as a Multicultural sorority.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1633456)
The irony.

Educate yourself, as Ch2tf has suggested, and you will see that this has been discussed many times in many ways, all of which refute your notions of what MCGLOs are about.

I do think is should be pointed out that Kevin didn't discuss "what MCGLOs are about". He stated why a statement that I have seen over and over again carries an implication that he doesn't like. The GLOs in question may not have meant to imply that other GLOs don't respect multicultural members, but I have to agree that I have a similar reaction when I read some MCGLO material.
I have far too many sisters of every size, shape and hue to believe that my GLO doesn't value women for those things we share - our intellect, our character, our love for one another - and doesn't discriminate on the basis of our differences.
I'm all for right of association. If you find sisterhood in a GLO that emphasizes your particular culture then good for you. The more, the merrier. But I do wish MCGLOs would emphasize their missions without seeming to have to imply that they and only they offer a multicultural sisterhood or a sisterhood that will embrace the pnm's culture.

Little32 04-13-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1633456)
The irony.

I agree. :cool:

Senusret I 04-13-2008 11:57 AM

If your sorority does not emphasize MULTICULTURALISM in its program, history, mission, selection, etc., then it is not a sisterhood that is MULTICULTURAL by design.

AGAIN, this has been discussed ad nauseum here.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by justanothergirl (Post 1633340)
Theta Nu Xi Multicultural Sorority, Inc. is an amazing sorority. They stand for multiculturalism and that is something very unique. They embrace all cultures. If you are thinking of a sorority, TNX is the best choice. You will never feel awkward around anyone because everyone is different. You will find new friends that become more than sisters--they become family. It will be hard because you must set aside differences, but ahhh I can't begin to tell you what an amazing prize and honor it is to be a part of something so special.


I just wanted to quote this to show an example of what I'm talking about. I find it ironic, since we are dealing in irony, that we are told "everyone is different" . . . but "you must set aside differences". And I like the idea that sisters aren't family.

texas*princess 04-13-2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1633457)
A Latina sorority is not the same thing as a Multicultural sorority.

Yes I realize they are not the same, but it made me feel like they were trying to imply that no other sorority on campus would accept me because I wasn't blonde w/ blue eyes or something when that simply was not the case.

Senusret I 04-13-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1633467)
I just wanted to quote this to show an example of what I'm talking about. I find it ironic, since we are dealing in irony, that we are told "everyone is different" . . . but "you must set aside differences". And I like the idea that sisters aren't family.

It hasn't even been verified that the person you quoted is even a member.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1633466)
If your sorority does not emphasize MULTICULTURALISM in its program, history, mission, selection, etc., then it is not a sisterhood that is MULTICULTURAL by design.

AGAIN, this has been discussed ad nauseum here.

Okay, not multicultural by design. But de facto multicultural. And what is being discussed here are the implications inherent in the way MCGLOs present themselves.
The same members who will whine and moan about their GLO not being respected will not extend the courtesy to others. Maybe they just don't give a damn how they are perceived - that's certainly the vibe I'm picking up - but I'm tired of being dismissed with "go educate yourself" when the question is not one of education.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1633469)
It hasn't even been verified that the person you quoted is even a member.

Is there a verification process on GC that I am not aware of? Because to the best of my knowledge, I have not been verified. If the person I quoted is not a member and is not representing the GLO well, surely a verified member would jump in and correct it.

And no one has addressed the original complaint by Kevin that in the way they market themselves MCGLOs imply that other GLOs are not at all multicultural. If what they are trying to convey is that they are multicultural by design, then they should be specific and say so, imho.

Senusret I 04-13-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1633470)
Okay, not multicultural by design. But de facto multicultural.

No such thing. Diverse, yes. Multicultural, no.

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1633470)
And what is being discussed here are the implications inherent in the way MCGLOs present themselves.
The same members who will whine and moan about their GLO not being respected will not extend the courtesy to others. Maybe they just don't give a damn how they are perceived - that's certainly the vibe I'm picking up - but I'm tired of being dismissed with "go educate yourself" when the question is not one of education.

You have entitlement issues.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 12:11 PM

I've seen the light . . .
 
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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1633473)
No such thing. Diverse, yes. Multicultural, no.

I would respectfully disagree. And I wonder if any of the MCGLOs celebrate my Celtic/Norwegian heritage. (rhetorical question)



You have entitlement issues.

Thank you, Dr. Senusret. Gee, you're right. I'm so ashamed of my entitlement issues - thinking all groups should be entitled to respect. It is so wrong of me to think that it might be possible for a MCGLO to market themselves sucessfully without insulting other greeks on their campus. Yes, I was wrong to think that all GLOs should both expect and extend respect to one another. Silly me - I have learned a valuable lesson, and a great deal about the truth of MCGLOs.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 01:09 PM

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