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Trey_P-I_47 07-30-2008 06:10 PM

Unfortunately they dont usually let active undergrads do what you mentioned in the list, unless its donating money, but for 10 guys to spend $10 each to have an ever lasting memory is something that students can do, its relatively cheap, and cant ever be taken away.

JonoBN41 07-30-2008 06:18 PM

You can get a tattoo for $10?

Trey_P-I_47 07-30-2008 07:04 PM

I was talking about 10 guys pitching in for a brand, but even a tattoo is much more easily attainable then doing some of the things in your list, and im not saing you dont present valid points, but feasability is something that should be considered in this situation.

Im just making the point that peoples decisions shouldnt be looked down on, if its something theyve done for devotion and loyalty and isnt particularly tacky.

Cube TX 07-30-2008 08:44 PM

I was in Las Vegas in 2003 and put my hand down on a bed that someone else had placed a plugged in iron on. The iron fell over and landed on my left hand. I think the entire MGM Grand Hotel & Casino could hear my yell. It probably didn't touch the area of my hand between my thumb and finger for more than a second, but I still remember the pain. There is no way I would ever want to get branded unless I was transformed into a bull or something.

Lots of my Lambda Chi brothers got tattoos while we were active... some had tattoos before entering the fraternity, but it wasn't my thing. My younger brother has several tattoos, but he's also an MMA fighter so he's into self-abuse. Since I was always an accident prone kid and was in several car accidents as an adult I have enough pains and scars to want to put more on myself.

I haven't seen my fraternity little brother, Jimmy, in a few years since he moved back to California. I wonder what he ever did with that shapeless blob on his arm that used to be the letters when he first branded it.

JonoBN41 07-30-2008 08:49 PM

Well, Trey, I was talking about the long term - over your whole life. There are already plenty of activities to keep you busy while you're an active and to show your interest.

Are you saying that 10 brothers want to go in on a brand, and that all 10 are going to be branded? Great.

I'm sure the media will be very sympathetic when ya'll show up at the ER of your local hospital. I'll let you know how it comes across on the Nightly News. It will be good for the Fraternity when the world sees how devoted our brothers are.

Look, bro, I'm trying to talk you out of doing something you'll regret. Do I look down on the idea? Yes I do, and I'll yell it from the treetops. I think it's stupid, dangerous, and counterproductive.

Cube TX 07-30-2008 09:03 PM

True, you can remove a tattoo a lot easier than you can a brand.

In the end, it's your life and body so do whatever you like. I really hope you'll be careful about it though and not just shove a hot piece of metal into your arm like my goofball little brother did after drinking a few too many beers.

Hmmm... If I remember correctly he may have also gotten an infection on his tongue after getting it pierced. This is the same guy who, after giving me a ride to my car after class, ran over both my feet up to the ankles with his full-sized Dodge Ram truck as I was trying to get my book bag out of his truck bed.

Sheesh Jimmy... it's a wonder you're still alive.

Trey_P-I_47 07-30-2008 09:51 PM

Why does everyone act like all brands turn out horrible. I have seen several brands that turned out perfect.

Im not saying we all have to get brands to be in the cool club, I am saying that if a person decides to do so, and researches it correctly, then what is the problem?

How many Omega Psi Phi Brothers have you ever seen with botched brands?

Every Q ive ever seen with a brand looked good.

Not to mention there are several other sources that can provide proper technique. Such as not getting the poker too hot, etc..

Now forcing a brand on someone is repulsive, if they dont want it, leave em alone.

And for gods sake dont be the idiot who tries to make his own brand out of coat hangers and wire.....those are real stupid things to do.

DSTCHAOS 07-30-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1688791)
How many Omega Psi Phi Brothers have you ever seen with botched brands?

Every Q ive ever seen with a brand looked good.

Since you keep bringing up another fraternity to support your own desire to get a brand, I guess this thread doesn't have a lane like I thought it did:

I've seen Omegas and members of other fraternities (and a couple sorority members) with botched brands. Some used custom made branding irons and others used wire hangers.

I have also seen infected brands.

It happens. You probably haven't seen it because you are young and only exposed to a relatively small amount of Omegas and other fraternity members with brands.

If you do it, do it and stop throwing out these examples like it makes a difference. Defend it on its own merit because I wager that your fraternity brothers don't really give a damn about an Omega or their brands.


:)

Cube TX 07-31-2008 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1688791)
And for gods sake dont be the idiot who tries to make his own brand out of coat hangers and wire.....those are real stupid things to do.

Oh, so you've met Jimmy?

Heheheh... that's EXACTLY what my little brother in the fraternity did. It was a long time ago, but it was either that or he did it with lit cigarettes. He wasn't all there.

Trey_P-I_47 07-31-2008 09:57 AM

My point DST, was that there are people out there who have good brands, there is obviously some risk, but if you do some research (I was referring to the Qs as a SOURCE) then you can drastically diminish the chances of screwing it up.


I dont know how much clearer I can be about this. I am in no way, shape, or form saying branding is the best idea or for everyone. I am saying a Brother shouldnt be called an idiot, dumbass, retard, or other hurtful name just because he might choose to show his pride in the form of a Brand, or atleast not unless he does one of the many uninformed ways.

There are ways to do this in a manner as to reduce risk, and if someone is truly serious about this, then it should be well thought out and planned, as well as properly researched.

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1689006)
My point DST, was that there are people out there who have good brands, there is obviously some risk, but if you do some research (I was referring to the Qs as a SOURCE) then you can drastically diminish the chances of screwing it up.


I dont know how much clearer I can be about this. I am in no way, shape, or form saying branding is the best idea or for everyone. I am saying a Brother shouldnt be called an idiot, dumbass, retard, or other hurtful name just because he might choose to show his pride in the form of a Brand, or atleast not unless he does one of the many uninformed ways.

There are ways to do this in a manner as to reduce risk, and if someone is truly serious about this, then it should be well thought out and planned, as well as properly researched.

I wanted you to know that there are Omegas with botched brands, since you hadn't seen any. And continuing to use your limited observations of another organization's informal practice doesn't add as much weight as you think it does. That's not a medical opinion nor does it speak to the place of brands in your fraternity.

If branding isn't the norm for your organization, it is normal for those of you who delve into this to be responded to in this way. There are organizations that sanction members for tattoos and brands. Yours doesn't, yet.

Ottor 246 07-31-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonoBN41 (Post 1688540)
Yeah, nuts is right.

There are many ways for a member to have constant reminders of the oath he took and the path he chose, such as donating money to his chapter or the Educational Foundation, by being active in an area or chapter alumni association, contributing to a newsletter, serving on a house corporation or as High Pi, or as a mentor, or on an alumni advisory board, or volunteering to edit the Cross & Crescent or the website. The list goes on.

There are many things of substance that can really make a difference, and they are constant reminders of what we signed up for, and of a lifetime commitment.

I have nothing against tattoos and I don't even mind if someone is dumb enough to burn himself with a hot poker, but it's a poor substitute for actually doing something meaningful.

Saying "I branded myself to show how devoted I am" is a bunch of nonsense as far as I'm concerned, and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding.

Thank you, Jono, for the best post on this whole thread.

If you want to burn something, why not burn our letters (figuratively speaking, of course) on your heart, and then wake up every morning for the rest of your life resolved to live the values of your membership oath to the very best of your ability? That's devotion.

Tom Earp 07-31-2008 01:48 PM

Thank you DSTCHAOS for for your fine insight on The LXA Thread.:)

Trey I find no matter who wants to get branded then they will do it and that is fine.

So do it and hope for the best. Good luck either way!;)

DSTCHAOS 07-31-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1689102)
Thank you DSTCHAOS for for your fine insight on The LXA Thread.:)

You're welcome and thank YOU for your fine insight on this board. :)

GammaZeta 07-31-2008 05:31 PM

Thank you DST for taking the time to stop by the LXA board to join in a LXA discussion.

We hope you enjoy your time here.


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