I just want to say that I get kinda upset when people talk about "easy majors." There are "hard majors" like Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Math, etc. And there are "easy majors" like English, Education, Political Science, etc. I would love to see a Biology major try to hold his own in ONE of my Political Science classes. Or try to teach a 5 year old how to write their name. S/he would crash and burn in three days. I could never make it as a Biologist, but I also couldn't make it as a teacher. People are called to do certain things, that doesn't mean that one thing is better that another or that one is easier that another.

There are people who are too lazy to give any effort to their work, so they do what is easiest for them. If you look at the way young women are treated in math and science courses, you wouldn't be surprised that most young women choose a career in something NOT science or math related.

I am planning on going into a male dominated field (Law) and I have been discouraged by my own family, several teachers at my high school, my guidence couselor, and my friends. It is hard to make a decision like this and I can understand how some young ladies would be afraid to go against everything they have been exposed to culturally.

So I'm not jumping all over you or anything, but please understand that each major takes talent, effort (to be good at it), and a real calling!

Allie http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif

Well said, Allie.

I was a Creative Writing major and was often dumped on -- people would say "Of Course your G.P.A. is high--you don't have tests"

No I didn't have tests, but I did have to compete for entry into every class. Writing samples submitted and if the prof didn't think it was good enough you didn't get into a class you needed for graduation.

No major is easy. I could no more be a math major than (I am generalizing) a math major could write a 20 page manuscript to gain access to Adv Fiction Writing.

We all choose to do that which we love and, consequently are good at.

And we should all be proud of each other and each other's choices. It takes all different kinds of people with all different kinds of talents to make this world run.


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http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif Which is why I'm glad I have my Sisters! They are always there whenever the going gets tough...they are always, always understanding. I didn't realize how helpful it would be to have a bond with women who were going through the same experiences I am...of course, not all of them are negative. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

It burns me whenever I hear of young women being treated like brainless idiots - especially if they
are blessed with physical beauty as well as brains, and just don't happen to society's schema of the female "nerdy-genious." Why can't a woman be beautiful and smart?

This is what upsets me the most - that a young lady starts out in a major that she wants to pursue, but then is discouraged from it because of social pressure. I don't recall where I read the stats: there was a survey study done which highlighted the fact that surprisingly, most of this pressure comes from home (parents), and then from one's social group(s).

It's heartbreaking: of the many intelligent women that started out in my chemical engineering freshman class, very few stayed with the program. That's the general trend for all engineering programs, and it's true for men as well as women. It seems that women tend to drop out faster and in higher rates, though, because there's usually no system of support.

It has to be tough, Allie, making a decision like that. I've been there - it's my dad who encouraged me to pursue chemical engineering, and it's my dad who's the biggest doubter when it comes to my abilities as an engineer. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif (It doesn't help that that's his profession, too).

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif Which is why I'm glad I have my Sisters! They are always there whenever the going gets tough...they are always, always understanding. I didn't realize how helpful it would be to have a bond with women who were going through the same experiences I am...of course, not all of them are negative. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

It burns me whenever I hear of young women being treated like brainless idiots - especially if they
are blessed with physical beauty as well as brains, and just don't happen to society's schema of the female "nerdy-genious."

This is what upsets me the most - that a young lady starts out in a major that she wants to pursue, but then is discouraged from it because of social pressure. I don't recall where I read the stats: there was a survey study done which highlighted the fact that surprisingly, most of this pressure comes from home (parents), and then from one's social group(s).

It's heartbreaking: of the many intelligent women that started out in my chemical engineering freshman class, very few stayed with the program. That's the general trend for all engineering programs, and it's true for men as well as women. It seems that women tend to drop out faster and in higher rates, though, because there's usually no system of support.

It has to be tough, Allie, making a decision like that. I've been there - it's my dad who encouraged me to pursue chemical engineering, and it's my dad who's the biggest doubter when it comes to my abilities as an engineer. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif (It doesn't help that that's his profession, too).

I don't think there's any such thing as an easy major. All majors require time, dedication, talent, and intelligence. I would say, though, that there's more flexibility of time for liberal arts majors than for engineering or science majors. And I think that's where it can be an advantage to be a liberal arts major - there's more of an opportunity to do more with your time, rather than be resigned to limiting your extra-curricular experiences.

Most of the leaders on my campus are greek - and most of them are in majors that allow them great flexibility of time (usually business). And none of those are majors such as drama, or dance, or other liberal arts majors that require a lot of sustained time dedication. There are only a couple of leaders I can think of who are in time-limiting majors - and usually, their involvement is limited to that one leadership position, besides their affiliation and their major.


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Not that I'm disagreeing with ANYTHING you guys are saying about majors. After all, I'm an Arts major in probably the most difficult program in this country and worked my butt off for every grade i got. But, what does this have to do with LSU rush? I'm thinking this is an issue for another thread.
Sorry if I'm being rude http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif

Leslie

You're right...Barb, is it possible move part of this thread to a new thread??

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The reason this got brought up is because of the fact that sororities at LSU prefer girls in the majors that are traditionally "easy" to keep their cumulative GPA high.

I do agree that every major takes a certain talent to succede at it. Some things that are hard for some are very easy for others. Also on one campus, Business, for example, may be extremely hard, and easy on another. I speak only for my school when I name majors that are considered easy. And at LSU, the majors that are thought to be easy are things such as Kinesiology, Mass Communication, Education and General Studies. You'll, interestingly enough, find a lot of these majors in the sororities. It was just an observation of mine based on my own campus.

I understand how this topic came up. I'm not saying it wasn't a logical extension from the original post. I'm just saying that it's a diviation from it and may be a better discussion if pursued in its own thread. That's all.

Leslie



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My little sister (blood) will go thru this fall at LSU....eeeeek! My mom and her are already freaking out, she does know of a Rush Counselor, its basically the same thing as a Beauty Pageant consultant, they help with clothes, interview, etc...jst no "fanny glue"!

My little sister (blood) will go thru this fall at LSU....eeeeek! My mom and her are already freaking out, she does know of a Rush Counselor, its basically the same thing as a Beauty Pageant consultant, they help with clothes, interview, etc...just no "fanny glue"!

Regarding UT rush, my best friend went through her freshman year. Her Mom appointed herself as her rush consultant. It was unbeleivable. After some serious pre-rush shopping, her Mom coordinated every outfit for every day of rush week, right down to her jewelry and what color toenail polish for each outfil. It was unreal. Every ensamble was placed in it's own garment bag. I guess it was a good idea to plan ahead, my friend didn't have to worry about clothes for rush. Her Mom had practically already dressed her. She ended up pledging PiPhi ("no small feat at UT").

I kinda feel sorry for our Yankee neighbors http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif ---- y'all must think Southerners live in a totally different world! And I suppose that's right. How does that Greek saying go?.... "From the outside looking in, you can understand it. From the inside looking out, you can't explain it." Being a part of the Southern Legacy is unlike anything else, all of my fellow Southern Belles will probably agree with me. It's like the South is a Greek system within itself, where pre-rush will almost always be a bigger fiasco than Rush itself. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif And I am proud to be a part of everything the South stands for. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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As someone who plans to be a Greek Advisor for a living, I am hoping to work at a school where Recruitment is a MAJOR event, so that I can see it for myself!

"I kinda feel sorry for our Yankee neighbors ---- y'all must think Southerners live in a totally different world! And I suppose that's right."


Hey TxTechChiO - you southern belles do live in another world but I would love to try it out sometime. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif - it seems the mother/daughter relationships are very close and you are extremely strong and proud women to go through the process. As a "Connecticut Yankee" - I admire you!

Thanks for the insight also! Sue

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TxTechChiO: What your friend's mom did doesn't sound too far off from what I did when I went through rush. I had a brand new outfit for each day, in a plastic bag. I had shoes to match, a purse to match, I planned out my jewelry and yes, I had matching toenail polish for each outfit. No one pushed me to do this except myself. A lot of good it did me...

My mom wasn't very involved in my rush. She wanted me to see if I liked it and that was it. Her sorority experience was pretty low-key at Loyola, New Orleans. No houses, no crazy formal rush, etc. So she didn't push me when I went through at LSU. On the other hand, I know a girl who's mother forced her to go to pref, and she ended up joining a house that she loves. In a way, I wish I would have been pushed a bit more, but oh well. I'm happy http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

PS: I'm also proud to be a southern girl!

Well, you always hear different things depending on who you ask, but this is the general consensus I've gotten regarding the sororities "personalities": LSU has an awesome greek system, and one is hard pressed to find a really bad house on sorority row. But, like you say, the sororities defenitely have their personalities. Chi O and KD are probably the largest sororities on campus, and have great reputations because they've been around forever! Kappa, Theta, and DG also have awesome reputations at LSU, and they are a little more laid back & known for always having a good time. Let's see...what else?? Umm...I know Tri Delt is pretty good also. I guess I haven't heard much about any others LSU has, but I'm sure they're great if they are on LSU's campus!!

I just finished reading the "Southern Belle Primer"...quality stuff!

I would really like to experience Southern Rush...however, I'm already initiated at a school in the North. Do chapters allow sisters from other chapters to help out during Rush?