mdstudent... I liked everything you said except:

While each GLO is different, there are numerous organizations that have graduate/alumni chapters. In fact, my GLO has more active alumni chapters than collegiate chapters.


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SilverTurtle

Phi Beta Fraternity: National Professional Association for the Creative & Performing Arts

Sorry, sometimes I run off on tangents http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

That's a very good idea UMgirl.

Tonya, I luv ya sweetie! Are you still going to be around in the fall? I want to come out and see you!

AXO Alum going on record to say that once again, mccoyred is right on target!!

Also....very funny in my opinion that I would even remember this --- but you old folks (ie, the "senior" members who distress the young'uns so much) may remember too --- just last year during the 4th of July picnic my neighbor threw for us, I came in to check my email. Lo and behold there was an email telling me to check out the racism thread going on in GC land ---- y'all remember that one? It was like hell on earth for the GC'ers that were participating -- and here we are...one year later -- still trying to beat that dead horse!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif --- OOPS I didn't mean to add that in! [heeheehee]

Also - for posterity's sake -- I just want to remind everyone that colors are black and white --- cultural/ethnicity would be African-American and Caucasian. So if you use one (ie, a color) then also use color to describe the other......if you use cultural/ethnic for one, then use it for the other also. See what fun stuff you can learn in a graduate research course?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

AXO_Alum, once again you have a point. I TRIED to turn this thread around by getting people to post possible RESOLUTIONS to this issue, but alas, only 4 have answered my question, THREE of whom are on the NPHC side of things. **sigh** I'd hate to draw a conclusion based on these meager showings, but the silence is deafening. Apparently those complaining about the "anti-social" behavior of NPHC greeks are not upset enough about it to express as sincere interest in changing the situation as they are in complaining about it. Maybe they honestly feel "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" yet feel it would be the PC thing to do to raise the issue. You know what the sad thing is, we'll be back down this same road in a matter of WEEKS talking about the same thing because no one wanted to make a change now. Just more proof of the saying "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

And I'm gone!



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Kelli
#12 Delta Nu (Savannah State University) Wtr. 1994
MAL, Southern Region

An equal opportunity grumpy person.

I agree that this is a valid suggestion. However, it has been made on thread after thread after thread! I don't see the point in a million threads on the same topic. My one eyeroll about a BEAUTY PAGEANT has started this whole "teach, not roll eyes" mantra... give me a break! If substantial education is taking place, I must have missed it. I don't see why this issue has to be rehashed over and over again... like I said, the same responses can be found in about a million other threads.

If you don't see this issue has to be rehashed, then why do you post responses again and again in it? I learned a lot about how other orgs work by reading these threads, and it is a possibility that something new may come up. If you don't like something you have every right to post your opinion on it, but please move on and allow others to express their opinions too, even if they are "old hat" to you.
Last I checked no one was the ultimate authority on everything, including greek life.

peace out.

You are correct. I should not have said NPC members are not as active after graduation as NPHC members. The truth is I really don't know. I guess I made that statement because I pretty much only see NPHC members in my area (D.C., Maryland, Virginia). I am sure there are many NPC members who are active after graduation.

I must have missed the part where I said I was an ultimate authority on anything. My response was to say a search may be helpful to the poster who originated this thread, as this subject has been discussed over and over and over and over and over and over.... get the point???

Yes MA'AM! I am sorry! I mean no ill will! I promise to carefully write each post from now on so it is not offensive to anyone, just like everyone else here does.

I never said you were the ultimate authority, I am implying no one is, and no one will have all the answers, but everyone has something to contribute if you give them time. And that I think everytime the topic is brought up something new can be gleaned.


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hmm U know what? I'm really sick of hearing about how I shouldve done a search. Well I"M SORRY that I didn't feel like it. Those posts are prolly outdated so I decided to start another one. And I value other peoples opinions, but if it bothers u SOOOO much that there are other threads, then dont read this one! And dont post! What is so hard about that? Sorry to be so...well...bishy, but its really starting to bother me that so many people are putting me down just for a simple question that i asked.

Ok so back to the topic of the post...does anyone else have any positive opinions on why the NPHC organizations exist or any opinions on why you think they shouldn't exist?

I think the NPHC Greeks should exist b/c they give African-American men and women the opportunity to bond in sister/brotherhood while uplifting THEIR community. I think that's wonderful. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif I also think that other ethnic specific Greeks should exist for the same reason. I don't understand why this is such a BIG deal or a BIG problem w/ some folks. Why can't African-Ams or Latino/as or Asians belong in a fraternity/sorority that uplifts THEIR communities? Why is that wrong?

I also don't see it as segregation b/c these groups are focusing their time and energy on helping THEIR communities. Therefore, of course these orgs are going to be pre-dominantly one ethnicity. That's a given! But they do not exclude others who want to also focus their energy on helping that particular ethnicity's community. So I don't see a problem w/ the NPHC or other ethnic greeks. I don't know...it all makes sense to me! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
peace

You didn't "feel" like it?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif -- well heck, sometimes I don't "feel" like coming into work....sometimes I "feel" like the things I have to do here is outdated....I "feel" like no one knows what they are doing.

But guess what -- I DO IT ANYWAY because I don't want to reinvent the wheel -- especially when that wheel fits the 1979 celery green Pinto --- no matter what you do to it....it "ain't" gettin' you nowhere!

Kelli - I meant to comment on your posts since I could see (because I "felt" like seeing...heeheehee) that you were trying to make the author of this post THINK rather than just post stereotypes.

The BGLO's on my campus didn't do much with the WGLO's (not my terms people) -- but hell -- the WGLO'S didn't do much with the BGLO's either. Did that mean that neither of us were doing good things for the community? NOPE - it just meant that we did our own thing and made our own way --- thankfully I have heard that we are doing more together for the campus and community. You want to see something happen, then go make it happen -- don't sit around and moan about it if you aren't going to work for it.