Yea, they are not to attract people, but rather to show that they don't need to meet you or talk to you to know whether you fit their invite list or not. If you do, no need to talk because they already know you or know all about you, if you don't, why waste their time being polite to you? It might get your hopes up, lol.

Dance party, glitter party and piggyback party--they are rude and stupid, but they will continue until the national organizations, alums, Advisory Boards, and actives of these chapters drop the hammer and decide to, you know.....actually meet and greet and offer hospitality to all the PNMs.

Just wondering - are other colleges notorious for parties like this?

I was wondering if the dance party happened yesterday..and now we know. Some things just don't change no matter "who" is watching..ie Nationals. Is this a case of "any" publicity is "good" publicity?
Thet really don't care because even though their return rates are not perfect, the ones that they want to return do.

Well I'm not so much mad as just annoyed. This post was more for any crazy stalkers from Greekrank to know that I'm definitely not bothering myself by getting involved in THAT fight. Also for any GCers to know that I kindly request to not be quoted in the future. Of course I can't stop anybody who chooses to do so, but I hope y'all have better manners than to ignore my request.

I plan to contact the Panhellenic advisor next week and ask why this house is allowed to treat PNMs this way. It's rude.

If I was rushing, I'd automatically rank that house last (esp if I were a PNM checking out this site & knew what to look for). That's unnecessarily mean.

Sorry for my "poor manners" in quoting you.

Good grief. Grow up. Or at least focus on your own recruitment.

I'd be interested in hearing how that goes.

Ugh - so sorry to hear that! I hope she has a wonderful recruitment, in spite of dance party house.

Edited to avoid confusion.
I think there's a difference between quoting within the same message board, and what Ag_Sis is talking about. Am I the only other person here who does think that's rude? Even if it is the internet, at GreekChat we're *usually* a little more civil than the internet at-large. I thought Ag_Sis made a reasonable request in a rather polite way. I'd be pissed if a whole post of mine were lifted and posted on GR, too.

It won't. Everyone who knows ANYTHING about UT rush knows this happens. Panhel can't tell them how to go about choosing their members and undoubtedly Pi Phi headquarters is allowing it to happen because the chapter is strong and stable.

I'm surprised to hear there were members trying to hold conversations. Could they have girls on the bubble? Could they actually need to build a flex list but can't give up the tradition for fear it will appear they're slipping? hmmmmm.

Weird that they would try to talk to PNM's while the dance party is going on.

I hope you're not the only one who thinks this is rude. I sure do, anyway.
I agree. The request was reasonable and respectfully presented. If Ag_Sis had wanted her thoughts shared on that other site, she could have posted them herself. Nanners' decision to post AS's quote was presumptuous. And Nanners' response to AS's request was disrespectful and lacking in class.

Just, never mind, never mind, never mind.

I have a headache.

I am adding Obtuse much? to my lexicon.

Unfortunately UT PanHellenic has really tried to get this chapter to quit doing the dance party. They have met with alumna and active members as well as the chapter advisors. They simply don't care and as someone mentioned up thread, PanHellenic cannot tell them how they can or cannot choose their members.

I am certain that tent talk is rampant..whether good or bad.

Hopefully the majority of the PNM's realize that this is going to happen and list them last when choosing their preferences so they don't have to go back there and be subjected to the rudeness.
edited to add: I know tons of girls who have gone through recruitment and only 1 of them had to return there for the second round..she was clueless..but that's beside the point..I wonder if the girls who attend subsequent rounds are treated as rudely? I would think by the time they get to skit and definitely pref, they are nicer..

I was so proud of the pnm I had prepped for rush a few years ago who dropped THAT HOUSE after the dance party (yes, she had an invite for the next round).