Kiss your pin goodbye
 

I think you could probably count on losing your pin. This is a story about a Tri-Delta at the University of Oklahoma who was asked to return her's for posing for Playboy.

http://www.daily.ou.edu/issues/1996/...processed.html

Re: Kiss your pin goodbye
 

Getting the ACLU involved? Geez. If Tri-Delt's code of conduct is anything like ours (and I'm sure it is), there are very clear-cut definitions of what is and is not acceptable for a sister to do. I'm quite positive that baring yourself for the world to see falls under one of them. :rolleyes:

This Playboy bunny needs to turn in her pin and move on. She made the decision to pose naked, and now she needs to face the consequences. Why is the fact that sororities don't want their members to be portrayed as "easy" such a hard concept for some people to grasp? :confused:

Did the ACLU get involved when Vanessa Williams had to give up her Miss America title? It's the exact same thing. She had to sign a contract saying that she would do nothing to undermine the reputation of the Miss America pageant. She broke that contract when she posed nude. This chick did the same thing, and I'm nearly positive that her signature is on a Tri-Delt national form somewhere promising virtually the same thing that Vanessa Williams did. So, how is it the sorority's fault that her membership is being revoked?

Take responsibility for your actions, people. And the key word is YOUR. :p

I think it's dumb to risk getting kicked out of your sorority, but I'm also all for posing.
lol

So.
Hell.


If you've got it, flaunt it.

:)
Phi sig is too important to me to risk it tho.

Vanessa Williams had not posed for Playboy. She had posed for Penthouse, and the layout was of her in compromising positions with another female. There is a definite difference between Playboy and Penthouse, and there is a definite difference between posing alone in a centerfold and posing in sexual contact with another girl.....and the Penthouse spread was definitely not becoming of Miss America.

Everyone has made some good points. I can't believe the ACLU has been brought in.....there is no way they will win. A sorority is a private organization and is allowed to set standards for membership. It is not a fundamental right of all people to belong to a sorority or fraternity. That girl should definitely just turn in her badge and forget about it.

Actually, Vanessa Williams didn't pose for any magazine. She posed for some "artistic photographs" while she was in college and never signed a waiver for the pictures to be published. I never saw the pictures and never want to so I can't comment on the content.
I seems that posing nude for any magazine would result in more problems than benefits. Why risk it?

Erika and Cream,

So, I guess my memory WAS faulty -- thanks for the clarification. I agree with Erika's other evaluation(s).

She has done pretty well since.

Seriously ladies, why would you want to keep another woman from taking an opportunity? I understand that you think they should pose for a magazine that the uptighter parts of society view as more socially acceptable, and if this is true, I am sure that if you called those girls on the phone and offered them a modeling gig in one of those magazines in lieu of Playboy they would take it.

However, since neither you nor the sorority seems to going out of the way to further the girls modeling careers, perhaps you should not be so judgemental or inclined to pressure them into complying with your world view.

However, I am willing to entertain someone making an argument and proving empirically that posing for a magazine such as playboy is a henious crime. Or is conduct unbecoming a person.

Also, please introduce me to some of the "easy" playboy models. Since that is the appearance you believe they give. I, and I'm sure KaBillymac would love to meet and hang out with them.

Sorry Billy, but yours was the first name that sprung to mind.

hhmmmm
 

what about Maxim?

Once again, the Farrah Fawcett example. On her A & E Biography, they mention several times that she is a Tri-Delta. If the org wanted to disassoiciate themselves with her, I'm sure they would have been on the horn to the network to have them take it out.

Yes I agree with this. If your a famous alum you can get away with posing for playboy. If your not famous I bet the sorority would kick them out.

Maxim is not the same issue, it's like a male Cosmo.

To paraphrase my, brother Daily Show host Jon Sturart "Maxim is porn for men to timid to buy porn."

Word.

Personally, Maxim makes me ill. I think it is really insulting to men, honestly. The writing is at the level of a 16 year old! It assumes that all men are desperately horny morons who haven't gotten beyond constant partying and debauchery and have to find ways to con women into sleeping with them. And I think that some of the pictorials, while not nude, are more "degrading" to women than most of what I have seen in Playboy, particularly because of some of the commentary. (On the same note I must say that a lot of what I see in Cosmo also pisses me off....not all women are sexual predators dating six different guys at once!!!!)

I really enjoy reading Playboy. It is FAR more sophisticated than Maxim. Actually, I just sent in for a subscription for me and Brent. I think the articles are great, and I enjoy perusing the pictorials most of the time, though I think Hef needs to get a life and realize that not everyone is enchanted by his 7 identical girlfriends. We've bought stuff from Playboy.Com and I even have a Playboy t-shirt!!!! It's gotten me in trouble a few times due to the reactions that I get from guys when I wear it, but I don't care.

I definitely agree with the assessment that celebrities seem to be exempt from the disapproval of their chapters. I mean, what sorority would want to be the ones to say "Yeah we booted Farrah Fawcett!!!" ??? My personal feeling is that a girl should not have to forfeit her pin as long as she does not display her letters in association with the spread and does not present the chapter in a negative light. If she is discreet about it there shouldn't be a problem.....BUT I can also see the other point of view. There are a lot of people who find nude photos of any kind to be offensive and inappropriate, and although I disagree I have to respect their viewpoint. But James and Billy, you guys can come over and watch some Playboy videos with me, ok?:p

HMM I wonder what it is like to be beautiful and be asked to pose nude. Guess I'll never know.

Erika, when did you ever start believing the above statement was not true? That's a pretty accurate description of the male condition. Not pretty but accurate.

Then we get tired of the constant rejection. No matter how smooth you are you still get turned down more often than you actually score. After we get tired, we get married. Of course the bug will often bite us again . . .

As for the rest, I'll be sure to come over and watch some playboy Videos when I hit LA later this year.

Oh, and I get your point of some people being uncomfy with the whole nude thing. But it would be nice if they had a more live and let live attitude instead of trying to force their mores onto the rest of us. How tedious and insulting to our intellegence.