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AOII Angel 02-03-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2123176)
The trouble is, where are they going to get their funding next year? Once I get my 2012 budget figured out (now that I just got my merit raise information), I'm going to go set up a monthly donation since those are a more reliable source of funding for groups like PP.

Also, $500,000.00 of that came from two men. Women's health isn't just something the wimminz are worried about. :)

Amazingly, one donation came from an oil man and his wife in Texas. Not your expected PP donor. Thanks to him and his wife and to Mayor Bloomberg for making sure women's health services will go uninterrupted!

As for some people's assertion that this grant from SGK isn't much so it's not a big deal, it is more than the dollar amount. PP has been under constant attack all year. The goal is to remove all public support so they have to survive on private donations. BUT, the people opposed to PP don't want them to survive. The best was to dry up their private donations is to get their major grants from large "reputable" foundations to go away. SGK refusing to give anymore grant money to PP was meant to scare away other foundations. "If SGK won't give PP grants, maybe we shouldn't either." Slowly, the support for PP would dry up and poof, no more PP. Too bad. Thank goodness the public saw this ploy for what it was, playing politics with women's lives.

agzg 02-03-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2123180)
As for some people's assertion that this grant from SGK isn't much so it's not a big deal, it is more than the dollar amount. PP has been under constant attack all year. The goal is to remove all public support so they have to survive on private donations. BUT, the people opposed to PP don't want them to survive. The best was to dry up their private donations is to get their major grants from large "reputable" foundations to go away. SGK refusing to give anymore grant money to PP was meant to scare away other foundations. "If SGK won't give PP grants, maybe we shouldn't either." Slowly, the support for PP would dry up and poof, no more PP. Too bad. Thank goodness the public saw this ploy for what it was, playing politics with women's lives.

I totally agree.

It's been backfiring so far. At some point people need to say "enough is enough with this" and start fighting for the folks who are actually affected by legislation like this. Until there's a national healthcare plan and everyone has access, groups like PP and free clinics need to exist.

33girl 02-03-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 2123033)
SGK nationally, as well as the local affiliates, must abide by a very strict limit of 75% of funds raised must go directly to research, education, screening or treatment.

I think the issue is that "education" can be twisted in all sorts of ways, like into a pink thong with boobs on it.

Munchkin03 02-03-2012 12:35 PM

Well, well, well.

http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-ne...ed-parenthood/

This doesn't change my view on Komen--still not donating and still maintaining my donations to PP. Apparently PP received $1MM in donations since SGK's decision was announced. Hopefully the donations will keep up!

33girl 02-03-2012 12:42 PM

LOL. At least if you're going to make a decision, have the balls to stick to it and face the fallout. This may be even more repugnant than them defunding PP in the first place.

Munchkin03 02-03-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2123211)
LOL. At least if you're going to make a decision, have the balls to stick to it and face the fallout. This may be even more repugnant than them defunding PP in the first place.

They pretty much ruined their brand in 48 hours. Even though I didn't love Komen's "pinkwashing" and sexualization of breast cancer to the exclusion of other cancers, I didn't have a strong opinion of them. Now I do.

pbear19 02-03-2012 01:22 PM

By reversing their decision now and claiming it wasn't about politics, all they've done is proven that they are an organization happy to bend in whatever direction the political wind blows. I won't deny that I'm happy that the real victims in this mess, the women who might not have received services, are not to be affected. But I cannot help but think that this will cause irreparable harm to SGK, and shows an inherent weakness in their organization. I live in a *very* Catholic area, and I know of a lot of people who donated to SGK over the past couple days in support of their decision. Now they are all bitter and angry. PP supporters won't soon forget, and PP haters won't soon forget now, either.

Munchkin03 02-03-2012 04:28 PM

Americans United for Life made a huge deal yesterday about how they stood by Komen and now they have a team for RFTC. Now...? No word about the new decision.

Maybe they're in denial?

AOII Angel 02-03-2012 05:41 PM

It all boils down to a very poorly planned attack. They under estimated the support for PP when they made this obviously political decision and damaged their own organization. They have no one else to blame but themselves. Millions of women trusted them with their hard work and donations and found out the hard way that the leaders of the organization didn't think/believe/operate the way every one thought they did or should.

psusue 02-04-2012 06:39 PM

A recent response video from one breast cancer patient about what breast cancer is, and is not.

VandalSquirrel 02-05-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2123176)
The trouble is, where are they going to get their funding next year? Once I get my 2012 budget figured out (now that I just got my merit raise information), I'm going to go set up a monthly donation since those are a more reliable source of funding for groups like PP.

Also, $500,000.00 of that came from two men. Women's health isn't just something the wimminz are worried about. :)

I'm hoping that the PP budget will be positively affected come August 1st when women won't have to go there for birth control since their health plans not only have to cover it, but it will be free. So many women with insurance still went to PP for birth control if their insurance didn't cover their chosen method, covered their method but the co-pay was ridiculous, or didn't cover it at all.

AGDee 02-06-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2123176)
The trouble is, where are they going to get their funding next year? Once I get my 2012 budget figured out (now that I just got my merit raise information), I'm going to go set up a monthly donation since those are a more reliable source of funding for groups like PP.

Also, $500,000.00 of that came from two men. Women's health isn't just something the wimminz are worried about. :)

I heard another figure yesterday of $3,000,000 in donations between Tuesday and Friday for PP.

33girl 02-06-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 2123573)
I'm hoping that the PP budget will be positively affected come August 1st when women won't have to go there for birth control since their health plans not only have to cover it, but it will be free. So many women with insurance still went to PP for birth control if their insurance didn't cover their chosen method, covered their method but the co-pay was ridiculous, or didn't cover it at all.

Insurance plan costs have been going up and many people just can't afford it.

Also, when I went to PP, the insurance I was on would have covered it...but I really didn't want Mom33 and Dad33 to get the EOB in the mail. :)

DeltaBetaBaby 02-06-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 2123573)
I'm hoping that the PP budget will be positively affected come August 1st when women won't have to go there for birth control since their health plans not only have to cover it, but it will be free. So many women with insurance still went to PP for birth control if their insurance didn't cover their chosen method, covered their method but the co-pay was ridiculous, or didn't cover it at all.

My co-pay is ridiculous, so I order from Canada. It's absurd that this country allows women to go without healthcare, and that there is such a huge need for PP, but it is what it is.

AGDee 02-06-2012 06:57 PM

Yet insurance pays for Viagra...


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