Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2108811)

As far as chapters who aren't straight up with their pledges - i.e. don't tell them they're on probation and may be closed any minute - they deserve to just have everyone dump them and never speak to them again, and the national organization should be compelled to release them and let them initiate elsewhere. A national org that doesn't do that (or that allows a chapter to initiate its class when they've already made the decision to close the chapter) is full of shitheads. Sorry to be blunt, but it's the truth.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2108820)

I agree with this. Everyone says stuff like "once you initiate into an NPC, you can never initiate elsewhere". I'd like to think that, at some point, there have been exceptions made, for exactly this reason.

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2108830)

And really, how much of your ritual do you remember after your own initiation? There's so much going on, what with the cat suits and hovercrafts, that it's pretty hard to remember even the important parts. I think you wouldn't be too much of a risk of sharing secrets, accurately anyway. I would be supportive of these highly unusual circumstances but of course there would have to be a REALLY good reason.

Originally Posted by PiAlphaGammaFM (Post 2109002)

I agree... it really wasnt the new members fault. We are only a local. but im sure my sisters would be willing to accept the new class into our sisterhood in this situation. Not that it will ever come up since we dont have any NPC orgs here and I doubt we ever will.

Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2109007)

ahhhhh...No.

Disagree, respectfully.

Some policies, there is no wiggle room. This is, IMO, one of them. If you are initiated, you are initiated. You'll be granted alumnae status if a chapter closes for low membership. For Risk Management reasons - that's another story entirely, and up to each individual GLO's policies.

I'd be willing to wager that the OP wasn't paying close attention to the chapter's status, because in my experience there is typically a LOT of talk prior to a chapter's closure. It's really hard to hide this sort of thing, people. Especially today, where it takes all of 14 seconds for something to hit the Internet and be broadcast to hell and back for anyone and everyone to read.

As for not remembering initiation, well...I have to disagree with that as well. The chapter I advise conducts a review of Initiation immediately after (within a day), as well as weekly Ritual presentations during Chapter. We often have alumnae present at the Initiation review. We do our utmost to keep Ritual at the forefront, in a positive light, as a guiding principle for chapter operations, not as a "club" or "punishment." I speak with other advisors from other chapters at my campus and they do similar activities with their new initiates.

Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2109007)

ahhhhh...No.

Disagree, respectfully.

Some policies, there is no wiggle room. This is, IMO, one of them. If you are initiated, you are initiated. You'll be granted alumnae status if a chapter closes for low membership. For Risk Management reasons - that's another story entirely, and up to each individual GLO's policies.

I'd be willing to wager that the OP wasn't paying close attention to the chapter's status, because in my experience there is typically a LOT of talk prior to a chapter's closure. It's really hard to hide this sort of thing, people. Especially today, where it takes all of 14 seconds for something to hit the Internet and be broadcast to hell and back for anyone and everyone to read.

As for not remembering initiation, well...I have to disagree with that as well. The chapter I advise conducts a review of Initiation immediately after (within a day), as well as weekly Ritual presentations during Chapter. We often have alumnae present at the Initiation review. We do our utmost to keep Ritual at the forefront, in a positive light, as a guiding principle for chapter operations, not as a "club" or "punishment." I speak with other advisors from other chapters at my campus and they do similar activities with their new initiates.

Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2109009)

^^^ no point engaging in speculation, is there? I'm responding to other peoples' posts re: NPC policy on "once initiated, never another initiation into an NPC organization".

ETA: go back and read the OP's first post in this thread. She states she was initiated, and was an active member "less than 48 hours" and has investigated other chapters of her organization that are in the state where she's currently attending school.

Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2109100)

OK, folks, we've got a week old thread with 4 pages of posts and the OP hasn't said a peep since her first post. What does that tell us? And, she said the only events she attended were Bid Night, Initiation and Founders Day. What the heck happened between Bid Night and Initiation??????? Just saying....