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ASTalumna06 02-16-2011 12:18 AM

I've only seen it happen once or twice, but I HATE when I see the crown, book, stars and anchor on our coat-of-arms in the wrong place! How it should be:

http://alphatau.yolasite.com/resourc...bols_crest.png

And our badge is not a "weird" or "retarded" star ... yes, someone actually said that to me.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2427/...ea601db9fd.jpg

If you don't know what it is (and you shouldn't if you're not in the sorority), and you can't comment intelligently about it, don't say anything at all. K thanks :D

XAntoftheSkyX 02-16-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 2030737)
One of my pet peeves is when printed depictions of our badge have a non-gold center. The chi is underneath the delta, why wouldn't you show it through the hole?

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ptwimg.jpg

aephi alum 02-16-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 2030737)
So hard, but I've gotten it down to a science. It boggles my mind that some badges aren't supposed to be "straight."

I've kind of envied members of those GLOs whose badges aren't supposed to be straight. If you're, say, a Pi Phi, it doesn't matter at what precise angle you pin your badge as long as the arrow is pointing up. If you're an AEPhi, your badge has to be horizontal. "OK, let me pin my badge onto this silk blouse... crap, not quite horizontal... OK, let me re-pin it... crap, still not quite right... <several attempts later> OK, finally right, but the 'left chest' area of my blouse now looks like Swiss cheese. I hope the dry cleaner can do something about that."

As for colors, we use green and white, but we don't specify a particular shade of green - although I think the white would have to be pure white. (#FFFFFF ;) )

tld221 02-16-2011 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 2030787)
I've kind of envied members of those GLOs whose badges aren't supposed to be straight. If you're, say, a Pi Phi, it doesn't matter at what precise angle you pin your badge as long as the arrow is pointing up. If you're an AEPhi, your badge has to be horizontal. "OK, let me pin my badge onto this silk blouse... crap, not quite horizontal... OK, let me re-pin it... crap, still not quite right... <several attempts later> OK, finally right, but the 'left chest' area of my blouse now looks like Swiss cheese. I hope the dry cleaner can do something about that."

As for colors, we use green and white, but we don't specify a particular shade of green - although I think the white would have to be pure white. (#FFFFFF ;) )

Not that i could tell you what your colors are, but i always understood AEPhi's green to be like emerald/forest green. i cant imagine AEPhi in, say, lime green and #ffffff

Smile_Awhile 02-16-2011 01:38 AM

Also a note on colors- We are not just any red and green. We are scarlet and olive green. Not forest, not kelly- olive. But... we do kind of play around with that one...

ASTalumna06 02-16-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 2030787)
As for colors, we use green and white, but we don't specify a particular shade of green - although I think the white would have to be pure white. (#FFFFFF ;) )

I find this interesting. Usually with sororities at least, it seems as though they're very specific with their colors.. Mode, azure blue, pearl white, buff..

AST is specifically emerald green and gold. I can't imagine using a brighter green, and it probably wouldn't look as nice with gold. As tld221 pointed out, I couldn't picture AEPhi using a light green, either.

What other groups aren't particular about the shades of their colors?

CutiePie2000 02-16-2011 03:33 AM

I posted this in the ancient times of 2005 and I will post it again now.
Even though I'm not an AGD, I always thought this was rather interesting.....

Alpha Gamma Delta has 2 versions of its crest or "Armorial Bearings"....

The American version:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...xOdZsKHQD-LfOQ

The Canadian version:
http://www.zetachi.net/images/can8dn.gif

"Alpha Gamma Delta chapters in Canada have a slight variation in the design of the Armorial Bearings. Chapters in Canada use the Coat of Arms without the helmet. Rulings of the British government do not permit anyone except the sovereign to bear the Royal Helmet".

And since Canada is still part of the British Empire, hence the different crest.

Alumiyum 02-16-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2030815)
I find this interesting. Usually with sororities at least, it seems as though they're very specific with their colors.. Mode, azure blue, pearl white, buff..

AST is specifically emerald green and gold. I can't imagine using a brighter green, and it probably wouldn't look as nice with gold. As tld221 pointed out, I couldn't picture AEPhi using a light green, either.

What other groups aren't particular about the shades of their colors?

I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used. Though just about everything I own that uses our colors is crayola red, a forest green, and bright yellow. So hard to find something that uses actual buff. :(

agzg 02-16-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2030849)
I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used. Though just about everything I own that uses our colors is crayola red, a forest green, and bright yellow. So hard to find something that uses actual buff. :(

Well, it's different when you're getting stuff straight from IHQ (paperwork, etc.) since we as mere mortals don't have access to the same resources. Most of the stuff I've noticed coming from IHQ does indeedy use more of a "buff" color rather than yellow. The colors on the website use buff. It's just hard to find that color in real life without it looking off.

For all three colors, I'm sure they use their own standard color codes to keep everything consistent online/in print - whether that's RGB, CYMK, or HSI I have no idea.

Another example, I've never, not once in my life, seen a buff rose in person.

MysticCat 02-16-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2030657)
As you can see, there are 4 little hickydoos (I don't know what else to call them) at the top of the crest and under the Phoenix

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Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 2030698)
It's called a wreath or sometimes tortilly. :p

Actually, it's called a wreath or a torse, with each of the hickydoos being a knot or a twist. It's supposed to look like two pieces of cloth -- tradiitionally one in the main tincture (color) of the field of the shield and one in the main metal (silver [white] or gold [yellow], which are not considered colors) twisted together. It's what would have held the knight's crest on his helmet. (Note: heraldically speaking, the crest is only what is above the torse -- in ASA's case, the crown -- not the entire design.) Customarily, there are six twists, which may explain why some who don't know better get ASA's wrong.

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2030849)
I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used.(

I think of buff as a specific shade that doesn't need further description.

Meanwhile, since erroneous coats of arms have been brought up, as I mentioned in the thread on arms and other symbols, one sometimes sees this for ours:
http://www.clubs.psu.edu/up/sinfonia...ages/crest.gif
There shouldn't be a ribbon with "PHI MU ALPHA" on top. It should look like this:
http://www.enotes.com/w/images/f/fc/...foniaCrest.png

angels&angles 02-16-2011 12:10 PM

Let's see, as someone pointed out the Pi Phi badge is at an angle but it doesn't matter WHAT angle, as long as it is pointing up. There is a directional component, but I can never remember it as I am slightly dyslexic and directionally challenged.

Our colors are wine and silver blue, which gives some leeway. But it's not RED, and it's definitely not PINK!

33girl 02-16-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2030858)
Actually, it's called a wreath or a torse, with each of the hickydoos being a knot or a twist. It's supposed to look like two pieces of cloth -- tradiitionally one in the main tincture (color) of the field of the shield and one in the main metal (silver [white] or gold [yellow], which are not considered colors) twisted together. It's what would have held the knight's crest on his helmet. (Note: heraldically speaking, the crest is only what is above the torse -- in ASA's case, the crown -- not the entire design.) Customarily, there are six twists, which may explain why some who don't know better get ASA's wrong.

Thanks for explaining that. It always seemed like such a random thing to futz up.

goldendelta 02-16-2011 02:59 PM

While this is not technically a symbol it always annoys me when I see Tri-Delta. There's no hyphen in Tri Delta!

AGD1978 02-16-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 2030827)
I posted this in the ancient times of 2005 and I will post it again now.
Even though I'm not an AGD, I always thought this was rather interesting.....

Alpha Gamma Delta has 2 versions of its crest or "Armorial Bearings"....

The American version:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...xOdZsKHQD-LfOQ

The Canadian version:
http://www.zetachi.net/images/can8dn.gif

"Alpha Gamma Delta chapters in Canada have a slight variation in the design of the Armorial Bearings. Chapters in Canada use the Coat of Arms without the helmet. Rulings of the British government do not permit anyone except the sovereign to bear the Royal Helmet".

And since Canada is still part of the British Empire, hence the different crest.


I had totally forgotten that bit of info! I learned it when I was a pledge (does that date me?) but it had slipped my mind. Thanks for the reminder!

aephi alum 02-16-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 2030807)
Not that i could tell you what your colors are, but i always understood AEPhi's green to be like emerald/forest green. i cant imagine AEPhi in, say, lime green and #ffffff

True :)

What I was trying to say is that (AFAIK) we don't have a specific designation like "olive green" or CMYK or hex codes for a specific shade of green. So long as it's in the mid-green range - not too light and not too much yellow or blue - it's ok.


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