American History X is one of those movies I'm not interested in watching again either. And I know why you were editing, i just ended up replying to you in multiple places instead :p

LOL. I see your point, Drolefille.

I used to slam Tyler Perry plays and movies because they were reminiscent of the "Chittlin' Circuit" and the confining of Black entertainers to "Black movies," etc. My perspective was an historical and social one and I made good arguments...until people realized that I hadn't actually seen any of his plays and movies. LOL. I was protesting them and cringed when people mentioned them, but that holds no weight when I can't speak beyond generalities on the matter.

Then I got over myself and watched some of his plays and movies years ago. I like some of his plays and LOVE some of his movies. I'm sure some GCers know which TP movies I'm obsessed with and watch nonstop. This shaped my perspective and let me know that it isn't what I assumed that it was. That doesn't change the historical and social perspective I had previously expressed but it highlighted how Tyler Perry (and even the original "Chittlin Circuit") holds a liberating interpretation if we get beyond the discriminatory and restrictive connotations. The discriminatory and restrictive connotations don't disappear but they are placed within another context. I no longer believe that Black folks who like TP are overall clueless and ignorant about the reality of Blackness. :p

ETA: American History X is one of my favs. I own the video. I guess Drolefille and I wouldn't get along during movie nights. LOL.


Damn, this thread was hijacked. :)

This sounds like when we first heard about the tv show Greek and everyone was all "OMG this is going to be AWFUL" and it turned out that a lot of people really liked it and that it had some merit as far as Greek-themed media was concerned.

I liked AHX, I just don't want to watch it again!
I really know anything about TP except that he puts his name on everything he's in :p I just think there's a difference between complaining about the movie itself and how it is talked about. Just like I think Twilight is stupid (and I've read 3.2 of those books as some sort of masochistic test) but it's ok to like it. When people talk about how emosparklepire boy is the most perfect guy ever is when I say something. I'm sure I'd learn more about GWTW itself if I watched it, but I don't feel like I should have to subject myself to it to know what's problematic about the idealization of the era.

But I'm also pretty sure I'm repeating myself multiple times now but that's because the Cylons are distracting me.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the OP to return with "look beyotches, you either care about O'Hara's dress needing repair or you don't. If you don't, please go away."

LOL :p

RE: Twilight...as a college graduate and adult I realize I shouldn't love the Twilight books. The writing is horrible, and the concept is stupid, but I'm hooked. Love. On the other hand sparklefairies are not real and neither is Edward Cullen. Were he real I would find him insufferably obnoxious. Thank you for defending the world against fictional character obsession. :)

Unless it's Harry Potter. Then it's ok. ;)

It's my life's work. Or something. At least for now ;)

I have my fluff fiction pleasures. I read anything Mercedes Lackey writes and there is little she writes that is worthy of notice. But then I don't go around talking about how much better the world would be if we soulbonded with avatars of a deity in the body of large white horses who can speak telepathically and do magic.
But wouldn't it be cool?

Good. I've had a very serious discussion with certain parties regarding the fact that Edward Cullen is a figment of Stephanie Meyer's imagination and will therefore never crawl through their bedroom windows, however fervently they might wish it to be so.

Is anyone else creeped out by the fact he crawls in a girl's window and watches her sleep all night? Jesus, get a hobby.

I read a lot of biographies, mostly about the Tudor family for some reason. I don't know when I got started on that (and now I'm hooked, because there are so many versions of so many events that I feel compelled to read books from every viewpoint), but I figure that can somehow help my parents feel like they didn't waste money sending me to college when I come home to visit with a Twilight book in my bag.

He's an emotionally abusive, controlling stalker of a boyfriend. *cough* See I really shouldn't get started.

Yeah I try to balance my reading too, but for my own sake.;)

Glad someone else agrees with me...hell no would a guy get away with pulling the things fictional sparklesfairy does.

Oh, you've got to be kidding, aren't you? GWTW is almost always on the AFI's top ten lists of best movies, and I think any memorabilia from beloved movies is interesting.

My own opinion of GWTW is different from a lot of others. I see a heroine who went from pampered princess to empowered woman against the odds. I've seen it with my cousin, and if she's comfortable with it, so am I.

BTW, I usually have at least two books being read; one fiction, one nonfiction. But with moving, business dealings, a sick puppy, and a badly twisted ankle, I've been a slacker!