The context wasn't complimentary.

Strictly? The part of my post that you quoted stated "country of origin, race and ethnicity, AND socioeconomic status."

The very nature of trends is that there are exceptions. The trends are more important to me for the purpose of this discussion because the illegal immigration debate confuses trends with exceptions, as evidenced by the following:


LOL. I hope you know that you have proven my points. So, you just don't LIKE them or something? You've had enough of being treated like a negroid by white folks (in general) and will be darned if those newbies come here illegally and treat you like a negroid? Do you really give a darn about how they perceive you as a Black American? Really? Illegal immigrants aren't the only people here who don't speak the language and don't want to assimilate or socialize with you. Let the record show that assimilating and socializing with Black people has always been the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to living in the America. Surely your experience as a Black American has given you thicker skin than to care about such things.

I'm more awake now, so I guess I have more to say. :p


I just don't think many people, white, Black, brown, are going to see this issue in a social context. You and I can talk about it all day, but I can almost promise that the people in Arizona are not thinking about it in some socioeconomic, racial. ethnic context. Those are the people you need to convince.

This argument style is used a lot though. Both ways. "They are keeping drugs in our community", "They are keeping the quality of our schools down". Yes, "they" may be, but we also have a responsibility to ourselves too that we must fulfill.

No, they were just wrong and underestimated the Americans desire.

Right, they are important to you. But, to the people of Arizona, they are not. They are the one who are going to vote and support this law.

And, quite frankly, people don't want to discuss. They want action. They want something done, however they perceive it.


Oh on the contrary. I've dated them, "or something".;)

Yes, I do, because their perception of Black Americans usually come from stereotypes that they have seen on TV - rap music, sagging pants, "baby mama drama". There is more to Black culture and history in this country than what they get. So yeah, it does bother me.

Yes, I agree.

The Kardashians don't seem to think so!

Oh yes, I do have thick skin. And I do care about "such things". I care about my community and who is coming into it and what they are doing. I care about my state and my country because my ancestors have had an (unsung) influence in shaping both. I care very much. I know who I am and where I come from. I care.

Well either way a judge just blocked the controversial parts of the law.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100728/...na_immigration

PHOENIX – A judge has blocked the most controversial sections of Arizona's new immigration law from taking effect Thursday, handing a major legal victory to opponents of the crackdown.
The law will still take effect Thursday, but without many of the provisions that angered opponents — including sections that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws. The judge also put on hold a part of the law that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times, and made it illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places.
U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton put those controversial sections on hold until the courts resolve the issues.
Opponents say the law will lead to racial profiling and is trumped by federal immigration law.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The sheriff of the most populous county in Arizona says he's "not going to put up with any civil disobedience" when the state's new immigration law takes effect.
Maricopa Sheriff Joe Arpaio says that if protesters want to block his jail, he'll put them in it.
The Arizona law, which takes effect Thursday, requires officers enforcing other laws to check a person's immigration status if they suspect the person is in the country illegally.
Arpaio told ABC's "Good Morning America" he doesn't know "what the big hype is."
He says it's "a crime to be here illegally and everyone should enforce" the law.

Sigmadiva...what? LOL.

That's really good, thanks for the link.

rant/

Of course, one judge blocking it doesn't make that ruling final. It also doesn't mean that the controversial parts of the law won't be informally enacted. Also, that link that I posted about people sending lists of illegal (and legal) immigrants means that the ball is already rolling.

/rant