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Psi U MC Vito 06-15-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1943396)

So now my question to the sports officianados (totally spelled that word wrong), how would this change the football season?

Might be talking out of my ass, but I thought that the change wouldn't happen until 2012.

WaterChild 06-15-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1943414)
Might be talking out of my ass, but I thought that the change wouldn't happen until 2012.

I know that the change will officially happen July 1, 2011 for Boise State, and I assume that it will be the same for everyone else switching conferences as well.

ISUKappa 06-16-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1943396)
That's because my beloved Sun Devils have kind of, hmm, sucked the last couple of years in football. U of A won the territorial cup! That sucks!!!!!

LOL to your daughter. That made me smile.

So now the Pac-10 has become the Pac-11 (that just sounds odd) and it could become the Pac-16 (which sounds odder).

So now my question to the sports officianados (totally spelled that word wrong), how would this change the football season? I looked online and ASU already has their football season planned. With the adding of Colorado to the Pac-10, if ASU isn't scheduled to play them, don't they have to be scheduled to play them? Then who (well what team) would they get "rid of" to compensate? And what if it becomes the Pac-16 are teams expected to rearrange their seasons to compensate for the new schools in the Pac-10? Or would this be something that would be started next season?

What about the bowl games? Wouldn't the dissolution of a conference change the bowl games? Right now the Pac-10 (if I remember correctly) does the Holiday Bowl, a Pac-10 team can make the Insight Bowl. I don't think they can make Fiesta Bowl anymore (they could at one point). Those are the only ones I can remember (probably because two of the three are done in AZ).

I think the conference shakeup is pretty much done for this round, with the exception of Utah potentially joining the Pac-10 at some point in the next two years.

Bowl tie-ins did some switching around last year. I'm guessing, barring some huge incident, that they will stay the same.

Current Pac-10 tie-ins:
2010-2013:

* #1 Bowl Championship Series. The Pac-10 champion gains an automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Rose Bowl
* #2 The Alamo Bowl receives the second choice of Pac-10 teams.
* #3 The Holiday Bowl receives the third choice of Pac-10 teams.
* #4 The Sun Bowl receives the fourth choice of Pac-10 teams.
* #5 The Las Vegas Bowl receives the fifth choice of Pac-10 taams
* #6 The Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl receives the sixth choice of Pac-10 teams.

The Pac-10 might be able to add another bowl tie-in when contracts are up due to being 12 teams. The Big XII will probably lose one.

As far as scheduling goes, you won't play everyone in your conference every year. You'll play the teams in your division every year and then alternate teams from the other division every two years. This being the final year of the Big XII in its current format (Nebraska is moving to the Big 10 at the start of the 2011 season; Colorado has said they're staying until 2012, but that might change since Neb is leaving "early") Iowa State's conference schedule looks like this -- (N) designates a team from the North division, (S) designates a team from the South division:

Sat, Sep 18 Kansas State (N) at Kansas City, Mo.
Sat, Oct 02 Texas Tech (S) Ames, Iowa
Sat, Oct 16 Oklahoma (S) at Norman, Okla.
Sat, Oct 23 Texas (S) at Austin, Texas
Sat, Oct 30 Kansas (N) Ames, Iowa
Sat, Nov 06 Nebraska (N) Ames, Iowa
Sat, Nov 13 Colorado (N) at Boulder, Colo.
Sat, Nov 20 Missouri (N) Ames, Iowa

Next year, if the conference wasn't changing, we'd play the same three teams from the South, but switch locations. Then the year after that we'd play Texas A&M, OkState and Bayor and have a reprieve of Texas, OK and Tech for two years. The Pac-12 might have a slightly different type of schedule, but that's what the Big XII did.

Okay, now that I actually re-read your question, you were asking something completely different. Most likely the schedules will get revamped once the Pac-10(12?) is final. Some non-conference games will be bumped or switched and the conference games will be modified to suit the new divisions/teams.

VandalSquirrel 06-16-2010 03:25 PM

I wish Bronco Junior College would go to the Mountain West in 2010, not 2011. I am so tired of hearing about them and no one likes their smurf turf. I am looking forward to them losing a few games in the future. The rest of us will stay in the WAC getting jobs and running the state.

See ya donkey asses!

knight_shadow 06-16-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1943670)
I wish Bronco Junoir College would go to the Mountain West in 2010, not 2011. I am so tired of hearing about them and no one likes their smurf turf.

*snorts*

VandalSquirrel 06-16-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1943672)
*snorts*

Seriously, it was so offensive to watch the Humanitarian Bowl with that horrible blue monstrosity. People actually bought yellow tinted shooting glasses from sporting good stores to make the turf appear green while they were watching it.

I had some good laughs at people who think they were Pac10 worthy and they are academically sound enough to move up. The overall BSU grad rates are HALF of Idaho, and for four years we graduate more than three times as many students. They may be the top of the WAC at football, but they are the bottom for almost anything related to academics, the only reason there are colleges so there can be football. http://www.collegeresults.org/search...,142285,142115

AXOmom 06-16-2010 05:01 PM

Well, I'm pretty concerned at this point that the four northern Pac-10 schools just got royally screwed, but we'll wait and see how it plays out.

ISUKappa 06-16-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AXOmom (Post 1943712)
Well, I'm pretty concerned at this point that the four northern Pac-10 schools just got royally screwed, but we'll wait and see how it plays out.

Nah, you'll have Colorado in your division. As long as they have Dan Hawkins coaching, it'll be a somewhat easy W in FB. ;)

AXOmom 06-16-2010 07:35 PM

Hey, now, be careful there! Seriously though, not worried about playing the Buffs although it pains me to see them so down (I grew up in Denver - lived there from age 7 to age 18), but, again, rumor has it they were promised the south division (hopefully not true) which means we wouldn't play the Southern Cal schools as often. That could mean much less tv exposure which hurts in terms of money and recruits. Not saying that's what will happen, but I'm a little concerned.

Ghostwriter 06-18-2010 07:53 AM

The Pac-10 is now the Pac-12. Utah receives the coveted 12th spot. Good for them. The underdog wins one.

So the Pac-10 has 12, the Big 10 has 12 and the Big 12 has 10.

WCsweet<3 06-18-2010 04:37 PM

After reading about the possible ways to split the conference, which way do you think is better? North South or East West?

In case you want to read more: http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_...ions-look-like

OHNOITSJESS 06-18-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1944510)
So the Pac-10 has 12, the Big 10 has 12 and the Big 12 has 10.

lol.

lovespink88 11-19-2012 01:54 PM

I guess we should change our name to the Big 14? :confused::confused::confused:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...en-sources-say

ETA: Although yay for more AXiD chapters in my conference! We just colonized at Maryland this fall...(and a little off topic but Michigan State is re-colonizing Fall 2013!)

Cheerio 11-19-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 2190032)
I guess we should change our name to the Big 14? :confused::confused::confused:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...en-sources-say

ETA: Although yay for more AXiD chapters in my conference! We just colonized at Maryland this fall...(and a little off topic but Michigan State is re-colonizing Fall 2013!)

The logo already says Big 16, so which schools are waiting in the wings to join??

IndianaSigKap 11-19-2012 09:48 PM

I am purist and this is killing me. I was willing to cave in for Penn State, they fit in with the Big Ten well. Then I was ok with Nebraska. I am less ok with Maryland, too far east. I wanted Mizzou when Nebraska came. But NO on Rutgers, the Big Ten is not New Jersey. The campus just does not have the same feel and appearance. Color me underwhelmed. :(


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