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Zillini 12-12-2009 11:09 AM

No one will argue that the original and true purpose of a Rec is for a GLO alumna who knows the PNM to personally recommend her and provide personal information showing how she would be as asset to the chapter/org. The thing is at Bama and other similarly competitive campuses having Recs has evolved into a part of the competitive Recruitment process. In other parts of the country Recs are a rarity, but here they are a necessity. Why? Because so many other PNMs have one (or more) so if a PNM wants to be on the same starting level she needs one too.

Regardless of what anyone says, the responsibility of finding a Rec falls on the PNM because of the huge numbers in recruitment. There is no way a chapter can find one for everyone nor would they even want to try. As I said in an earlier post there may be the occasional "rush crush" where one or more members chase one down, but as a whole the chapter doesn't simply because there are so many other fabulous PNMs who already have a Rec to choose from.

Not all Recs are created equal. Chapters often receive "Info Only" Recs which come from alumnae who have never met the PNM or barely know her. These may come from GLO Alumnae Associations, NPC Alumnae Associations, or simply an individual alumna that the PNM has gotten contact info from someone/somewhere. Having read numerous threads on the subject of Recs here, I have learned that most GLO's Rec forms ask how well the writer knows the PNM or if the writer doesn't know her how the information was obtained. An Info Only Rec may or may not carry as much weight as one written by an alumna who has known the PNM for years. That is part of membership selection policies and is confidential. Regardless, it still counts as having a Rec.

I can say with confidence that each chapter reads every Rec, regardless of who wrote it and the relationship to a PNM, in order to get as much information as possible on her. Some PNMs who don't have a Rec will send chapters a transcript and resume just so they have her info. That is read as well.

FYI most GLO's have a policy of courtesy inviting anyone with a Rec to the first invitational round. At Bama chapters often have more PNMs with Recs than they are allowed to invite back to 2nd round, especially now with RFM. Last spring Greek Affairs contacted all our I/Natls making them aware that courtesy invite policies may not be able to be enforced due to this. Needless to say this shocks and angers a great many alumnae who know their GLO's courtesy invite policy. The reaction is almost as bad as those who still think legacies cannot be dropped or that we'll call them about it.

Titchou 12-12-2009 12:00 PM

And I've had to chase down one for a few "rush crushes" over the years....one in particular still stands out. It was a toughie but they LOVED her. It was one of our top chapters so I finally managed to find a friend of a friend in this small Alabama town. And the girl turned out to be a great member....so it can happen. Was a good thing they called me and I was willing and had the time.

But you are right, Zillini, the sheer numbers at Bama just make it impossible for the chapters to do the recs, even when their nationals may require them.

KKGis4Me 12-12-2009 08:06 PM

Ok gotcha! Thanks for explaining that, because I was quite confused. So does that mean that if I rushed without a rec, they did indeed find someone to right one, or at less competitive schools, it's not necessary?

33girl 12-12-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KKGis4Me (Post 1874639)
Ok gotcha! Thanks for explaining that, because I was quite confused. So does that mean that if I rushed without a rec, they did indeed find someone to write one, or at less competitive schools, it's not necessary?

If your national policies require that you have a rec on file to become an initiated member, yes, you are correct. :)

Titchou 12-13-2009 02:22 PM

It has always been my policy wherever I've been a chapter adviser that the NMs write a thank you to the woman who sponsored them. So they've always known who that was.

Zillini 12-13-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1874805)
It has always been my policy wherever I've been a chapter adviser that the NMs write a thank you to the woman who sponsored them. So they've always known who that was.

What a great new member activity!

ADPiTigergurl 12-14-2009 02:40 AM

Well I honestly am still a little confused on the whole rec thing lol and Ive already been initiated. However, I go to a school where rush is not as competitive and in panhellinics own words "recs are not required to get a bid." This is true as far as I know as I nor my friends who went through rush had recs.

honeychile 12-14-2009 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ADPiTigergurl (Post 1874946)
Well I honestly am still a little confused on the whole rec thing lol and Ive already been initiated. However, I go to a school where rush is not as competitive and in panhellinics own words "recs are not required to get a bid." This is true as far as I know as I nor my friends who went through rush had recs.

Unless rules have changed within the past 5 years, Alpha Delta Pi requires a rec for everyone receiving a bid. If you go to a school where the Panhellenic Council requires one, or you should already know to have at least one for each GLO prior to Recruitment, you will have it. If not, there are alumnae who will write one for you - whether you've been told about it or not.

Titchou 12-14-2009 08:04 AM

Just because you didn't get the rec for yourself doesn't mean the chapter didn't find one for you.

aopirose 12-14-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1874988)
Just because you didn't get the rec for yourself doesn't mean the chapter didn't find one for you.

Agreed. I've written a few for the daughters of friends but the daughters probably never knew until after recruitment.

AnchorAlumna 12-14-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1874805)
It has always been my policy wherever I've been a chapter adviser that the NMs write a thank you to the woman who sponsored them. So they've always known who that was.

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1874821)
What a great new member activity!

Oh, absolutely! :p
It's great for several reasons:
1) Alumnae are thrilled to get them. They'll be HAPPY to write a rec next year if they're asked. Or to be an advisor. They might even be HAPPY to write the chapter a check for the next house/chapter room renovation! Or foundation fund-raiser!
2) It makes new members more aware of good manners, the recruitment process, how important alumnae continue to be, and how they are linked to ladies much older through their sorority.

Unfortunately, I haven't gotten one in probably 15 years. :(


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