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ThetaPrincess24 10-09-2009 11:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1855640)
Obama doesn't deserve a Nobel Prize.
110% Agree.

If he had accomplished something or was ont eh fast path to have accomplished somethign great that he has spoken about regarding global diplomacy, then I would have a different opinion.

I'm sorry, but I find this to be a crock of BS.

DrPhil 10-09-2009 11:50 AM
I don't care about differing opinions regarding his worthiness.

You do:

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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1855643)
@ETA: It never ceases to amaze me how folk who don't run anything but their mouths try to second guess those who are in a position to make these awards. Why do you all get to say he doesn't deserve the award, when according to the judgement of the folks that vote for these prizes year-in and year-out, he does. Give me a break.

Kappamd 10-09-2009 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1855714)
110% Agree.

If he had accomplished something or was ont eh fast path to have accomplished somethign great that he has spoken about regarding global diplomacy, then I would have a different opinion.

I'm sorry, but I find this to be a crock of BS.
YES

DaemonSeid 10-09-2009 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1855712)
And you can get used to the fact that in the minds of those that count, in this situation, he does. :neutral:

I think that it is a great surprise to many and a wonderful honor for him.
Let it go...

srmom 10-09-2009 12:00 PM
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Obama says he will accept the Prize as a call to action and a source of inspiration. Well, that's why the Award was awarded prematurely--it was an award for the promises of the Administration.
Kind of like awarding a gold medal to a swimmer before he jumps in the water in the hopes that it will push and inspire him to swim faster.

It demeans the significance of the award. But what else is new in this, "You're so awesome, Good Job!!" (even if you aren't, and it wasn't) era?

KSig RC 10-09-2009 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1855643)
ETA: It never ceases to amaze me how folk who don't run anything but their mouths try to second guess those who are in a position to make these awards. Why do you all get to say he doesn't deserve the award, when according to the judgement of the folks that vote for these prizes year-in and year-out, he does. Give me a break.
You're insane. Yassir Arafat won a Nobel Peace Prize. Your blind support of the Nobel committee is ... um... less than laudable. Think critically.

lovespink88 10-09-2009 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1855634)
I don't know...I mean, it's great for the President to receive the award, but it seems a little premature to me.
Although I am an supporter of Obama, I agree with this 100%. When I heard the news I was just like..."Um...wait, why?"

On a slightly different subject, I am STILL not sick of Kanye West jokes. :p Just saw this on Twitter:

"YO PRESIDENT OBAMA I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT AL GORE WAS THE GREATEST WINNER OF ALL TIME"

chickenoodle 10-09-2009 12:06 PM
I attempted to search for a list of nominees, but that information is sealed until 2059. I did learn, however, that the nomination process takes a year which starts in September, nominations close in February and the deliberating process continues until the winner is announced in October.

Unless I miss my guess, Obama was nominated based on half a term as Senator, a book, campaign promises (:rolleyes:) and 12 days of presidency.

I must say I agree with DrPhil's assessment of the awards, even though the idealist in me died a little bit. He is now bound to his award. I wonder if this award and his promises and/or his duty as President will ever come into conflict (I would think not, but a lot can happen in 3 1/2 years)? I should be curious to see which one wins...


Here's where I found that info:
Fox
CNN

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1855669)
Nobel Prize's are political.

Speculation:
Winning one binds the Administration to whatever its promises/plans are (whatever they are) and theoretically prevents the Administration from bombing/going to war with particular countries.

Administrations are always bound to political promises with the international community at some level, and this one just came in the form of a Nobel Prize.

So, yeah, Obama wasn't given one because HE deserved it. :)

DaemonSeid 10-09-2009 12:24 PM
@gamma, "No. You are the wrong color."



Crazy train came...crazy train went...heh!

Munchkin03 10-09-2009 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1855695)
@Phil

Well, my statement was not about Obama. The Nobel Foundation is a private foundation that has specific criteria that it uses to select the folks that will be awarded a prize in any given year. The folks designated to vote answer only to their collective interpretation of that criteria. By virtue of the fact that they have selected Obama to receive the award, he deserves it.

It is, in a lot of ways, akin to sorority or fraternity membership. It's like someone telling you that a Delta, who you voted into the organization, does not deserve to be a Delta. What would your response be? I am sure that it would be something like, who are you--an outsider--to tell me--a member--who deserves to be voted into my organization.
WE ARE NOT QUESTIONING HIS RECEIPT OF THE AWARD BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

Little32 10-09-2009 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1855733)

Crazy train came...crazy train went...heh!

No, the crazy train keeps on rolling... lol.

KSigkid 10-09-2009 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1855749)
No, the crazy train keeps on rolling... lol.
I'm glad we've reached the point in the discussion where we are labeling dissenting opinions as "crazy."

DaemonSeid 10-09-2009 01:04 PM
@kSig

You did see what we were referencing that to.

max (as well as the rest of the train) has arrived on time.

reason why you may not have seen it was bbecause he/she/it deleted their message before it was quoted...however

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Originally Posted by gamma (Post 1855752)
Obama is the token black guy.
it came back new and improved.

DrPhil 10-09-2009 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1855753)
I'm glad we've reached the point in the discussion where we are labeling dissenting opinions as "crazy."
ETA: Nevermind, there were deleted posts.

KSigkid 10-09-2009 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1855755)
@kSig

You did see what we were referencing that to.

max (as well as the rest of the train) has arrived on time.

reason why you may not have seen it was bbecause he/she/it deleted their message before it was quoted...however



it came back new and improved.
Ah, ok...if you're referring only to Gamma with the "crazy" stuff, then I withdraw my statement.


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