Never realized you were a combat vet Dekeguy. Thank you very much for your service, and I must say I am impressed with your record.

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Thank you but ...
OK, now I am embarrassed. I was sounding off about what I considered to be a way out of line rant. I really don't like to make a big deal out of something that I believe in very much. I like to tell people about my war stories but I feel funny about sounding like, well, you know...

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Appreciate your comment, but please see my response just above this one. I don't like people who brag and I think I came pretty close to it when I answered that out of line rant a few posts ago.

Which is one of the reasons for your all-around awesomeness. ;)

As an actual combat veteran, I am pretty disgusted this jackoff would have the audacity to tell me that I am not "a real veteran" because I must not have seen people die. He does not know what I have seen or what I did.

A note for any other "combat veterans" who want to trash talk people who either DID serve overseas in a combat situation or DID NOT-you don't have the right to trash talk people you don't know.

Just because you served time overseas, don't assume you can look down on people who did not. It is pretty pathetic and makes you seem like a loser. So for greeksrpansys-you can kiss my ass!

Military
 

Fraternal Greetings SigEpLegacy,

I think I've mentioned this on other threads before but here goes again.

Collegiate and University enrollment spiked to record levels as a result of World War II. Many GIs, mostly men, left WWII and began cashing in on their Montgomery GI Bill benefits. This was a great economic driver in the world of higher education. While these GIs attended these colleges and universities they began to join college fraternities on their campuses. Many of these GIs brought the spirit and camaraderie from the battlefield into these collegiate fraternities triggering the genesis of hazing as the media knows it know. Rigorous exercise, sleep deprivation, etc, prior to this era, was not common amongst collegiate GLOs. Most rights of passage for GLOs, prior to WWII, comprised of simple meetings, a religious type initiation ritual, usually with candles and fellowship. Hazing hit an apex on college campuses in the 60s and 70s with movies like "Animal House" and the influence of the media. It continued on through the 80s and into the 90s but began to lose steam with heightened Risk Management practices that have become standardized for many National GLOs.

Anyway, not to get into a separate topic but in my opinion the fraternities suitable for Veterans to enlist in are the exact same ones that already exist. For the record, I do not condone hazing. This was simply a historical snip-it for my fellow GCrs.

Fraternal Regards,

Boodleboy322

While there is much truth to what you've said, brother, in that hazing took on a whole new aspect after soldiers returned from WWII and went to school on the GI bill, I wouldn't discount or ignore the hazing that took place prior to WWII. As just one example, opposition to hazing was a significant factor in the founding of Sigma Nu 1869.

Fraternity for Veterans
 

Duly noted brother Mystic Cat. However, keep in mind that trends, regardless of good or bad, are the result of the Macro and not the Micro.

Yours in Phi Mu Alpha,

Boodleboy322

I am a veteran, and work for the Veterans Administration. A veteran is anybody who has completed their terms of service honorably with the US military, to include Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, the Public Health Service and the National Oceanographic Service (the last 2 surprised me too). Combat is not a determining factor, nor is retirement.

To everyone who has the mispleasure of reading "Chucks" bullshit. I apologize on behalf of service members all over the world. Being a combat vet doesn't give anyone the right of degrade others. He probably isn't smart enough to attend college. Once again, I'm sorry.