We had a crazy secretary who named her dog Rob Roy McGregor because he was a good Scottish dog, and the defender of his home like Rob Roy was the defender of his country. What is your dog, I asked: Collie? Scottie? Cairn Terrier? Sheltie? Skye Terrier? Golden Retriever?

No, she answered to each. He's a German Shepherd.

hahahaha

that made my morning

Reminds me of one of my mother's childhood stories. During WWII, my mother was a little girl living in India, which was still a British colony at the time. One of her family's friends had a dog (I don't know what breed) named... Rommel. The dog responded only to Rommel - calling him Rom or Rommie did no good.

One day, the dog went missing, and my mother was recruited to help find him. So there she was, wandering around a town in British India, yelling "Rommel! Rommel!" and getting some very strange looks indeed... (But she did find him.)

Hey, it looks like the kids were taken from their home for reasons OTHER than their names...imagine that!!!

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...ents-Home.html

Actually, the story makes it sound as if DSHS did not have a clear reason. The police officer is even quoted as saying that he's always liked the father!

You are really reaching. The state said the children were not taken because of their names but won't say why. What does that prove? The state also said there was no indication of abuse or neglect.

"The sergeant said based on his personal experiences with Heath Campbell, he had no idea what could have led to the decision."


Your source, the DYFS is a garbage agency with tons of problems. The DYFS is the same agency that oversaw the placement of four teenage brothers. When a neighbor found one of the kids going through his trash looking for food he called the cops. The four brothers had a combined weight of 120 lbs and the 19 year old weighed 45 lbs. There is a pic in the link. The 19 year old is at the bottom right with rotted out teeth.

http://cbs3.com/topstories/Starvatio...ectflash=false
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/11/ny...arve.html?_r=1

They have also lost the newborn.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...f-newborn-hons

do you suppose they intended to name their child hAnszlynn HIMMLER? and intended to name the new baby hAns?

Wait -- they lost custody because of the names? Or am I missing something?

Apparently the father was accused of domestic abuse and the mother of failing to protect the children. Having represented parents and kids in quite a few juvenile removal proceedings, the parents are going to lie to everyone involved, in this case, probably to the news media, case workers, their own attorneys, etc.

On the other side of that coin is the fact that the caseworkers are often underqualified, overloaded, and also tend to have a touch-and-go relationship with telling the truth in court.

All I can really speak to is Oklahoma, but if this was happening here in OKC, the parents would have had two options, stipulate to the charges and complete a "plan" or go to a jury trial for the termination of their parental rights. If I'm their lawyer, I'm not taking a case where parents name their children Adolf Hitler to a jury. I'm working a plan.

Those plans usually involve the parents taking lots of classes, drug tests, being involved in therapy and other programs. In my experience, most parents who work plans fail to do so because they either relapse or can't deal with authority.

Either way, we're only hearing the parents' side of things, which is probably a partial or complete fabrication. I'm sure their state's juvenile code requires that juvenile caseworkers, attorneys, etc., keep the case confidential.

Forced sterilization is too good for these two.

There has to be more then the names. For DYFS to take away custody, you done screwed up bad.

Yea, that was my thought, but this (from the article)...

Quote:

A New Jersey couple who lost custody of their first three kids after giving them Nazi-inspired names has been denied the right to take home their fourth child, a newborn boy they named Hons.

...threw me off.

This is yet another instance of how people can figuratively do whatever the hell they want to do but they can't always literally do whatever the hell they want to do. Sometimes doing whatever the hell you want to do puts the spotlight on you and other things are discovered.

This would be a godsend. Even if we just start paying people say $5K or so to have their tubes tied, I'd love to see it.

As mentioned, I do work as a volunteer attorney representing children in deprived proceedings. One of the places I do that is on the show-cause docket where the state has to appear and show cause why they took the kids into custody. I'll do anywhere between 3-4 to 12-15 of those cases on an individual docket.

I can't tell you how many times I've read a file and my kid or kids are mom's 6th, 7th, etc. I once had a kid who was something like the 12th kid taken into custody from the same mother (some kind of drug addict).