Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1754835)

If you disagree...cool.

We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.
You pissed me off because you stated your indifference towards the DEATH of the President for no other reason then because he disagrees with you politically.

A few gems from he and co. :

" I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense."

"And for those of you who said you wouldn't be upset if he died... you're retarded. "

"I agree completely. People who think this is funny are, IMO, way out of line."

"You certainly don't have to "feel sorry" for Bush but to say that you wouldn't be saddened if he died is FUCKED UP, "



NO!

It's called practicing my 1st Amendment right!
And nobody is trying to arrest you for it. The first amendment protects from the government suppressing your free speech, not from people calling you out for saying STUPID, CLASSLESS things.

All I am doing is talking about it!
Thats all that anyone is doing on here?

Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.

If you don't like them...you don't like them.

And you sure as hell can't force someone to feel sorry for them if something happens.

Hell, if anyone is retarded it would be following along with the crowd in either aspect when you know deep down you feel differently!

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1754843)

That's really unfortunate. I think the fact that this man was beaten like this (assuming that's a fact) shows how little progress we've made vis-a-vis changing Iraqi culture. I'm hoping this isn't a "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" sort of situation developing over there, but I fear it is.

4,000+ American lives and countless Iraqi lives have been spent and we still have a government which beats people before affording them a trial or any sort of due process. I don't care what side of the partisan divide you come down on, but that is complete bullshit.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1754835)

We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1754846)

I agree with this statement 99.9999% of the time... but put yourself in their (the security force's) shoes. Your one job is to ensure the safety of the two men at the podium and somebody gets up and begins throwing things at them while yelling. What would your reaction be? I'm not sure that I wouldn't have shot the guy if I thought for a second that the President's life was in danger.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1754845)

You pissed me off because you stated your indifference towards the DEATH of the President for no other reason then because he disagrees with you politically.

Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1754847)

You can hate the man, but you should respect the office. It's a shame that our President is so disliked. But it shouldn't be acceptable for any American to support an assault on our President. Like KSigkid said, there are several posters in this thread who don't much care for Bush (myself included). The problem as I see it isn't that people have differing opinions regarding whether or not they like Bush, it's the differing opinions regarding how anyone who holds that office (whether they're liked or not) should be treated. The assault of a US President shouldn't be condoned by Americans. Ever.

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1754857)

I'll bet that under Islamic Law, (Iraq is some sort of quasi-civil/quasi-Islamic legal system, right?) there will be some sort of awful punishment for this man. Let him have his trial, then let justice be done.

Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1754874)

Again:
The assault on a US President shouldn't be condoned by Americans. Ever.
That's all I'm sayin'.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1754869)

Oh boo hoo...you want a hanky for it?



Why is it a shame? You think Bush is blameless on what people think of him? If he doesn't respect the office and IMO he hasn't, they why do you think people around the world are doing the things that they do?

Maybe you need to peep his approval ratings.

And while you are busy being pissed at my cavalier comments about Bush, maybe you ought to peep this:

Iraq's reconstruction a 100-billion failure

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081214...reconstruction

Talk about a Bridge to Nowhere.....

Originally Posted by DolphinChicaDDD (Post 1754877)

Just to bring it up, I'm not sure if anyone on here realizes the seriousness of shoes, particularly throwing them, in Islamic cultures. Shoes, and feet in general, are considered dirty and distasteful particularly the soles. Based on that fact alone, I am sure he will be punished accordingly.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1754881)

Yeah, I'll admit that my husband and I had a quick giggle as he dodged the second shoe after we gasped after the first one was launched, but we both sobered up about it quickly. Regardless of who is in office, when the President is out of country visiting other nations he *IS* the US. So as Americans, we should feel some protective reaction about anybody taking a pot shot at our Commander in Chief. Again, regardless of the man in the seat, that's the US Presidency. Its like that old adage about how I can bitch and moan all I want about my family but don't you dare say something against them because they're MY family.

Originally Posted by DolphinChicaDDD (Post 1754877)

Just to bring it up, I'm not sure if anyone on here realizes the seriousness of shoes, particularly throwing them, in Islamic cultures. Shoes, and feet in general, are considered dirty and distasteful particularly the soles. Based on that fact alone, I am sure he will be punished accordingly.

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1754857)

If they thought for a second that the President's life was in danger, they would have been within their rights to shoot the man. Since they didn't do that, they didn't think he was that much of a threat anymore.

There is no possible justification for that sort of beating, IMHO.

I'll bet that under Islamic Law, (Iraq is some sort of quasi-civil/quasi-Islamic legal system, right?) there will be some sort of awful punishment for this man. Let him have his trial, then let justice be done.