I think that is a very hypocritical point of view. It's like you used the AI boards for your personal information and then want to deny the same information getting passed to someone else. It's like, "I got in, but I'm going to support efforts to make it more difficult for others" mentality.

Now, if I was able to find my AI home, would I sponsor someone from the internet? Absolutely not. If I didn't know them personally, there is no way. I also, don't expect someone to extend me the same courtesy, nor would I ask for it.

I know. I was just thinking the same thing. Great minds think alike. :)

How does that post imply that Valkyrie used the AI boards for her journey? Am I missing a key part of your point or what?

I don't see anything wrong with someone asking the question, some people just don't know.

Like when I heard back from the sorority that I am currently "in talks" with, I was told I needed a sponsor, BUT it was followed by, "I am forwarding your name to the local chapter president so she can get in touch with you to invite you to AA events so you can meet the ladies of XYZ".

However, if someone is sent a response or gets a phone call, and is told they need a sponsor, period, that is a sheer hint that they mean just that. That the sorority isn't up for making the introduction, and that is where the potential AI's membership quests is pretty much squashed.

I would think that would be clear and an honest answer.

Amazing is it it not?:eek:

Seems some of the same things I said before doesnt it??:confused:

But it still wonders me when some get so upset about AI when it "may" and "will" become a fact of life.

KPL, I suggest that you delete your Sig. concerning Me!:rolleyes: :mad:

While some want to make general statements about AI, it does happen with more frequency than some may want to admit, in giving the many who have on G C and then giving them a slap in the face is totally uncalled for.:mad:

For those who want and wish to try to do AI, I wish them the best of LUCK inspite of spome of the dead asses for a better words who pitch a Bitch about it!:o

Oh, especially those who have done AI and are so Anti AI!

Some and it is such a Hot Button, do not realize it, get used to it.:rolleyes:

Tom, please cease your comments about AI. You have no idea what you're talking about and you clearly don't read other people's points-of-view to warrant a decent reply that has anything to do with the issues at hand. I don't understand why a fraternity alumnus is so obsessed with telling sorority women what their own organizations do and don't do.

I'm afraid I'll be sorry for getting into the middle of this:

Tom, I don't think it is that those of us who have done AI are now anti AI. I think many are against the way the information is spread, or the way incorrect information is being given.

That is all from me....

Question: Do you mash your shift and enter key randomly while you type? I'm still trying to get to the bottom of your inability to articulate your point of view.
Tom you might have better luck pursuing a hair transplant than an alumni initiation. Rumour has it you're male and as such know nothing about sorority procedure, however you delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

This is officially the deadest horse on Greekchat since Gamma Chi.

seriously. put the bottle down.

Tiny, I understand your point, but to me, there is already a ton of misinformation about sororities in general floating around on the internet. The way it's sometimes portrayed in the media and so forth.

GC isn't a part of NPC, and a sticky at the top of the AI Forum should clarify that, and it's already there that the best place to contact for information is the National.

I agree with all of that.

But, on the other hand, if someone wants to look up information on GC and it's wrong information, I don't feel sorry for the person that chooses to not follow directions. Some people are just going to insist on doing it their way.

I don't think it looks bad on the organization, at all. I mean, what are they going to say? Call National and say, "hey, I read on GC that _______ about AI was true, and you are telling me it's not?"

I'm sure they are going to get told that they can't control the content on other websites, and they should have contacted national to start with. They'll also be told, as is mentioned many times on this website, that it is not affiliated in any way with NPC or GLO.

And last time I checked, the media normally doesn't cover membership stuff. Unless you count Alexandra Robbin's book which is 150% true.:)

Your point is excellent, but look at it from this angle:

A sister is walking around in her letters (for the sake of argument, we know for a fact she is initiated and a member in good standing with her GLO), drinking alcohol, smoking, badmouthing other GLOs and spouting out ritual information.
This is the first time you have ever seen a member of this GLO, and you assume that everything she does is what her GLO stands for.
Now NHQ (or IHQ) cannot control what she does personally. They cannot be everywhere at once. What they can do is lay down boundaries for representing the GLO.
The rule of thumb is 'when in doubt, don't.'
NHQs and IHQs cannot control the content on this website. They can tell members to exercise extreme discretion. Following this logic, this forum should not exist. 'When in doubt, don't.'
Let's say Suzie XY says, 'AI with my sorority is a snap.' You have just heard of AI and you're excited to hear this. Then Jane XY says, 'no it's not, don't listen to Suzie XY.' Who do you believe? Who is correct? Would there be any confusion if the information wasn't on the internet in the first place?
No one's trying to prevent AI here. But getting information from GC is like citing wikipedia for your doctoral dissertation.

Did that make sense?

I completely understand what you are trying to say, and fully agree with the spirit of it.

I don't know, maybe it's just me. I was looking at the GC boards to get an idea of how the AI process, not a "How To" manual. I mean, there really isn't much to it (in regards to complexity), call or send an e-mail, state your case, and wait.

However, I would fully support the deletion of any posts where someone is trying to solicit sponsorship from members online, or where someone posted too-specific details, mentioned their GLO before an invitation was extended, or made any reference, no matter how slight, that AI was "easy".

I agree with your points, however, it has been stated several times, that AI is not meant to be pursued.

If a group approached you and you are invited to join, the process is quite easy. You fill out a form, order a badge, learn all you can, and wait until initiation.