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adpiucf 10-11-2006 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit (Post 1337139)
If the AI forum is disbanded, I for one, wouldn't be posting here any longer and I would'nt recommend it to anyone else who is looking to AI either.

That's exactly what we are going for in the suggestion to disband the AI Forum. A sorority should come to you to invite you to AI. Not the other way around.

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit (Post 1337139)
From the dates in the AI forum, there are fewer and fewer posts for AI and it is getting less and less active for AI's. I think potential AI members are tired of getting attacked for their interests and getting grilled by other GC members, who may NOT EVEN be a member of the sorority they are looking at, about why they want to join, etc. That isn't anyone's business, it's between the PNAI and the AA, and no PNAI should have to justify it to anyone on GC.

You make it other people's business by sharing your story on a public message board. I don't care what any of you "AI seekers" are doing in real life, but your publicizing your sorority shopping on the internet gives others the idea that they should pursue it, too. And that's not how AI works for the vast majority of NPC sororities. It isn't something to be pursued. It's something to be approached about by a current sorority member.

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit (Post 1337139)
The reason is, there is too much back-stabbing, vindictive behavior on GC. I have been reading through alot of threads, it's better than a book. I saw one thread (on the collegiate side) where a girl's boyfriend had dumped her, and his NEW girlfriend was getting ready to rush in the Spring at another college...she was posting to see if she should call the sorority there because "she couldn't deal with potentially having her as a sister". That's just nothing but high-school BULLSH*T, and I have read the same thing on the AI side. If a member gets into a fight on GC with PNAI, the first thing they say is, "We'll make sure you don't get in."

As members of these organizations, we have every right to share information with chapters about PNM's whom we feel would not make good members. This is common practice and that is why we have PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP SELECTION POLICIES.

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit (Post 1337139)
I just don't understand where that kind of thinking comes from.

It comes from being part of an exclusive organization that does not have open membership.

ETA: The AI's don't need a forum. Once initiated, they are our sisters. These sisters, who joined through our alumnae initation programs, have 26 NPC forums dedicated to them and we want them to take part in all things in Greek Life online and IRL as our fellow equals. There should be no such thing as a PNAI because a sorority should approach you about AI in their organization. Thus there is no need for a forum about AI.

greekalum 10-11-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit (Post 1337268)
Hey, I am so with you on that one! Maybe that should be the first test for AI...if you can't read on a 4th grade level, you don't get any info <winK>

Perhaps members who are familiar with their organizations' requirements for AI are best suited to decide what "the first test for AI" should be.

DolphinChicaDDD 10-11-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by _Lisa_ (Post 1337232)
AI should not be sought.

YES!
CO-SIGN!

AI should be an invitiation from the sorority to the potential member.

texas*princess 10-11-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1337271)
You make it other people's business by sharing your story on a public message board. I don't care what any of you "AI seekers" are doing in real life, but your publicizing your sorority shopping on the internet gives others the idea that they should pursue it, too. And that's not how AI works for the vast majority of NPC sororities. It isn't something to be pursued. It's something to be approached about by a current sorority member.


AGREED.

So many of the AI stories start with "So I was lurking for the past 10 months and now I'm finally going to post!!!! I am so excited that there is AI because I couldn't rush in college because of ___________ and now that I'm 45 I'm ready to find my forever sorority home!! I already contacted 10 NPC groups and will name them after the characters on The OC! OMG I'm so excited!"

Unregistered- 10-11-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum (Post 1337276)
Perhaps members who are familiar with their organizations' requirements for AI are best suited to decide what "the first test for AI" should be.

....and I believe this thread has just now received its second wind. :)

bluefish81 10-11-2006 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit (Post 1337211)
No one has posted on this entire thread that NPC had a general AI policy.

That's because as far as I know there isn't one. As has been stated several times, each of the 26 NPC organizations sets their own policy for AI. I'm familiar with my sorority's policy as I attended the convention where it was voted on, but I know absolutely nothing about the other 25 groups' polcies.

If you know of some NPC general AI policy that I'm not aware, please post it or direct me to a link to it as I'd be curious to read it.

UGAalum94 10-11-2006 08:51 PM

Other than some recommendations about rush, which we all know is totally differently than AI, does the NPC have general rules about anything that individual groups do?

Maybe a few like, if you are in one group, you can't be in another group.

But in general, GLOs don't have the same policies.

No one expects that they do.

Yet, we still have GreekChat conversations about what groups do. Everyone understands that just because one group does something one way, it doesn't mean that every group A) does that one thing and/or B) that if they do it, they do it the same way.

I'm not sure why people find "that different groups have different rules about AI" means that no one can discuss AI.

It seems to be another example of how a rule applied to AI doesn't seem to guide other areas of GreekChat.

DSTCHAOS 10-11-2006 09:12 PM

Circular discussion.

UGAalum94 10-11-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1337438)
Circular discussion.


I agree, but I don't know that I'm particularly guilty.

I don't think I, individually, am especially responsible for it going in a circle. I'm sure that I contribute.

Maybe: Although Alphagamuga acknowledges her contribution to the circular nature of the AI discussion, the complete culpability for the recursive nature of the discussion rests with all.

tunatartare 10-11-2006 09:29 PM

that's quite a lot of pronouns for such a short reply

UGAalum94 10-11-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy (Post 1337453)
that's quite a lot of pronouns for such a short reply

Yes, yes it is. I tried to take out at least one.

DSTCHAOS 10-11-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga (Post 1337446)
I agree, but I don't know that I'm particularly guilty.

I mean that I don't think I, individually, am especially responsible for it going in a circle. I'm sure that I contribute.

You aren't the only redundant one in this thread. At some point people will realize that it's not so much a huge and ongoing disagreement as it is people saying many of the same things in different ways. It's a case where the powers-that-be need to swoop in and just DO something and stick by whatever decision they make.

UGAalum94 10-11-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1337455)
You aren't the only redundant one in this thread. At some point people will realize that it's not so much a huge and ongoing disagreement as it is people saying many of the same things in different ways. It's a case where the powers-that-be need to swoop in and just DO something and stick by whatever decision they make.

I was so much in agreement with what you say here that for a while I wasn't even going to bother posting.

Then Criminal Minds on TV wasn't quite holding my complete attention, and one thing led to another. . .

valkyrie 10-11-2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga (Post 1337446)
Maybe: Although Alphagamuga acknowledges her contribution to the circular nature of the AI discussion, the complete culpability for the recursive nature of the discussion rests with all.

Huh?

UGAalum94 10-11-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1337476)
Huh?

Exactly. But it's the same idea with fewer pronouns. I'm just being dumb.


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