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SydneyK 02-12-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1778753)
And WHO is Jacob's son? I didn't pick up that it was Jack - what am I missing?

When Locke saw Christian in the well, Christian said something like, "When you came to see me at my cabin..." This suggests that Christian is Jacob, since all previous references to the cabin have led us to believe the cabin is Jacob's.

So, if Christian is Jacob, then Jack would be his (Jacob's) son. (Likewise, Claire would be Jacob's daughter.)

PhiMuTillIDie 02-12-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1778759)
When Locke saw Christian in the well, Christian said something like, "When you came to see me at my cabin..." This suggests that Christian is Jacob, since all previous references to the cabin have led us to believe the cabin is Jacob's.

So, if Christian is Jacob, then Jack would be his (Jacob's) son. (Likewise, Claire would be Jacob's daughter.)

I just went back and re-watched the scene. Christian said something about talking to Locke at THE cabin, not necessarily HIS cabin. I'm not convinced he's Jacob. I do, however, think Jacob might have the power to animate dead bodies to act as his messengers, which is why Christian, who died before he ever reached the Island, is suddenly up and walking around. Maybe that's why Richard never ages, he isn't actually alive...?

As for the whole pregnant woman thing, Juliet said that Claire was starting to show signs of the same thing that killed the other pregnant women despite having conceived off the Island, which is why I figured they'd find Rousseau's pregnancy interesting even if she didn't conceive on the Island.

Thetagirl218 02-12-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuTillIDie (Post 1778801)
I just went back and re-watched the scene. Christian said something about talking to Locke at THE cabin, not necessarily HIS cabin. I'm not convinced he's Jacob. I do, however, think Jacob might have the power to animate dead bodies to act as his messengers, which is why Christian, who died before he ever reached the Island, is suddenly up and walking around. Maybe that's why Richard never ages, he isn't actually alive...?

As for the whole pregnant woman thing, Juliet said that Claire was starting to show signs of the same thing that killed the other pregnant women despite having conceived off the Island, which is why I figured they'd find Rousseau's pregnancy interesting even if she didn't conceive on the Island.


First off, sorry if I was annoying some by writing in white, I just know some of you are in a later time zone and I didn't want to spoil it....

Anyways...I am not buying the fact that Richard is dead...he has been seen off the island without aging, so I don't think he is dead; this might explain the crazy Russian dude a couple seasons ago who died several times... though I do agree that Jacob could animate dead people. Maybe that is why Hurley sees them in his dreams?

Ok, I am really confused about how old Charlotte is supposed to be.....I was thinking late twenties, early thirties so how could she be a kid during the Dharma years...

Also something strange I was thinking about last night...Remember at the begining of this season when the main Dharma guy (the guy who leaves all the weird videos at the stations) was getting out of bed...he had a baby..... I have a feeling that baby is Miles..... Faraday said something in the last episode to Miles about him being sure if this was his first time on the island....I am thinking he was born on the island...

SWTXBelle 02-12-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1778759)
When Locke saw Christian in the well, Christian said something like, "When you came to see me at my cabin..." This suggests that Christian is Jacob, since all previous references to the cabin have led us to believe the cabin is Jacob's.

So, if Christian is Jacob, then Jack would be his (Jacob's) son. (Likewise, Claire would be Jacob's daughter.)

Thanks - makes sense.

SydneyK 02-13-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1779069)
Thanks - makes sense.

Well, it would've made sense if I had remembered the scene correctly. Based on what PhiMuTillIDie said after rewatching it, however, I don't know that what I said holds water anymore. But, if other viewers heard/interpreted that conversation the same way I did initially, then it makes sense why people are speculating that Jack is Jacob's son. That doesn't mean any of us are right, though.

I'm really liking that the producers (or whoever makes the decision) have started replaying the previous episode (with pop-ups!) right before the new episode. Some of the explanations in those pop-ups that are quite helpful.

Of all the LOST mysteries/questions, is there one question that eats at you more than others? What ONE question do you hope the creators fully explain by the end of the series?

IlovemyAKA 02-13-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1779066)
Also something strange I was thinking about last night...Remember at the begining of this season when the main Dharma guy (the guy who leaves all the weird videos at the stations) was getting out of bed...he had a baby..... I have a feeling that baby is Miles..... Faraday said something in the last episode to Miles about him being sure if this was his first time on the island....I am thinking he was born on the island...

I love that!! I think you're onto something.

sigmadiva 02-13-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1779206)
I'm really liking that the producers (or whoever makes the decision) have started replaying the previous episode (with pop-ups!) right before the new episode. Some of the explanations in those pop-ups that are quite helpful.

Me too!!!!

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Of all the LOST mysteries/questions, is there one question that eats at you more than others? What ONE question do you hope the creators fully explain by the end of the series?
Just one??? Okay, for me it is what is the one event / moment / person that connects everyone to the island. I think the producers have established that everyone is connected in some way, but it also seems it may be based on one unique "something".

Unregistered- 02-15-2009 04:20 AM

I thought the room Faraday's mom was in looked familiar. That's the chapel from my high school! Yay Sacred Hearts!

BetteDavisEyes 02-16-2009 12:49 AM

I love creepy Ben. I wonder how he's going to get Sayid, Hurley and Kate to agree to return to the Island.

I adore Desmond! He's the cutest thing. Yummy!

SWTXBelle 02-18-2009 09:46 PM

Aw, nutz. I don't want Charlotte to die again! (watching last week's show)

Senusret I 02-18-2009 10:10 PM

You gotta hush til the people on the West Coast have seen it! ;)

IlovemyAKA 02-18-2009 10:22 PM

oops. fixed it

SWTXBelle 02-18-2009 10:31 PM

Or people on the West Coast need to stay away until after they've seen it!

I wish they would use the pop-ups all the time - it helps.

ASTalumna06 02-19-2009 12:35 AM

I love how the very end of almost every episode of this show has me saying "What?!" at my tv, with my mouth hanging open, looking amazed, and leaves me frozen for about 10 seconds.

The writers of Lost amaze me. every. time.

twinkle555 02-19-2009 02:30 AM

tonights episode was SO GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!

ASTalumna06 02-19-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 1781526)
tonights episode was SO GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!

Definitely, but now I'm more confused than ever. :p

luv n tpa 02-19-2009 10:11 AM

"We're not going to Guam, are we?"

BEST. I was pleasantly surprised to see him back. :) And the cliffhanger never fails.

SWTXBelle 02-19-2009 07:34 PM

WHAT DID BEN DO AT THE MARINA??? He had BETTER not have messed with Desmond, Penny, or Charlie. :mad:

twinkle555 02-19-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1781896)
WHAT DID BEN DO AT THE MARINA??? He had BETTER not have messed with Desmond, Penny, or Charlie. :mad:

AHH i know I was DYING to know!! Why the F wouldnt Jack ask why he was beat up when he got on the plane!?!?


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My boyfriend thinks that Ben killed Penny since he said that he had a 'promise' left..or something to that effect. And he DID promise Widmore that he would kill his daughter for killing his.

Thetagirl218 02-19-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 1781937)
AHH i know I was DYING to know!! Why the F wouldnt Jack ask why he was beat up when he got on the plane!?!?


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My boyfriend thinks that Ben killed Penny since he said that he had a 'promise' left..or something to that effect. And he DID promise Widmore that he would kill his daughter for killing his.

He would have had to kill Desmond to get to her, and crazy woman said that the island was not done with him yet.....

Maybe if Penny is dead.....That is what is going to make Desmond go back to the island to kill Ben?

Another thought....I think Ben helped Locke hang himself...

I thought last night's episode was kind of a let down....they built up this new time travel thing for 6 episodes and then all of the sudden they are on the island and accomplish their goal? It just seems too strange...

tangelo212 02-19-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1782020)
I thought last night's episode was kind of a let down....

Yeahhh... not my fave either. I didn't really have any of those ohmygodohmygodohmygod moments sitting on the edge of my seat. Yeah, I'm curious about what Ben had to mysteriously take care of => blood all over him... and yeah, the Jin part was cool like all of the cliffhangers are, but for the most part, I didn't like this episode as much as I like others.

LucyKKG 02-19-2009 11:53 PM

Yeah I agree with WTF happened to Ben?

And Aaron? Kate said something really ominous like, "Don't ask me about him ever again."

twinkle555 02-20-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1782080)
Yeah I agree with WTF happened to Ben?

And Aaron? Kate said something really ominous like, "Don't ask me about him ever again."

Ill be really upset if something like that happened to Aaron....I wonder what happened to him?

KDAngel 02-20-2009 03:06 AM

I'm officially over this show. It's just not worth my time anymore.

PhiMuTillIDie 02-21-2009 12:36 AM

So my little and I were discussing this week's episode today and we have a few theories:

The passengers on the plane are supposed to be representative of some of the original passengers, and even if some of the passengers are the same, they might not necessarily represent themselves (like Locke replacing Christian).

For example: Sayid was brought on by a woman who looks like a cop, won't leave his side and appears to be escorting him somewhere. The hunch is that he is replacing Kate. The cop with him is representing either Ana Lucia or the agent who was bringing Kate back to the U.S. (could be either, really).

The man who was in line behind Jack at the ticketing area said the same line Sayid said to Jack before the first flight (something about being sorry to hear about his loss), and previews for next week show him on the Island, so he's probably replacing Sayid.

We also suspect that Kate is pregnant (she DID just sleep with Jack), and therefore representing Claire, since she doesn't need to represent herself. Sun, Hurley and Jack are more likely than not themselves (Jack especially).

It's kind of a long-shot, but if you think about it, it makes sense.

BetteDavisEyes 02-21-2009 12:47 AM

All good theories.

I agree with the theory that the reason Ben is beat up is b/c when he said he had a promise to fulfill (or something to that effect), it's b/c his promise was to Widmore. Widmore had Alex killed so Ben killed Penny. After all, he WAS on the boatyard beat up & bloody when he called Jack to tell him to pick up Locke.

Next week's episode looks awesome! Locke is alive? He was talking to the agent that had Sayid. I can't wait for the Jin/Sun reunion. :D

Hurley brought a guitar on board. Odd isn't it? Maybe Charlie was the one who told him to take it since Charlie had a guitar with him when he was on the plane the first time.

SWTXBelle 02-21-2009 11:41 AM

I don't think Aaron is completely out of the picture - being a b.o.i. has got to have some signficance. (Born on the island, for those not familiar with the term - Houstonians know it in reference to Galveston).

Penny better not be dead. :mad: Although it would provide motivation for Desmond to return to the island - to kill Ben.

tangelo212 02-21-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuTillIDie (Post 1782453)
So my little and I were discussing this week's episode today and we have a few theories:

The passengers on the plane are supposed to be representative of some of the original passengers, and even if some of the passengers are the same, they might not necessarily represent themselves (like Locke replacing Christian).

For example: Sayid was brought on by a woman who looks like a cop, won't leave his side and appears to be escorting him somewhere. The hunch is that he is replacing Kate. The cop with him is representing either Ana Lucia or the agent who was bringing Kate back to the U.S. (could be either, really).

The man who was in line behind Jack at the ticketing area said the same line Sayid said to Jack before the first flight (something about being sorry to hear about his loss), and previews for next week show him on the Island, so he's probably replacing Sayid.

We also suspect that Kate is pregnant (she DID just sleep with Jack), and therefore representing Claire, since she doesn't need to represent herself. Sun, Hurley and Jack are more likely than not themselves (Jack especially).

It's kind of a long-shot, but if you think about it, it makes sense.

I actually thought about this too. Don't forget, Hurley was carrying a guitar on the plane, so he could be representing Charlie.


I also really don't think Ben killed Penny, I just don't. He is capable of evil, but I don't think he killed her.

BetteDavisEyes 02-21-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tangelo212 (Post 1782503)
I also really don't think Ben killed Penny, I just don't. He is capable of evil, but I don't think he killed her.


I disagree b/c last year, he ordered the crazy Russian guy to kill the 2 women guarding Charlie. He also orchestrated the death of everyone on the island associated with the Dharma Initiative and his own father. He even told Richard to leave his father's body in the car & not to retrieve it. Is it colder to order people to be killed or to kill someone yourself? Either way, I think Ben is capable of way more than you think.

SydneyK 02-21-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuTillIDie (Post 1782453)
...The passengers on the plane are supposed to be representative of some of the original passengers, and even if some of the passengers are the same, they might not necessarily represent themselves (like Locke replacing Christian).

...Sun, Hurley and Jack are more likely than not themselves (Jack especially).

As tangelo mentioned, Hurley could be Charlie's proxy (by bringing the guitar).

On F815, Sawyer brought with him a letter that was important to him. On F316, Jack had the letter from Locke. Perhaps Jack is Sawyer's proxy.

On F815, Rose was holding Bernard's wedding ring. On F316, Sun was holding Jin's ring. So, Sun is Rose's proxy.

Even the guy who was standing behind Jack in line at the ticket counter said (paraphrasing), "Sorry about your loss." Sayid said the same thing to Jack before boarding F815 (referring to Christian). So, Sayid has a proxy we haven't really met yet.

Not long after LOST started, the creators said that everything we needed to know was in the pilot. I'm starting to see now why they said that. (Although part of me wonders whether the 'pilot' with all the answers is Lapedus, not the pilot episode.)

Thetagirl218 02-21-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1782464)
Yeah and how DID Sayid and Hurley know about that flight?

I have no clue about Sayid although the feeling is he was being sent back to Iraq for some reason...

I have a hunch that Charlie told Hurley to get on the flight, hence the guitar....

Which episode is Lapedus?

I think Ben killed Penny so now Desmond will come back to kill Ben....Remember Ellie said that the island was not done with him....

What I can't wrap my head around....How could you just up and leave you kid when you know you will be gone forever? Example, Sun just leaves her daughter and Kate just leaves Aaron....I think she left Aaron with his Grandmother.

SydneyK 02-21-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1782528)
Which episode is Lapedus?

Lapedus is the pilot of Flight 316. He is also the pilot of the helicopter that Miles, Charlotte and Faraday came to the island on, which is the same helicopter the O6 escaped the island & freighter on.

Yes, I ended that sentence with a preposition. But you all know what I mean.

PhiMuTillIDie 02-21-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1782536)
Lapedus is the pilot of Flight 316. He is also the pilot of the helicopter that Miles, Charlotte and Faraday came to the island on, which is the same helicopter the O6 escaped the island & freighter on.

Yes, I ended that sentence with a preposition. But you all know what I mean.

Another weird thing I just thought about is the numbers. Flight 815 had two of the numbers in it (4 8 15 16 23 42)... This new one only has one of them. Maybe that means something? Like, 815 is comprised of ALL numbers from the combination in the hatch, and that's why the whole plane crashed. This flight number (316) is only half from the combination, so it didn't crash-land because the island only needed half of the passengers on it?

ASTalumna06 02-21-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tangelo212 (Post 1782503)
I also really don't think Ben killed Penny, I just don't. He is capable of evil, but I don't think he killed her.

Oh, I definitely think it's possible. Ben really only became 'friends' and helped everyone from the flight to save his own ass. I don't think his motives have ever been pure. I've been waiting for him to do something wrong/bad.

twinkle555 02-23-2009 05:08 PM

Ok so if the island can move physically and through time, then maybe that giant foot statue is what is left of the Colossus of Rhodes? And maybe the island at one point moved to the Antarctic...that would explain the polar bear from the first season? Who knows, just popped into my head...

SydneyK 02-23-2009 05:21 PM

I think the polar bear has already been explained. Remember when Sawyer and Kate were locked in the cages - those were where the Dharma folks kept the bears. Ever since we saw Ben turn the frozen donkey wheel, I guess I assumed the bears were trained to be the ones to push the wheel (remember when Charlotte found the body of a polar bear with a Dharma collar on somehwere in the Tunisian desert?).

DaemonSeid 02-25-2009 10:13 PM

uhhh why was john kidnapped by quaeda?

heh

uh oooohh


a 'war' is coming...

tri deezy 02-25-2009 11:09 PM

I <3 John Locke. And, where the heck has Claire been?

twinkle555 02-25-2009 11:13 PM

Ok..so I still dont know who Ben killed...

:mad:

SWTXBelle 02-25-2009 11:20 PM

Well, he killed JOHN . . . do you mean someone else? Like at the marina?


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