44 year old grandmother's aren't extreme, honestly. You could graduate from college, get married and have a child by 22, and your child could do the same.31 is a whole 'nother ball game!

It's easy enough to do . . .
 

My mother was a grandmother at 45. She had me at 19 (6 weeks short of 20) , and I had my first child at 25. God willing, I've got a good 5 - 10 years before grandmotherhood, but that would make me 49 - 50.

My point was not that any of us should ever vote for a candidate simply because he or she is Greek. It was that this election slate is hardly an endorsement of Greek life that many of us value so highly. Hopefully some of your comments about these candidates attending college during a "low" era for Greek life is correct. In any event, Janerz222 is correct, those very out of date claims should be canned. In fact, most of the facts cited was information from almost a half century ago -- because I was involved in one of the studies pertaining to business executives .

Do GLOs offer leadership opportunities? Yes. Are they the only organizations that do? No. Students have more opportunities than ever before to get involved on campus, and the fact that we don't have a Greek running for P/VP is hardly anything to set off fear of the decline of the GLO.

As thrilled as I am whenever a sister is prominent in government, business or entertainment, I am actually prouder of many of the Greek men and women I know who you will never hear of - who use those skills to better their communities, their schools, their small-but-still-successful businesses. I believe that the benefits of GLO membership can't - and shouldn't - just be measured by the famous, or those who ascend to a high position of power.

We don't know that for sure. For all we know all 4 might be in GLO's come 2012 and again in 2016 and again in 2020.

I haven't been keeping track of who's been in GLO's for the last 100 yrs because I don't have that kind of time on my hands, but really, it doesn't make sense to say "the end of an era has come" or that there was even an era to begin with.

Maybe oldu can go through the numbers and post a thread about Pres/VP greek affiliations so we can determine the best IFC fraternity by the one who has the most Pres/VP nominations !!! :rolleyes:

Tons of young adults are enrolled in college every year, but the vast majority of them probably do not elect to join a GLO, or maybe, like OTW pointed out, they did try, but were not given bids. This doesn't make them bad people and it doesn't mean they will never gain leadership experience.

Once again? Who cares?

I don't need a slate full of Greek people to justify going Greek. I also don't need websites full of "famous people" who are Greek to make me feel warm & fuzzy about my decisions. And I dont need all of that in order to tell a non-affiliated person the great things about Greek life.

If you want to sell the idea of Greek life by saying "Look! John McCain is a XYZ man! If you join XYZ you can be just like him!!!" or "Look! Paris Hilton is my sorority sister! If you join my chapter you can be rich and famous like her too!!!" then you keep on caring about who is and who isn't.

From SWTX's post:

I'm very curious where people are getting this. I've asked a few times, and all I've heard is the same old "somebody said that somebody read that somebody said" run around.

Unless there's proof, it's a pretty tacky thing to say about the daughter involved, let alone her family. And yes, I know of a few families who passed an illegitimate child off as the teenager's sibling (including my Girl Scout leader) - but not in the past 15-20 years!

And it just seems like on of those funny rumors that make less sense the more you think about it.

If you were faking a pregnancy to cover for your teenage daughter, wouldn't you make sure that you looked pregnant and talked about your pregnancy a lot?

I'm kind of at a point where I don't think anything in politics could honestly surprise me, and yet, this Palin story just seems far fetched. And it seems like it's going to be hard to even acknowledge enough to put to rest. What would you say, "hey since people on the internet are dragging my family through the mud, I'm going to go ahead and release my medical records?" and once you did, do you think the wackos would accept that, or would it go onto "well, those are obviously faked." It just seems a little conspiracy theory to me.

So Bristol really is pregnant....(posted only for information purposes, I am NOT judging anyone here..)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26496189/

Still pissed that three pages of supposedly off topic posts in this thread were deleted a couple of days ago, and now the thread is exactly back where it was before.

I'd really like an explanation for why all those posts were arbitrarily deleted.

And the now the judgment shifts from "faking her own pregnancy" to judgment of her as a parent of a pregnant teen.

Go!

It's all Jamie Lynn's fault!!

just kidding :)

Are you reading my mind?

So wait, is Bristol pregnant AGAIN or is that just Sarah Palin's admission that Trig is actually Bristol's child? It's weird that an article dated today says that Bristol IS pregnant.:confused:

You were wrong before.

ETA: Bristol is five month pregnant right now, which means she could not have been Trig's mom.

The campaign is saying that Bristol is pregnant now for the first time.

I'm just trying to get this straight. Who is Trig's mother?

And it also kind of points out that Palin doesn't seem to be the type to cover up her daughter's pregnancy. She was out in public and her mom's campaign events.

Sarah Palin.

I apologize for the "deal" comment earlier.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...ge_tab_newstab

Right.

This is why DS said he hoped this wasn't just a coverup story.

Well, you all can keep your fingers crossed, I guess.

I guess this is the real version of the tv show "The Secret Life of the American Teenager".

What pray tell does this latest turn of posts have ANYTHING to do with a Greek Forum? If your parents are Greek you won't become a teenage mother?

Can we please close this thread or move it to the off topic forum? I don't see what any of these past few posts have to do with "Greek Life".

Ooops, sorry. I forgot where I was. Mods please delete my comment since it has zero to do with Greek Life. Sometimes I type before I think.

LOL, Armywife you are not alone!!!:D

What difference does it make whether she is Preggy or not? She is supposed to marry the husband of her up coming child. Of course everyone here is agahast at her being pregnant:rolleyes:

She is not the first child in the world is she?

I posted this picture last night in the News section when the whole "Sarah Palin isn't trig's mom" controversy stopped on a lot of those blogs.

http://i35.tinypic.com/117egpk.jpg
It's a little hard to see though. But you can see Bristol's stomach going under Trig's butt and up against his legs.

ETA: it is speculated she's about 6-7 months (if not more).

:rolleyes:

Grandmother?
 

[quote=UGAalum94;1709678]And it just seems like on of those funny rumors that make less sense the more you think about it.

If you were faking a pregnancy to cover for your teenage daughter, wouldn't you make sure that you looked pregnant and talked about your pregnancy a lot?

Even Bree on Desperate Housewives wore a pillow under her clothes last season when her teenage daughter became pregnant!

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News reports are saying that Bristol is currently 5 months pregnant.

wait a minute, Sarah Palin's 44? I thought she was older than that, she looks older.

And I don't know who "Trig" and "Bristol" are but I am finding those names more troublesome than their parentage.

Weird, I think she looks about 44. I mean a good looking, real person 44, rather than celebrity 44.

Well, I know of kids named Bristol, Willow, Tripp, Trigg (mom's maiden name), Piper, etc. Not that strange to me. After all, we have lots of Dakotas, Brooklyns, etc. here. It's just not that out there to me.

Track, I will give you, is strange. They named him that b/c apparantly they both love to run.

well i love to eat, but i am not naming my child Buffet!

Your point in saying that is? I said it was strange.

Now honey, he's just kidding. ;)

And I don't think her daughter being pregnant affects my views of her at all. This race just needs to get out of the gutter it found its way into this weekend. Particularly since Barrack was born when his mom was 18, this isn't a fight the Dems need to get into or they'll come out looking hypocritical. Have they not yet realized that part of Republican politics is baiting them into doing something they'll regret later? (i.e. attack on experience or teen pregnancy when both apply to their own ticket as well)

Barack very sternly suggested that the media leave her family out, and even offered his own mother being 18 when she had him as an example of his own personal situation. The Dems are not attacking this issue, and if they are Obama does not condone it. Very smart play.

I didn't know baby was a hot button feminist word?

It is when it is meant as offensive and demeaning. That's definitely the way my dear friend, Tom, meant it.

Would I find it cool if a Kappa were on the presidential ticket? Sure. But it's not a deal-sealer or a deal-breaker. W is Greek, and IMHO that didn't do thing one to boost his presidency.

Even if McCain were a Phi Tau (my husband's affiliation) and/or Palin a Kappa, I wouldn't vote for them anyway. And I know a bunch of Republicans who feel the same way regarding Obama/Biden.

I don't know a single Theta who joined because of Sheryl Crow. I don't know a single Phi Tau who joined because of Paul Newman. If someone were rushing Kappa because of Ashley Judd I'd be suspicious and probably suggest that we cut her.

Point being, oldu, I don't find the lack of Greek letters on the Presidential ticket tragic at all. I think that it is what it is.

+1 to tippiechick for that scathing post to Tom. LMAO.

and just so im on-topic, i agree with most of what's been said so far.