i wouldn't say dumbest. top 10? maybe. but not dumbest.

Dios mío! (or My God! for those of you not familar w/SF lingo:p) are we ever going to get back to the original topic?:(

Thats what that means to everyone in the South. I don't know where the hell they are getting their information but it's certainly not accurate.

I wouldn't quite go so far as to say good ol' boys are "low class, white trash hicks." -- I've known quite a few good ol' boys in my time who would not fall into the "low class, white trash hicks" catagory. Rural, blue collar might be a better description than "trash" or "hicks."

But I do think there is a difference between good ol' boys and the good ol' boy network. In my experience, good ol' boy networks aren't necessarily made up of good ol' boys.

Well, you may call it something else but the sentiment is the same.

It's usually called the good ol' boy network or something to that effect. When people think of it they often think of Hollywood's depictions of the Ku Klan Klan and Southern white men (ETA: Some would be considered as "hicks" but whatever) who were allowed to literally or figuratively get away with murder because of who they know within a white niche. But as with almost everything, it isn't limited to the South (as MsFoxyLoxy said).

(Don't brag on that murder thing, btw.)

Good. It was pretty dumb. ;)

Incorrect.

Yes. You did. Good job. Puncuation is confusing.

It already is. We voted on it in 1988:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...tatutes#A02S09

LOL...Wow. I lived in Daytona Beach for 1 and 1/2 years and Miami for six (well I was split between Miramar...which is technically in Broward and North Miami Beach). I came up to Southwestern Pennsylvania in Dec. Whew! Am I glad I made it out boy! :D

People up here question why I left the Sunshine State to move to the Rust Belt. And I even miss Miami; I mean life just didn't stop there...always embarking on something new (and things change a lot). Plus the weather can't be beat. In fact, I think South Florida really has an edge over every other metro in the Southeast; well let me restate that..."has the potential" to have an edge.

In all honesty, what I think destroys South Florida is the people. They took something beautiful and stomped all over it. The politicians are ridiculous and like to run things like they did in their Caribbean or South American country they came from; ignorance is rampant...and people are almost proud of it :eek: ; selfishness is raised to an artform there; oh and did I mention that no one is happy? True people have a reason to complain...the money they make does not mate up well with the exploding costs of living. But that's because their bosses (also South Floridians most of the time) can give two $H!+s about you really. They'll just find someone else to do what you do.

I did not travel Florida all that much; but I assume it's more like the South (like what I experienced when living in West Virginia). If that's the case, then yeah, I'm sure Southerners are like "good riddance" to South Florida. I always felt we were a suburb of NYC anyway (maybe because of all the cheapo JetBlue fares up to NYC :D )

Not quite... The 'Not Much Better' city limits generally extend east of I-95 in northern Miami-Dade County from about 151st Street to the county line at 215th Street. Miramar is entirely within Broward County; its southern border is the Miami-Dade/Broward county line at NW 215th Street/SW 41st Ave. Carol City (or whatever the new independent city name is now) occupies the Miami-Dade side south of the county line to about Red Road (NW 57th Ave).

I grew up in both Hialeah and North Miami (GO PIONEERS!); at the time I was in high school in North Miami, the neighborhood and consequently the school population was predominantly white and Jewish; we had bagel sales, not bake sales. :D Many Yiddish slang words still pepper my conversation from time to time. (And I'm a lapsed Roman Catholic.)

I also lived in Miramar off Douglas Road; the balcony of our condo overlooked the 8th green and 9th tee of the Miramar golf course.

Fast forward about 10 years later and I could already see the demographics changing to a largely Haitian population. Much of western and southwestern Miami-Dade County was 'La Saguecera' (a Spanish phonetic corruption of 'southwest'), where rapid-fire Cuban-accented Spanish is the lingua franca. I'm fluent in both English and Spanish (though I speak it with a Venezuelan accent); but it takes me a second or two to shift gears and think and speak in Spanish whenever someone speaks to me in Spanish. When I start looking lost, they usually speak a little slower.

I haven't been back to South Florida except to visit or attend class reunions in over 25 years. I'm now a 'naturalized' citizen of the Republic of Texas. :p

I gotta agree; Miami's and South Florida's no longer for me. If I decide to return to Florida permanently it's probably around the Space Coast or northeast Florida area by St. Augustine.

The people in South Florida do seem to be very rude to me (for the most part.) They're a bunch of transplanted New Yorkers who view the rest of Florida as "dumb rednecks."

Yeah, they are (we are?) more rude than in other parts of Florida. I'm always kind of surprised at how polite and nice people are whenever I visit Naples or Orlando or Tampa, etc; and kind of wish people in South Florida were like that.

But whatever, I can only assume how different it is for someone who was raised outside of S.Fla to live here vs those of us that grew up here.

I'm used to going into restaurants and not being treated politely, the same way I'm used to not really talking to store attendants and being freaked out when people are so nice lol.

I don't know why it's like that, but it is. I don't think, however, that it's because of all the NY transplants; I've heard a lot of people who visit NY come back and say how they don't deserve that "rude people" stereotype. Either way I don't blame people from "outside" not liking the way South Floridians are- I have a lot of complaints myself... Especially with the way people drive here. But thats a whoooooole 'nother story.

Thats not a big deal at all. For example, TX has in its state charter that it can break into 5 states if it wants to. The worst that could happen is that electoral votes and districts will change and a new state capital with a govt will be instituted.