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alum 04-02-2008 08:54 AM

Tab was the only diet drink on the market for my first couple of years of college.

Theta gave out live goldfish at their Pref Night....much harder to deal with a fishbowl than a flower.

One of the Kappa moms made beautiful blue and white chocolate owl lollipops for our Pref Round. She drove them up from NC to Pittsburgh to hand-deliver them to our chapter so they wouldn't break.

SWTXBelle 04-02-2008 09:08 AM

Aren't moms the greatest during rush?

jon1856 04-02-2008 09:10 AM

FSU;
You just had to bring up rush:eek::D
As my chapter house was on the corner, we had three Sorority houses all around us.
And well we did not have numbers, we sort of talked among our selfs about that subject.
The one thing that to this day I remember is one Sorority's clapping and song;)

Zillini 04-02-2008 09:26 AM

Mid '80's at the U of Illinois

Big, big hair and shoulder pads. You could buy shoulder pads seperately to put them in a top that didn't have any or you just wanted to make them bigger. I remember wearing bright colored tank tops, a matching patterned big shirt over it with a wide drop belt. Skinny jeans or leggings tucked into scrunch boots with socks peeking out that matched the top. Neon was big too thanks to Wham's "Wake me up before you go-go".

Guys went for the Sonny Crockett look. Pastel shirts with a jacket. No socks and a couple of days worth of beard. Speaking of Miami Vice, Friday night watching was a mandatory event. Big groups of guys and girls would gather at fraternity houses to watch before heading out.

Pin attire meant hose & heels. The hose matched your outfit too so there were some pretty funky colors. Monday night's were Chapter meetings. You'd see tons of well dressed young women and men walking all over campus to their meetings. That was actually rather nice to see.

Pledge Walkouts. Drunken road trips to another campus that had a chapter of your GLO, often whichever football team you were playing that weekend. We'd bring sleeping bags and crash in their living rooms. There was a competition to see who could steal the most items with fraternity letters.

Monday nights meant Quarter Beers at O'Malleys. You could get smashed on only a few bucks. Every table tried to get the tallest stack of empty plastic cups. They played cheesy oldies and the whole place would sing along. Midnight meant it was time for "American Pie" and it was a badge of honor if you knew all the words.

alum 04-02-2008 09:39 AM

I forgot about television!

In the 80s: Hill Street Blues, Cheers, LA Law were all on. All of these shows had graduates from our CFA Drama Department either in front of or behind the camera so it was somewhat obligatory to watch. The big thing was when Blair Underwood (who was a dramat who took a leave of absence for Hollywood :) ) was cast as a boyfriend of Denice from the Cosby Show. Even the most nerdiest of us Tartans(and there were a lot who vied for that spot) watched that.

My H was both a cadet and a professor at West Point. When he was a student, the drinking age was lower in NY and consequently Ike Hall was the place to be for plebes through cows, complete with sticky floors. When we were there during his professor year in the late 90s, Ike Hall was dead.

I went to my daughter's college Parents Weekend last fall. This school's PW is bizarre in that parents actually go to fraternity parties on Friday and Saturday night. I hadn't experienced sticky floors in some time but the memories came flooding back.

honeychile 04-02-2008 10:38 AM

*Hoping there's a nursing home for greeks!*

I just want to say, "I remember that!" to so many things!

FSUZeta, that's how we sang the alphabet song, too - I think. Did it have a kind of beat to it, almost like an island beat? We used to do it with Jamacain accents at times. I've heard it sung/chanted a lot of ways, but that one's still my favorite.

Did anyone else have to do the "half clap"? Maybe it's because everyone clapping would have been much too loud in a suite, so about half the chapter clapped with 3 fingers lightly hitting the other palm.

When did Chapter Meetings go to Sundays, as opposed to Mondays? I miss that still.

nittanyalum 04-02-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1628005)
Pledge Walkouts. Drunken road trips to another campus that had a chapter of your GLO

We called these "bolts". They were the best! We'd kidnap our pledge master and some seniors (pulling them out of bed without notice, no hair, no makeup just straight onto the bus) and bolt! We'd also leave the suite and chapter floor a mess and be gone the entire weekend. :D

FSUZeta 04-02-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1627993)
FSU;
You just had to bring up rush:eek::D
As my chapter house was on the corner, we had three Sorority houses all around us.
And well we did not have numbers, we sort of talked among our selfs about that subject.
The one thing that to this day I remember is one Sorority's clapping and song;)


oh yes, the guys across the street from us knew all our rush songs and dances and on the friday of work week(when we had about had it with the rush chairman and all our sisters) we come tripping out of the front doors and the french doors, busby berkley style, to spy the guys across the street doing the exact same thing-well not the exact same thing, because they just had a single front door-but it was priceless and was just what we needed at that time, when all our nerves were frazzled and we were hating everything about rush.

and ya know something-they were pretty good!

FSUZeta 04-02-2008 01:21 PM

honey, no caribbean beat, but a definate beat (almost like a cadence), thru the alphabet part. it was a good choice for rush because it would definately stick in your head(and would not go away!)

RaggedyAnn 04-02-2008 02:37 PM

Phone chains and calendars.

No email. No cell phones.

jon1856 04-02-2008 02:41 PM

How could I forget "The Walk for Development"?:confused:
Started down on the lower end of 6th ave by the bridge.
Had a drink at every bar between there and chapter house.

As well as The Black Mug contest......:eek:

tallgreekalum 04-02-2008 03:07 PM

Alpha Delts click, we don't clap!:)
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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1628040)
*Hoping there's a nursing home for greeks!*

I just want to say, "I remember that!" to so many things!

FSUZeta, that's how we sang the alphabet song, too - I think. Did it have a kind of beat to it, almost like an island beat? We used to do it with Jamacain accents at times. I've heard it sung/chanted a lot of ways, but that one's still my favorite.

Did anyone else have to do the "half clap"? Maybe it's because everyone clapping would have been much too loud in a suite, so about half the chapter clapped with 3 fingers lightly hitting the other palm.

When did Chapter Meetings go to Sundays, as opposed to Mondays? I miss that still.


alum 04-02-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1628040)
When did Chapter Meetings go to Sundays, as opposed to Mondays? I miss that still.

Hmmm, we had Chapter Meetings on Sunday nights because Monday- Thursday were "School Nights" and we NEVER scheduled anything on an academic night.

My daughter is currently in college and they do have their chapter meetings on Monday evenings.

AnchorAlumna 04-02-2008 03:19 PM

OK, here's a pre-cell phone memory: PHONE DUTY!!:)
Our house had 1 phone number, 3 lines. Every pledge had to do phone duty, which meant answering the chapter phone and going to get the callee. Which was GREAT for getting to know who was who.:D
I remember the Georgia chapter house had a little alcove that included buzzers for individual rooms. You could pick up the phone on your floor...or come downstairs and meet your date.
At Alabama, we had a little room at the top of the stairs called the "Anchor Room," and it was the heart of the house. 2 phones, couches and a bench, with a full-length mirror outside in the hallway.
You'd hang out there with everybody else...smoking cigarettes:eek:...playing cards. Everybody with a date would try on different outfits and check themselves in the mirror...at which point everybody hanging out could express their opinion on the outfit!
At the end of the date, they'd come in, change clothes and come crash in the Anchor Room to report.
Good times!:p

AOIIalum 04-02-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1628040)
Did anyone else have to do the "half clap"? Maybe it's because everyone clapping would have been much too loud in a suite, so about half the chapter clapped with 3 fingers lightly hitting the other palm.

We didn't do that, but did anyone else "snap"? :p

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Originally Posted by RaggedyAnn (Post 1628159)
Phone chains and calendars.

No email. No cell phones.

Oh yeah. Don't forget the one big Fall Mailing with *everything* your chapter needed for the entire year (and don't lose a page of it either!) No computers either. Xerox copies of the calendars and typewritten chapter reports--in duplicate or triplicate, with carbon paper. This is one area that's MUCH better today, ladies!

AnchorAlumna 04-02-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 1628189)
Xerox copies of the calendars and typewritten chapter reports--in duplicate or triplicate, with carbon paper. This is one area that's MUCH better today, ladies!

Ah, the smell of mimeograph fluid!!:rolleyes:

jon1856 04-02-2008 03:40 PM

As a pledge, having to carry $1.55 in change as well as either a match or a lighter. And I did not smoke!!

ForeverRoses 04-02-2008 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=AOIIalum;1628189]We didn't do that, but did anyone else "snap"? :p
/QUOTE]

We snapped. Took me a couple years of going to work meetings to get out of the habbit of snapping when I agreed with something.

I remember open parties at the fraternity houses. only a few parties required you to be on the guest list. Most were open to any female. We had a board where people could list all the fraternity parties going on a particular weekend. Then we would pick and chose which ones to go to.

We also had fraternities that would host "after hours"- basically parties that didn't start until after the bars were closed.


Also, we called our mixers "Teas". So it would be announced for example that we had a tea with the Phi Taus on Thursday night at the Greenery from 6-9.

We also called the rush parties "teas" so we had open house, first teas, second teas, and final teas. I don't remember any tea ever being served.

33girl 04-02-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1628219)
I remember open parties at the fraternity houses. only a few parties required you to be on the guest list. Most were open to any female.

Yep. They kind of half heartedly started having "tickets" and such, but these didn't last long.

Theta Chi always had happy hours on Fridays. You went into the basement at 3:30 - came out at 6:30 w/ a buzz and with it still light out. Ugggggg.

breathesgelatin 04-02-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1628219)
I remember open parties at the fraternity houses. only a few parties required you to be on the guest list. Most were open to any female.

This still happens at some schools.

And I think a lot of chapters still snap--I know mine did occasionally as did others at W&L.

Zillini 04-02-2008 06:01 PM

How could I forget phone duty and wake up duty? Each active living in the house had an assigned code, like morse code. When they got a call on the house phone or a visitor you had to buzz their code. Long, long, short, short or whatever.

No alarm clocks were allowed in the sleeping dorms. Pledges (Yes, we were pledges!) with morning phone duty had to wake up actives. There was a board for each dorm with tags for each girl saying when she needed to be woken up. Heaven forbid you didn't wake an active up on time!!!

Benzgirl 04-02-2008 07:25 PM

We had phone duty too. That sister always answered the door.
Who could forget...."Jane, you have a visitor" (female) vs. "Susan, you have a guest" (male)?

FSUZeta 04-02-2008 07:31 PM

phone duty-i always enjoyed it. pledges did phone duty during the dinner hour, so they also got to open to door to various and sundry groups who wanted to make an announcement to the chapter during dinner. the dinner duty pledge could either eat earlier, or could have her meal in the downstairs phone room. each member had a cubbie in the phone room where she could receive her mail and notes/messages.

there were two phone lines for our house, and three phones-the phone in the phone room, a phone on the 2nd floor landing and one on the 3rd floor landing. luckily for the phone duty person, you merely buzzed upstairs and anyone would answer the buzz and either yell for the sister that she had a phone call or that she had a visitor downstairs. in house sisters rotated phone duty from 7 to 11 sunday thru thursday and the pledges rotated phone duty from 7 to 11 on friday and saturday nights. fun times.

MysticCat 04-03-2008 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OldAOPi (Post 1627668)
Animal House came out around then - so then we all had......TOGA PARTIES!!!

But everybody always tried to "personalize" their toga attire in some way.

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1627717)
Well, it took some chapters a LONG time to get rid of candles.

I still can't over learning here at GC that so many sororities have stopped using real candles.

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Originally Posted by BBelleADPi (Post 1627720)
Oh, my yes! Along with "Mrs. Grace," "39-21-40 Shape", "Myrtle Beach Days," "Johnny Dollar," "Monkey Time", "Far Away Places", "Rainy Day Bells","Little Red Book,"etc. I still listen to this music when I run! Billy Stewart, Georgia Prophets. (And BTW, this was still the music for all of us when hubby was in medical school. We still shagged, and still do to this day. Weddings are always fun!)

We do too. :D

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1628205)
As a pledge, having to carry . . . either a match or a lighter. And I did not smoke!!

With me, it was a book/box of matches. I liked the box matches better -- they burned a little more slowly.

33girl 04-03-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1628545)
But everybody always tried to "personalize" their toga attire in some way.

LOL. The Life Savers sheet was a very popular toga.

NutBrnHair 04-03-2008 09:44 AM

Sisters who smoked had to sit in the back of the room during Selection Session. (The only one smoking at the front table was our Rush Advisor!)

Denise_DPhiE 04-03-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 1628189)
We didn't do that, but did anyone else "snap"? :p

Yes - celebrating our chapters 20th anniversary this year (and I was a charter member) and have instituted snapping at our Junior League meetings. Only about 1/4 of our members were sorority women but they got the hang of it! Love snapping!!!

ISUKappa 04-03-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1628296)
How could I forget phone duty and wake up duty? Each active living in the house had an assigned code, like morse code. When they got a call on the house phone or a visitor you had to buzz their code. Long, long, short, short or whatever.

We still used the buzz system in the late '90s. Mine was long long long short. I never minded being phone dog (doing phone duty) because then I got the inside scoop on things. We had a board in an alcove in the entryway with everyones names on hooks and a little round tag that was white on one side (which meant you were in) or blue on the other (which meant you were out). That way you could look up and see if if the member was in before buzzing (that is, if they remembered to flip their tag - most didn't). It was fun to come home and see a little message stuck on your hook. Then we had an "all-house" buzz (hold down the button for about 20 seconds) to call everyone for a meeting, announcement or serenade)

We still did a lot of singing and serenading in my chapter, too. We always sang Kappa Grace in the stairway before meals and the door to the dining room didn't open until our House Mother was standing there. She was very big on teaching us proper etiquitte and I know how to "correctly" pass a water pitcher and not to "divorce" the salt and pepper.

When they had "open" parties, Fraternities would stop by every sorority and give a stack of copied invites to whomever answered the door. The theory was you had to have an invite to get in the party, but if you waited long enough or knew someone in the fraternity, you could usually get in.

More fun were the fraternity date parties/formals where they came and personally serenaded each girl who was invited. Some chapters had "their" serenade song that would get requested whenever they came to visit. I remember Pi Kapps did "The Fishy Song" (all the little fishies do the hootchie kootchie dance). Nothing like seeing 30 semi-drunk fraternity men dancing around to a preschooler's song. We were always requested to sing "Legs" and a few other unmentionable songs. I hope they still do as much serenading now as they did when I was in school 10 years ago. It was always so much to hear "So-and-so is serenading!" yelled down the halls and run down to the formal liv or dining room for the songs.

MaggieXi 04-03-2008 12:10 PM

Is 11 years ago back in the day? If its not, oh well, I really like this thread!

- We had real candles, pledges were pledges or "New Girls", Rush was still Rush, Rho Chis were still Rho Chis.

-Rush was becoming less frilly, but we still had "skit night" and were known for the best skit! The fraternity guys would sit outside during rush rotations and yell things at the rushees, rank them, and harrass them. This was perfectly acceptable.

-Rushees made their own "memorable" nametags and tried to outdue each other.

- Dirty rushing was common. We actually didn't know it was "dirty" until 1998.

- Pledges had to be sober sisters for at least one weekend for the actives. This ment sitting in the house waiting for the house phone to ring with some drunk active wanting you to pick them up.

- All the sorority women wore "I Love XYZ" or "110% XYZ" Buttons either on them or on their book bag.

- Monday all day was pin attire for all Greeks, Wensday was "organization day" and all greeks would wear their letters.

- Grunge was on its way out. So we wore "grunge clothes" during the day ("simple" clogs, babydoll tees with a flannel, overalls, oversized wool sweaters and hemp necklaces) for class and Brittney Spears-esque clothes at night (low-rise jeans were all the rage = lots of butt crack!, camis, tiny tees, black highheeled boots, short shorts and old navy flip flops). Noone ever carried a purse or hand bag.

- Everyone knew the words to MMMMBop, Spice Girls, TLC Songs, Christina Aguilara and whatever rap song that was that you dipped to the right and then rolled and ... When Britney would come on at the bar or at a house party, all the guys instinctly knew to move off the dance floor while the girls tried to mimick Brittany dance moves.

- All Greek women paint-penned anything that didn't have a pulse. I loved my paint-pens!

Yea, we were cool.

honeychile 04-03-2008 12:45 PM

Remembering:

-"I'm A Greek" buttons. The first time I saw one was on a friend of mine, and I thought, "I thought for sure that Paulette was French?"

-The Kappa house was catty-corner from the Baptist Church, and sat down to dinner to their bells.

-We had the In & Out markers, and the Chapter phone, too.

-t-shirts worn ONLY during Greek events, and in your own colors!!

-Pledge periods being roughly 3 months long and included much, much more material (more in depth on NPC - like being able to identify each pin, visiting at least one other chapter, pledge books, pledge songs)

33girl 04-03-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieXi (Post 1628663)
Noone ever carried a purse or hand bag.

This is the thing that strikes me the most when I'm back on campus. You absolutely, positively DID NOT carry a purse anywhere - if you saw someone carrying a purse, you knew they were a clueless freshman. It was the first thing people told you not to do once you got on campus. If you didn't have pockets, you carried everything in your key/ID holder. I remember literally not allowing one of the clueless new freshmen (when I was a sophomore) out of her dorm room until she promised not to carry her purse.

My cousin who went to school in like 1970 told me the same thing. I am guessing it's the cell phone that changed this. I still don't carry a purse to the bar if I can possibly help it.

SWTXBelle 04-03-2008 12:55 PM

In our pledge notebooks, we had to get information on all the NPC chapters at our campus. So I can still tell you all of the officers to every sorority in 1983.

No initiation till the following semester - you had to make your grades.

Buttons, buttons everywhere - or at least on your backpack. I had my 100% Gamma Phi, Sigma Chi is big in TEXAS (with a sigma for the "E") and getting bigger, My Guy's a Sigma Chi, College Republicans, and Boyington buttons.

A night time pre-initiation ceremony at San Marcos Hall - which back then was the original building for the San Marcos Baptist Academy. Imagine a big, Victorian-era building, with actives trying to make everything very spooooooooky.( Didn't work - pledges had to try very hard not to laugh) I'm sure it would be considered hazing now - but it doesn't matter, because they tore the building down to put in a parking lot.

ISUKappa 04-03-2008 01:05 PM

I don't think I started carrying a purse regularly until I started going to the bar, and even then it was a smaller purse. Everything got thrown into backpacks if we were on campus. If we were going to the bar, only ID, cash card, lip gloss, phone, money and cigarettes/lighter usually got put into the purse.

We were the last pledge class to have the last semester-long pledge program and to use real candles for ritual (though they were still used on the rare occasions we had a candle pass).

DeltAlum 04-03-2008 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1626705)
Surprisingly, I am a Pope!

As am/was I.

Once a Cardinal, always a Cardinal.

During the late 60's we still Lavaliered (I never knew how to spell that) then pinned, etc.

Besides many of the other things mentioned in posts above, a couple of things specific to my chapter/campus.

Allegedly, "Greek Week" originated at Ohio University. I can't prove that, but it's what I've heard for years.

In addition, we had J-Prom every year which included pretty elaborate skits that fraternities and sororities or fraternities and women's dorms put together, cinluding big sets, etc. These were performed outside and judged.

"Teas" was a code word for beer blast. ie: "Hey, we're having a Tea with the Pi Phis Friday..."

Then there was the (world famous?) Delt Regata where we put together really disreputable "rafts" and floated down the Hocking River.

And, of course, pledge pranks which we won't go into here.
(Well, except the the time we all stole a pair of our big brothers briefs, put their names on them and strung them from the pillars on the front of the Chi-O house...)

We had formal dinners when nobody sat down at the table until the house mother was escorted in by either the chapter or pledge president. We were taught table etiquite by "mom." That's where I learned which fork to use. Afterwards, we sang some of our great Delt songs.
(My favorite: "Delta, Delta Tau, loved fraternity. Hearts to true, true to you, burn with loyalty. Brothers, we stand as one, in our mystic vow. When, in health, we sing to thee, Dear Old Delta Tau.")

Most of us dressed for football games in sports coats, sweaters and ties and our dates wore skirts, sweaters, etc.

If we were pinned to sorority woman, she wore our badge as well as hers.

Almost all of our cars had our letter decals on the rear window, and if we had a Greek pinmate, often both sets of letters were displayed on our cars.

There's more, but finally we almost always dressed for class and wore our badges most of the time in public. When we weren't dressed appropriately for badges, we generally wore our letters on sports wear.

You know, some of those traditions wouldn't be so bad today.

nittanyalum 04-03-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1629007)
You know, some of those traditions wouldn't be so bad today.

Co-sign. It sounds like a lot of what I think of as real 'greek-y' traditions didn't make it into the 21st century...

DeltAlum 04-03-2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1629016)
Co-sign. It sounds like a lot of what I think of as real 'greek-y' traditions didn't make it into the 21st century...

Indeed.

I hadn't thought of serenading, but that was fun, too.

It was encouraging a few years ago (actually it was 9/10 -- yes, the day before) and I was a Division Vice President at the time and happened to be in Lincoln, NE on business.

I dropped by the Delt House and was invited to dinner, and sat at the head table with the House Mother, who was escorted in, etc. and we sat across from members of the pledge class throughout the meal. This is our most honored chapter, and I had the chance to say a few words of congratulations, etc. It stirred a lot of really nice memories.

Later that evening, I was invited to stay for initiation.

Very nice.

RaggedyAnn 04-04-2008 07:07 AM

Puffy paint was our best friend!

FirstAndFinest 04-04-2008 07:41 AM

Great thread!!

OH I forgot alll about phone duty!! We had 4 phones, one at each end of each floor in the dormitory-part of the house. Pledges had to hang around (and interview sisters) and answer the phones.

When I was living in the house, we had phone lines installed in each bedroom! However, the hall phones were not taken away - so sisters who had phones in-room would let the hall phones ring and ring... The worst was the sister(s) who would go away for the weekend (or the night ;)) and leave her ringer on (and of course, only a few girls had answering machines). I can remember some really bad chapter meetings where the topic of respect & telephones tested the bonds of sisterhood!!

I totally forgot about stiff stuff.... I'm gonna have to drag out some old photo albums this weekend....

AOII Angel 04-06-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1629007)
We had formal dinners when nobody sat down at the table until the house mother was escorted in by either the chapter or pledge president. We were taught table etiquette by "mom." That's where I learned which fork to use. Afterwards, we sang some of our great Delt songs.
(My favorite: "Delta, Delta Tau, loved fraternity. Hearts to true, true to you, burn with loyalty. Brothers, we stand as one, in our mystic vow. When, in health, we sing to thee, Dear Old Delta Tau.")

I fixed it for you! I once took a 1hr etiquette class in college to get my Junior level of hours after the first semester of my 2nd year in school. (I know you don't get anything for being a junior, but it seemed important at the time!:rolleyes:) One of my sisters took the class with me and could not understand why she made a "D" in "etiqwet" (her original pronunciation!) I swear she only made it to class once every couple weeks.

DeltAlum 04-06-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1630020)
I fixed it for you! I once took a 1hr etiquette class in college to get my Junior level of hours after the first semester of my 2nd year in school. (I know you don't get anything for being a junior, but it seemed important at the time!:rolleyes:) One of my sisters took the class with me and could not understand why she made a "D" in "etiqwet" (her original pronunciation!) I swear she only made it to class once every couple weeks.

You just can't trust people who don't take the time to look up words they're not sure how to spell, can you?


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