oh goodness! I know!!! I'm part of Phi Mu FRATERNITY since it was founded before Panhellenic or the word sorority was even founded! ADPi was also founded before all of this but their nationals changed them to a "sorority" I believe but my nationals wanted to keep the Phi Mu Fraternity tradition. it's insanity I'm also part of the AKPsi business frat so I'm a sister & brother in 2 frats.

2 of my friends just got initiated into SAI! they love it and both are in a npc too!

I thought Phi Mu didn't change from Philomathean Society until 1904, which was after the NPC was founded in 1902. The Adelphean Society didn't even become Alpha Delta Pi until 1905 (after being Alpha Delta Phi), and this is all after Gamma Phi Beta founded in 1874, and "sorority" came into use. I'm not following your logic.

Yes, Phi Mu remained as the Philomathean Society for some time before changing their name.

There is no logic there, sister.

sorry for not explaining. I believe our nationals chose to keep "fraternity" because the founding date of phi mu was earlier than the word sorority was created. so, they kept with the real founding date and not the name change. =)

I see what you're saying, but I think the missing logic comes from saying that "nationals chose to keep 'fraternity.'" Before the name change, wasn't it the Philomathean Society? That being the case, wouldn't it be that, given its founding date, Phi Mu chose to call itself a fraternity rather than to "keep" fraternity?

I guess nationals felt that since when you switch over to greek letters you're either a fraternity or sorority, they "kept" fraternity because if it would've been founded with greek letters, it'd be a fraternity. we're called women's fraternity, which is pretty funny to me, but that's how they want to keep it. and I mean "kept" also because I believe older orgs have changed from fraternity to sorority, not "keeping" fraternity, at least what I've heard.

The only "sorority" is Gamma Phi Beta, correct?

Nope. I know ADPi switched their name. There are a few more as well.

The list of NPC sororities and fraternities, as provided in the thread "Are you are fraternity, or a sorority?"

Per the list, the NPC has 15 fraternities and 11 sororities.

Dang! Thanks. I knew that was on here somewhere, but class took precedence over GC searches. (I know, I know)

That post says SK was founded as a fraternity. Which I've never seen any evidence of before. I believe it was simply Sigma Kappa at first. Though, I've never seen anything that said when sorority was officially added either. :)

It appears my point was previously discussed. :D http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...6&postcount=61

Where are your priorities?! :p

Does Zeta Beta Zeta already exist ?

There is not a NPC group named Zeta Beta Zeta.
There is not a NPHC group named Zeta Beta Zeta.
There is not a NIC group named Zeta Beta Zeta.

As for local groups, I couldn't say.


eta - never having watched "Greek", I didn't realize this was already a "fictional sorority". I'll bet someone has already appropriated the letters for a local! (Wonder if the production company thought to trademark it?)

We were the first - perhaps that is what you were thinking :).

Only got through the first few pages, but I just want to confirm that little detail. Alpha Lambda Tau was a mostly southern based fraternity of 8 chapters. In 1946 they announced that they were splitting up. 5 of those 8 chapters joined Tau Kappa Epsilon. (They were University of Maryland, North Carolina State, Auburn, Louisiana Tech, and Tri-State College in Indiana.)

At the current time I believe Alpha Sigma Kappa - Women in Technical Studies is the only ASK. However, over time it has become apparent to me that there were at least 2 other ASK's prior to our founding in 1989. I think they were both honor societies. There may have been more, but I have not been able to find anything about them. (Have seen pins on ebay from these other groups as well.)

Hmmm...
 

Interesting -- I'd love to know what happened to my Dad's chapter of Alpha Lambda Tau. He was President of the University of Chattanooga chapter in 1939.

So I just did a random google search of "Alpha Sigma Tau, house" to see if I could find pictures of any AST houses from other chapters. I came across this photo album.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lN_tpMS0D4s/R9gl9scZDZI/AAAAAAAAABc/yCToeUUYQOQ/Furhmann.jpg&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CIky45Q-BZudxIwKYPLP-w&h=483&w=278&sz=17&hl=en&start=1&usg=__lRuKLva9_C 4sCI3nizHafovCmyA=&tbnid=vMHFjVn9rFKN8M:&tbnh=129& tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpsi%2Bchapter%2Bfounder%26gbv%3D2%26h l%3Den

http://thetachiuw.org/History_1915.htm

Turns out it's an album of the start of the Psi chapter of the Theta Chi Fraternity at the University of Wisconsin. It originally started as the Aota Club in 1915, and in 1916, they became the Alpha Sigma Tau Fraternity and were known as such for 2 years.

I love looking at the pictures, too. My favorite is the fact that in 1957 the chapter had a Playboy Party, and it was actually written about IN Playboy! haha

What a neat find! Thanks ASTalumna06!

The first photo is so cool! (I can tell exactly where he's standing too....)

Those are such cool pictures! I love old stuff like that and I def have a soft spot for those Theta Chis!

Ok, I can't take credit for this (my ex did it):

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/phot...69428_3674.jpg
"Theta Chi: New Century, Same Great Style"

There are so many sororities and fraternities out there. The one I'm in is really new so when they came up with a name they just used 4 letters. We get some looks for it and ordering stuff online is a pain, but we don't have to worry that we've copied someone. Perhaps more groups should start trying that.

Doron
Sigma AEPi

^^^ Isn't that the sorority from MTV's Sorority Life?

Right. But the real irony is:

And Doron..... it's not personal. Trust me. :)

I guess it's time for them to go back to the drawing board.

I think that they are a colony (see her sig) of the SAEPi from Sorority Life, which has added several chapters since the show aired. :) She meant "they" as in "the original founding girls in the chapter at Berkeley."

That's what I originally thought, but didn't see anything on the SAEPi website about that colony. It's on Wikipedia now, though.

MANY thanks to oldu for letting me know that the ALT chapter at UC became Pi Kappa Alpha!

names and symbols are used often....
 

Kappa Alpha Psi resembles Kappa Alpha
Alpha Phi Alpha resembles Alpha Phi Fraternity (for women) and
Omega Phi Alpha...well, they must not know that Sigma Gamma Rho's use the yellow tea rose as it's flower and blue and gold as it's colors....

Um, what?

Right. Somebody's really reaching.

OPA's colors are light blue, dark blue, and gold. But I've noticed that a lot of organizations share the same colors as others. Alpha Xi Delta has the same colors as OPA and Sigma Gamma Rho (if SGRho's are the two different blues and gold as well).

As you may also notice, that Alpha Phi Omega and Omega Phi Alpha also share the same three leadership principles. APO played a very big part in creating OPA.

What is your obsession all about? Seriously.:rolleyes:

A lot of organizations share the same colors, and a lot share the same kinds of flowers. Nothing is really original, and most organizations pick the colors and the flowers they did to represent them because of the meaning behind them and what it would bring to that organization, not to flat out copy another.

We share the same name (and nickname) as a regional sorority based out of PA. I believe we were founded about 20 or so years earlier and we are not linked to them. In the guest book archive from our old website you could see a few of their sisters have written to us and left their contact information but this was before I was a sister so I have no clue if we contacted them or not.

I was just going to ask if you knew this, as I thought you were them till I saw your other posts!! :)

My favorite fraternity is Beta Phi Omega, a local founded in '67. Their letters now appear to belong to a black lesbian sorority founded in 2000. http://www.betaphiomega.net/ ...I'm not really sure. I know our boys are thinking about going national, so I don't know how that will work.

I actually had someone PM me about this before asking the year we were founded and saying that our website needed to be updated since it says we were established in 1966.

I believe some of our sisters meant some of theirs at NGLA last year. I mean, it's no big deal since we barely cross paths and I doubt their founders did it intentionally, it's not like they were able to google the name back then lol.