Because you have lied before. And all we know is what YOU tell us. Don't forget how suspicious everyone was on PP when you broke the "story."

I am going to chalk all of this up to your Asperger Syndrome. You even said yourself it is what causes your behavior.

That brings up another point. As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world? There is a genetic disposition especially connected to the father.

LG, you are in the KAPPA forum responding to posts addressed to KAPPAS!! You are in NO position to accuse any brother of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity of anything, especially since the thread wasn't directed to you to begin with.

I won't even dignify that with an answer, especially considering how incredibly pompous and arrogant that sounded

Then when you created the thread you should have said this is directed to Kappas only. You didn't seem to have a problem with non-Kappas offereing you sympathy even though the thread wasn't directed to them.

And I am in a position to say whatever I want to say on a message board that is open to the public.

Arrogant and pompous? Oh that's right--misuse of words, etc.

Um, notice the lack of _____s in this thread.

Then go find a Kappa private board and post it there. GC isn't private.


I happen to think that it's an extremely valid question, and that it deserves an answer.

I'm curious about your source for that ladygreek. Not that I'm challenging you -- it just is more specific than anything I've seen. I know it seems clear that there are genetic components to AS, and I know that AS is more commonly diagnosed in males. But I haven't seen any research specifically linking AS to the father's side genetically.

I will agree with RM, though -- I think the question is out of line. People risk passing along genetic predispositions all the time -- why suggest that men with AS shouldn't even "consider" having kids? It's not like AS is a terminal illness or debilitating birth defect. As the father of an Asperger's kid, I can assure you that I think the world is better off because he's in it, and had we known before he was born that he would have AS, it wouldn't have made any difference, except that we would have learned more about it sooner. Yes, he faces some challenges that most other kids don't have to deal with, but he brings some wonderful gifts and perspectives that most other kids don't as well.

Perhaps someone with AS would consider bring a child into the world because they know that it's not the end of the world to have AS. Besides, dad will know how it feels and can help the kid learn what he needs to know.

Thank You!!!!! This is the internet...no one here feels inclined to be 'in line' or 'in their place'. This is why ppl need to stop trying to make real friendships/bonds on the net. Keep your business to yourself and share your life w/real ppl that you actually know...otherwise you are just opening yourself up to ridicule and judgment from ppl who neither know nor care about you.

what I said has to do with the fact that you stated--it is more commonly diagnosed in males, thus there is a greater chance of the link being the father.

And please don't personalize this discussion. You are comparing apples to oranges here.

...about the most profound statement in this entire thread.

QFT

I think you're the one comparing apples to oranges. Just because it's more commonly diagnosed in males =/= "a genetic disposition connected to the father." Baldness occurs most often in males, but it's a genetic trait passed down through the mother.

And I'm sorry if you think I'm personalising this discussion. I realize that there are other dynamics at play in this particular thread and with RM. Still, though, I stand by what I said. I think the question you asked -- "As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world?" -- was out of line and bordered on offensive. And as I think you would agree, we are both in a position to say whatever we want to say on a message board that is open to the public.

Without picking a side because I'm trying to stay away from this trainwreck altogether I just wanted to say yay, MC is back! I thought you'd gone somewhere and was worried I'd be the first solo player on TAR... ;)

:confused: :confused: :confused:

And by the way, since I'm here, KAP, I just want to say you're being unbelievably cavalier and do seem to be enjoying all of this a little too much if you're really going through what you say you're going through... it's making my stomach turn.

The moderators are here to ensure that posts are not "obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws"...not to ensure that ppl are nice to one another. If LG was out of line, then I am sure that your 'Brothers' would have deleted her post or corrected her.

**looks around** Nope, just you standing out on that limb by yourself.

That was for MysticCat, not you.

The thread ceased to center around you for ONE post. DEAL WITH IT.

Just wanted to quote the important part of that post.



**ok, really I'm going to get some work done now**

Nittany, frankly I'm pissed off to the Nth degree. I am not enjoying this at all. If I am coming off as cavalier, it's probably because it is all I can do to keep from seriously cussing some folks here out.

I was about to cut and paste the emails I received as proof of the news and all the flak I have been taking from my ex's family, but I decided not to because I don't owe ANYBODY here an explanation for anything.

I am resisting the urge to tell my dissenters where they can go, but I won't because I know that that place is very much real, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, much less a bunch of otherwise harmless e-trash talkers.

I am not enjoying this one bit, and that is for real! I am seriously pissed off right now.

I'd feel better if you did this. (full headers including IP addresses & date/time stamps) If you really want everyone to believe you and stop doubting you, then put it out there. Because if it is true, you're right, you have every right to be pissed off and I wouldn't hesitate to put the proof out there if I were in your shoes. You will get sympathy at least from those of us who know where that grief lies. But if this does turn out to be a bunch of hooey, you better drop to your knees and start to pray because I'm not sure even God will be able to save your sorry soul then...

To your first sentence: while I know Wiki is not always the best source, many times it is. This is the statement I read there: Asperger described common symptoms among his patients' family members, especially fathers, and research supports this observation and suggests a genetic contribution to Asperger syndrome.

To your second paragraph: so noted.

The reason why I haven't was because it really won't convince the dissenters, it will only open other doors for them to make other unrelated personal attacks later.

Have you noticed that the biggest dissenters have been the most offensive towards me? That isn't a coincidence, they have an personal axe to grind, and this is NOT the time or the place.

Yeah, I can post the emails, but all that would happen is that the dissenters would pick it apart and overanalyze or read into some trivial detail(s), which would only make for some other nonsense to flame me on later, and right now I am NOT in the mood for such.

^^^Yeah, I was afraid you were going to come back with something like that...

You know, if you'd just stop posting, you'd do a lot to convince people that you're not just attention whoring.

You KNEW there'd be people who either flat out didn't believe you, or would at least question your story (especially since, from what I have heard, it doesn't quite line up with the story you gave on another board) so why even start the thread here? You can't convince me that you weren't attention whoring, even if the story happens to be true.

Right--personalized to you, not MysticCat.

I know this is a difficult concept for you, but THIS IS A PUBLIC WEBSITE, and the KAPPA forum is open for ANYONE to post in.

Like I said before, notice the lack of ____s in this thread.

Bottom line, either you believe me or you don't. I am not going to get into a battle over the validity of the thread topic because I don't owe anyone here an explanation for anything, especially considering how out of pocket some folks have been in how they approached me.

If you don't want to believe me, then fine, don't. Just express your dissent somewhere else.

I swear, this is about as bad as the Phelps family picketing funerals of US troops. You don't have to agree with the war or the US military, but you shouldn't be intentionally disrespectful to the family of the deceased either.

Don't even act like you're on that level - you're not.

WTH???? What's with bringing the Phelps nutsos into this?

Ok, like someone said before, then just shut up about it already. And don't post your "strolling" pictures or make slimy comments about a woman's picture if you really need sympathy in your time of grief. I'll keep praying for the mom, if there is one....

Oh, thanks for missing me! I just hate it when traveling for work gets in the way of GC. :D

If the shoe fits, wear it. 'Nuff said.

Several things:

One, yes I did go to a party after I heard the news and posted a pic on it. I did it to take my mind off the loss. YEAH I DID IT (and I'll do it again if I think I need to) and if anybody has a problem with it, too bad!!

Two, what slimy comment about a woman's picture did I make? :confused:

Three, if your prayers for mine and my ex's loss are going to be half-hearted, or out of snarkiness or mean-spiritedness, save your time and efforts. I don't want them, and the Lord won't receive them (and you're making a mockery of God's true spirit of prayer).

Helloooo -- laptop with wireless, don't leave home without it again! ;)

Jason,
Quit PMing me. Just say what you have to say on the board.

Dear Senusret I,

KAPital PHINUst has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - I lost my son KAP Jr. - in the Kappa Alpha Psi forum of GreekChat.com Forums.

This thread is located at:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...6&goto=newpost

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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---Quote (Originally by ladygreek)---
Jason,
Quit PMing me. Just say what you have to say on the board.

---End Quote---

NO!!

The PM feature is there for a reason.

so is this true or not?

Hello, I love you.

That is all.:D

^^^^ wow, did he delete his post that quickly? Oh well, I guess I'll get another PM.