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Taualumna 01-04-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005 (Post 1574306)
I completely disagree. I am NO Britney fan, but I do think it's still possible for her to bounce back from this. The news is now reporting that she has bipolar disorder, which is a very real mental health issue, but one she can overcome. It is possible to lead a productive and functional life with bipolar disorder, but she has to receive the help she needs from a proper professional. To tell you the truth, I suspected bipolar disorder from the beginning, since (and I know this is weird) my mother was bipolar, and shaved her head once (yes, crazy, I know). I know that's not any real basis for a mental health diagnosis, but her behavior is very similar to what I remember my mother being like. My mother also, unfortunately, lost custody of all of her children, too, so I know this must be very difficult for Britney, if she is really bipolar. Just my two cents.:o


But in order to remain okay, people with bipolar have to take meds. Knowing Britney, she's not take the meds when she's supposed to, which means she'll probably stay the way she is. And that means she won't ever see her kiddies.

nittanyalum 01-04-2008 10:01 PM

^^^She's obviously self-medicating in place of getting real medical (or if necessary, mental) help. I agree with the post that said she's hurtling down the path that will not have her celebrating Christmas, 2008. And honestly, when I first saw this morning the line "Britney rushed to hospital", my first thought was, she finally overdosed. It's coming, if this isn't what turns her around.

Benzgirl 01-04-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005 (Post 1574306)
I completely disagree. I am NO Britney fan, but I do think it's still possible for her to bounce back from this. The news is now reporting that she has bipolar disorder, which is a very real mental health issue, but one she can overcome. It is possible to lead a productive and functional life with bipolar disorder, but she has to receive the help she needs from a proper professional. To tell you the truth, I suspected bipolar disorder from the beginning, since (and I know this is weird) my mother was bipolar, and shaved her head once (yes, crazy, I know). I know that's not any real basis for a mental health diagnosis, but her behavior is very similar to what I remember my mother being like. My mother also, unfortunately, lost custody of all of her children, too, so I know this must be very difficult for Britney, if she is really bipolar. Just my two cents.:o


Bi Polar and Substance Abuse. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

I agree with you that many of her most recent actions were manic: Shaving off the hair, beating the SUV with an umbrella, ranting like she had ADAD. The super-human grandiosity: firing an assistant for not picking up her hat, acting condecending in court, missing court dates. The depression has been evident all along (i.e. the trailor trash video).

But, when did the substance abuse begin and did it ignite someone who was already predisposed to mental illness?

All I know is that she needs help, the kids need to be in a healthy environment and someone needs to tell her 'no' for a change.

ETA: I've never been a fan of hers either.

honeychile 01-04-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smiley21 (Post 1574312)
Right now I think the fans are a part of the problem- directly and indirectly. Britney really doesn't know anything else but the spotlight, so she craves it. She needs to understand how to separate herself from it. I know that is now difficult living in L.A. So she needs to move elsewhere and put her life back together. To Britney, L.A. = hell. She needs to get out. I honestly believe that if she does not do something drastic to better herself, she will not make it to the end of 2008.

I can see the rationale behind this. Her mental health issues are only making the poor parenting, poor driving, poor decision making and poor life choices more difficult. I hope no one here can even begin to imagine what it must be like to be in her head - it must be hell. The best thing that could happen to her is some serious time away from Hollyweird, a commitment to supervised medication, and then, slowly but surely introducing her (reinvented) self back to her kids. Strangely, I feel sorry for what she's become.

honeychile 01-04-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1574372)

But, when did the substance abuse begin and did it ignite someone who was already predisposed to mental illness?

I'll bet Mama Spears knows. Britney wouldn't be the first starlet whose mother introduced her to the wonderful world of pharmacopia.

ETA: Weren't both Judy Garland and Annette Funicello also introduced to drugs early in their careers?

texas*princess 01-04-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1574372)
All I know is that she needs help, the kids need to be in a healthy environment and someone needs to tell her 'no' for a change.

ETA: I've never been a fan of hers either.


Based on everything we've heard in the news over the last year, everyone who told her 'no' was fired or exiled from her life when they did.

It's really sad that her losing her kids gradually over the last year wasn't enough for her to get the kind of help she needed.

Benzgirl 01-04-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1574407)
Based on everything we've heard in the news over the last year, everyone who told her 'no' was fired or exiled from her life when they did.

*shrug* So goes life in LA LA Land.:confused:

Thetagirl218 01-04-2008 11:24 PM

Britney is Crazy.......

Enough said.... :)

ZTABullwinkle 01-05-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1574096)
If he won't, I'm sure Allona the Troll might.

*snerk* :p

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1574451)
Britney is Crazy.......

Enough said.... :)

^^^Yep, you pretty much nailed that on the head.

ZTAngel 01-05-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1574381)
I'll bet Mama Spears knows. Britney wouldn't be the first starlet whose mother introduced her to the wonderful world of pharmacopia.

ETA: Weren't both Judy Garland and Annette Funicello also introduced to drugs early in their careers?

Not sure about Annette but I know that Judy Garland was given drugs by MGM. She was given an upper during the day so that she wouldn't be tired and the studios could get as much work out of her as possible. At night, they gave her a narcotic so that she could sleep. I believe they gave her the drugs before she turned 18.

Not sure if this is the same case with Britney. As much as I think Disney is a sleazy corporation, I can't imagine them giving drugs to their employees at a young age.

Benzgirl 01-05-2008 11:33 AM

ZTABullwinkle,

Love your signature. Been attacked by the Bumpus Dogs lately?

ZTABullwinkle 01-05-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1574667)
ZTABullwinkle,

Love your signature. Been attacked by the Bumpus Dogs lately?

I hope they got worms from eating my turkey that wasn't cooked yet! ;)

Thanks!

Benzgirl 01-05-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTABullwinkle (Post 1574678)
I hope they got worms from eating my turkey that wasn't cooked yet! ;)

Thanks!

Here's to the Christmas Goose in a Chinese Restaurant!
http://achristmasstoryhouse.com/

ZTABullwinkle 01-05-2008 01:07 PM

Hijack
 
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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1574688)
Here's to the Christmas Goose in a Chinese Restaurant!
http://achristmasstoryhouse.com/

Waiter #1, Waiter #2, Waiter #3: [singing] Deck the halls with boughs of horry, ra ra ra ra ra, ra ra ra ra.
Chop Suey Palace Owner: No, no, not 'ra ra ra ra', 'la la la la'! Try again.
Waiter #1, Waiter #2, Waiter #3: Deck the halls with boughs of horry, ra ra ra ra ra, ra ra ra ra.
Chop Suey Palace Owner: No, no! Sing something else.
Waiter #1, Waiter #2, Waiter #3: Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh what fun it is to ride in a one-horse open sreigh!


Have you noticed after the goose is delivered how the entire family is in hysterics during the movie? Somehow I don't think that is in the script.

Benzgirl 01-05-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTABullwinkle (Post 1574699)
Have you noticed after the goose is delivered how the entire family is in hysterics during the movie? Somehow I don't think that is in the script.

I've wondered about that myself.

Back to Brit-Brit

smiley21 01-05-2008 05:26 PM

So apparently Britney was released today after 24 hours of her 72 hour hospital hold. They said that she was no longer a threat to herself or others. ...yeah okay, why do I think that was a mistake of the hospital? I am so sick of these celebrities not facing the full responsibility. That is why they are so messed up.

Munchkin03 01-05-2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1574381)
I'll bet Mama Spears knows. Britney wouldn't be the first starlet whose mother introduced her to the wonderful world of pharmacopia.

ETA: Weren't both Judy Garland and Annette Funicello also introduced to drugs early in their careers?


I've NEVER heard anything connecting Annette Funicello to any drug use! Even a Google search didn't bring up anything. I would be shocked...and it's hard for any celebrity news to shock me.

As trashy as the Spears family seems to be, it would surprise me if Lynn had anything to do with introducing her daughters to drugs. When you're in your teens and 20s, it's nearly impossible in some circles NOT to be around drugs and alcohol with your peer group.

Benzgirl 01-05-2008 07:02 PM

Unbelievable
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/...0-a15a9c04f981

Unregistered- 01-05-2008 07:19 PM

Regardless of whatever disease she's suffering from -- no drug, no intervention, no life coach and comfort from her "loved" ones will work unless Britney decides for herself that she's willing to ask for help.

Without willingness, she'll just continue on this path of destruction and I'm sorry, I just can't be sympathetic to that.

SigKapAngel767 01-05-2008 07:52 PM

kathykd, Thank you for your sharing about your Mom. It takes a lot of courage to share experiences with mental illnesses. You rock!

I no longer care for Britney as an artist. But, I care for her as a fellow human being. I pray for her recovery (recovery from mental illness IS possible). I pray for her two sons, as I'm sure life is extremely confusing for them right now. I pray she gets the help she needs to be a good mother and to be an important part of their lives, and an integral part of society. If anything, this occurrence might give people the courage to receive treatment.


ETA: Mental illness is something that happens to a person. They do not choose to be mentally ill. She might be so sick, she may not understand what she's doing (Don't shoot me! Just saying and being an advocate! I worked at a nonprofit for clients with mental illness)

honeychile 01-06-2008 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1574918)
I've NEVER heard anything connecting Annette Funicello to any drug use! Even a Google search didn't bring up anything. I would be shocked...and it's hard for any celebrity news to shock me.

My bad. It was another celebrity, who is a good friend of Annette Funicello's, and even her early drug abuse is 50/50 - she won't state a definite yes or no, even after suffering a somewhat defining drug abuse illness.

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As trashy as the Spears family seems to be, it would surprise me if Lynn had anything to do with introducing her daughters to drugs. When you're in your teens and 20s, it's nearly impossible in some circles NOT to be around drugs and alcohol with your peer group.
When I was in middle- and high school, I knew a lot of theatre people. Quite a few of their parents introduced them to speed, so they could handle stage shows AND still be at school. Looking back, I'm amazed at how young some of these girls were - maybe nine or ten years old.

But you're right - in many circles, it's almost impossible to avoid contact with drugs or alcohol, even at an early age. Plus, you have a generation of parents who can't say that they never inhaled (honestly, at least).

texas*princess 01-06-2008 01:23 AM

Mama and Papa Spears to appear on Dr. Phil's show on Tuesday
 
I'm not sure what good it will do... but uhhh yea.

Dr. Phil visits Britney, wants to have television intervention

SWTXBelle 01-06-2008 11:48 AM

At this point, it can't hurt. And maybe the fact that he is a celebrity will give him some standing with Britney - I don't know. It's just so sad for those poor little boys.

nittanyalum 01-06-2008 01:41 PM

Ok, but why, when my browser opened, were the first 3 links under "Entertainment" stories about Britney's DAD, MOM and DR. PHIL?!?!?! They just can't stop exploiting her, even in her darkest hour, can they? Sick sick sick.

33girl 01-06-2008 07:46 PM

As far as Judy Garland was concerned, it is a very similar situation, with an additional complication - her father was gay and in the closet and while her mother was on the one hand milking Judy for all she could get, on the other hand I think she believed that she was doing the right thing in keeping her away from a troubled home life, even if things at the studio were stressful. Remember, back then no one knew diet pills and tranquilizers were addicting. This was the middle of the Depression - half the country didn't have a job, let alone one at a movie studio. You didn't look a gift horse in the mouth, you shut up and did what you were told.

Britney's parents have all that information available and they should have stepped in after the 24 hour (or however long it was) marriage to that Jason guy and made her GET HELP. IMO that was the beginning of all the craziness. At this point, I think she would have to be given an adult caretaker (if there is such a thing) because her family hasn't shown any inclination or ability to help her.

honeychile 01-06-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1575336)
As far as Judy Garland was concerned, it is a very similar situation, with an additional complication - her father was gay and in the closet and while her mother was on the one hand milking Judy for all she could get, on the other hand I think she believed that she was doing the right thing in keeping her away from a troubled home life, even if things at the studio were stressful. Remember, back then no one knew diet pills and tranquilizers were addicting. This was the middle of the Depression - half the country didn't have a job, let alone one at a movie studio. You didn't look a gift horse in the mouth, you shut up and did what you were told.

Britney's parents have all that information available and they should have stepped in after the 24 hour (or however long it was) marriage to that Jason guy and made her GET HELP. IMO that was the beginning of all the craziness. At this point, I think she would have to be given an adult caretaker (if there is such a thing) because her family hasn't shown any inclination or ability to help her.

I didn't know the full story behind Judy Garland - my gosh, no wonder she was a mess, and her daughter seems to be right behind her. Good judgment is/was not their closest friend.

And totally, totally agree about that first marriage. It was such a scream for mental help, and everyone just rode on the wagon with her, rather than let her get the help she needed so badly.

texas*princess 01-13-2008 04:33 PM

wtf?
 
I'm not going to lie.

I have a closet full of clothes and there are times when I open up the closet and think to myself, "I have nothing to wear!!!"

I usually will throw some random outfit on... but uhhhh Britney's random outfit is.... not exactly "street wear"

Britney's 2004 Vintage look

Benzgirl 01-13-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1579993)
I'm not going to lie.

I have a closet full of clothes and there are times when I open up the closet and think to myself, "I have nothing to wear!!!"

I usually will throw some random outfit on... but uhhhh Britney's random outfit is.... not exactly "street wear"

Britney's 2004 Vintage look

I second WTF

sunnyhibiscus 01-15-2008 03:05 AM

Wasn't she wearing that dress this weekend when she went car shopping?

smiley21 01-16-2008 08:06 PM

So apparently Britney is trying to get pregnant again to "replace" the kids that she is loosing. Say it isn't so.

http://www.ok-magazine.com/news/view/3867

nittanyalum 01-16-2008 08:13 PM

That would be sick, sick, sick. I think they're messing with everyone. It's not like they weren't fully aware their picture was being taken. Why can't that girl just SIT AT HOME for a spell? (besides the fact the tiny voices in her head won't let her)

SSS1365 01-18-2008 02:30 PM

I read on another message board that there is photographic evidence that she's not pregnant. Here's a link if you want to see it. I haven't seen it myself because I'm at work, but I've heard that it's not pretty.

http://tinyurl.com/27wkk2

SOPi_Jawbreaker 01-18-2008 03:17 PM

I had heard that the papparazzi that took those shopping-for-pregnancy-test pictures were from the same agency that Adnan works for. So it may be Brit in cahoots with the papparazzi...like how she used to do two outfit changes a day so they could sell more pics of her.

ZTABullwinkle 01-18-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SSS1365 (Post 1583504)
I read on another message board that there is photographic evidence that she's not pregnant. Here's a link if you want to see it. I haven't seen it myself because I'm at work, but I've heard that it's not pretty.

http://tinyurl.com/27wkk2

Not pretty, and definitely not pregnant. YUCK! :eek:

texas*princess 01-18-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1583524)
I had heard that the papparazzi that took those shopping-for-pregnancy-test pictures were from the same agency that Adnan works for. So it may be Brit in cahoots with the papparazzi...like how she used to do two outfit changes a day so they could sell more pics of her.

Yea - I've heard that the guy's agency is getting all kinds of money for "exclusive" pictures

DaemonSeid 01-22-2008 09:01 AM

The Body isn't even dead yet....
 
US Magazine has the obit already set up....

http://www.usmagazine.com/exclusive_...pears_obituary

mu_agd 01-22-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1585502)
US Magazine has the obit already set up....

http://www.usmagazine.com/exclusive_...pears_obituary

I believe it's actually the AP that has it written, not US Magazine.

AlethiaSi 01-31-2008 10:33 AM

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=17271605

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LOS ANGELES January 31, 2008, 09:09 am ET · Britney Spears was taken from her home by ambulance early Thursday and escorted to a hospital by more than a dozen police officers as two helicopters followed overhead.
A Los Angeles police officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the matter, said the 26-year-old pop star was being taken to "get help" but did not give the ambulance's destination. The Los Angeles Times, citing unidentified authorities, said Spears was taken to UCLA Medical Center to be placed on a "mental evaluation hold." Center spokesman Mark Wheeler declined to comment to The Associated Press, citing privacy laws.

BetteDavisEyes 01-31-2008 10:53 AM

I really feel sorry for her. Her life is so effed up right now.

nikki1920 01-31-2008 10:58 AM

I want her to go AWAY somewhere, with no photogs, and just get herself together.


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