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Velocity_14 09-20-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1523561)

I started replying to that thread on 5 different occasions; we're >>here<<.


It is ridiculous!! My cousin (who is also a sheriff in a small town in Miss.) came to visit me on labor day and said that at a leadership seminar he went to, the instructor (who happens to be caucasion) said that people don't change they just adapt. I just keep hearing that over and over in my head because it is the truth...at least to me. Some of the comments that have been made has just had me sitting over here looking real crazy! But sometimes you can't change stupidity...it has to work itself out. Wheeeew, soror, I am just so sick and tired of this nonsense! It just amazes me how selective people's listening and reading skills can be...let me stop because I am starting to get mad...lol. I should have left to go to Walmart an hour ago and I'm still sitting on this computer...lol

mmbrown23 09-20-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Velocity_14 (Post 1523589)
It is ridiculous!! My cousin (who is also a sheriff in a small town in Miss.) came to visit me on labor day and said that at a leadership seminar he went to, the instructor (who happens to be caucasion) said that people don't change they just adapt. I just keep hearing that over and over in my head because it is the truth...at least to me. Some of the comments that have been made has just had me sitting over here looking real crazy! But sometimes you can't change stupidity...it has to work itself out. Wheeeew, soror, I am just so sick and tired of this nonsense! It just amazes me how selective people's listening and reading skills can be...let me stop because I am starting to get mad...lol. I should have left to go to Walmart an hour ago and I'm still sitting on this computer...lol

Hey sistergreek, I'm from MS. What is the name of the town in MS (if you don't mind me asking)?

AKA2D '91 09-20-2007 04:49 PM

UPDATE: The LA court has ordered a review in Bell's case. Tell me those numbers and the attention drawn to the case hasn't affected anything.


Didn't know Ice Cube's dad is from Chattam, LA. A small town in Northern LA...not too far from Jena. Yes, Cube and his wife and kids are there.

CrimsonTide4 09-20-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1523673)
UPDATE: The LA court has ordered a review in Bell's case. Tell me those numbers and the attention drawn to the case hasn't affected anything.


Didn't know Ice Cube's dad is from Chattam, LA. A small town in Northern LA...not too far from Jena. Yes, Cube and his wife and kids are there.

I remember hearing that Cube put together buses to leave from Cali to Jena.

That's great news!!:D

AKA2D '91 09-20-2007 05:07 PM

Per Mr. Jones, Mychel Bell's father, he is slated to be released tomorrow @ 12Noon. (Hoping that in Mr. JOnes' words, the DA and Judge won't try another trick) He's speaking on Micheal Baesden's show right now.

lovelyivy84 09-20-2007 06:00 PM

I don't know why anoyone would even go into those threads for a discussion on GC. You are not going to change anyone's mind, and they probably aren't going to change yours.

When I am not sure of how I feel about a topic and I want to discuss it IRL I read up on it and look for info from BOTH sides of the aisle. 99.9% of the "dialogues" I see here are with people who never bother to seek out that kind of information, yet still feel compelled to comment. Boring.

There are some things that some folks have no desire to understand, and I am definitely in that group. I have no desire to understand how difficult it is to be a poor persecuted affluent southern white male, so I just don't talk to some folks and let it go.

Marie 09-20-2007 06:33 PM

Aaaaaaand...I'm back from the 'other' Jena thread. You could mess around and lose your religion over there.

MeezDiscreet 09-20-2007 07:25 PM

I couldn't get past the first page--that thread messes with my presha!

Velocity_14 09-20-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mmbrown23 (Post 1523652)
Hey sistergreek, I'm from MS. What is the name of the town in MS (if you don't mind me asking)?


Hey, I don't mind:). Mound Bayou, MS---my dad is from there as well...

ladygreek 09-21-2007 01:47 AM

Shid, your national president is always on point. Now if he would just get a couple of suits to fit his widening girth - LOL. (At the Kappa Klave his suit jacket was pulling all kinds of ways when buttoned.)

mulattogyrl 09-21-2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MeezDiscreet (Post 1523823)
I couldn't get past the first page

me neither

Little32 09-21-2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MeezDiscreet (Post 1523823)
I couldn't get past the first page--that thread messes with my presha!

You saw I had to leave that thread alone, plus I had a rally to attend. I am glad to hear the news today; sounds like the protest had some effect.

FeeFee 09-21-2007 09:51 AM

I just read the first page of that other thread.

SMH, just SMH.

I really hope Mr. Bell is released today.

AKA2D '91 09-21-2007 03:25 PM

Bail DENIED....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20909145/

Velocity_14 09-21-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1524715)

I am really not surprised...reeeeeally not surprised.

CrimsonTide4 09-21-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1524715)


Shut up!:(:mad:

BlessedOne04 09-21-2007 04:38 PM

This make absolutely no sense!! And people wonder why minorities have an instilled fear/disgust of the law instead of respect.

1908Revelations 09-21-2007 06:02 PM

I was there sistergreeks and sorors!

RedefinedDiva 09-21-2007 06:44 PM

The rally was great!! I'll post pictures when I get them!

delph998 09-22-2007 07:37 PM

Very disturbing...:mad:

Little32 09-22-2007 10:04 PM

OK, so what is the next step?

christiangirl 09-23-2007 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1525652)
OK, so what is the next step?

Call Madea?

I'm sending a letter to Mychal. Hopefully, he'll be free before it gets there. :( Poor thing, I say he's been sufficiently punished, wouldn't you?

jitterbug13 09-27-2007 07:23 PM

Bell is freed!!!!
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/27...six/index.html

YES!!!!!! :D :D

AKA2D '91 09-27-2007 08:03 PM

Yes. As many have mentioned, he's already served his "term". He's been in jail for almost a year. That should be IT!!!

Little32 09-28-2007 08:47 AM

Mychal Bell was released on 45,000 bail this morning.

ladylike 09-28-2007 01:58 PM

As soon as things are sufficiently resolved, that young man needs to get the heck out of Jena.

Velocity_14 09-28-2007 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ladylike (Post 1529985)
As soon as things are sufficiently resolved, that young man needs to get the heck out of Jena.

Yes!!! He really does!!!

I really am glad that he is out!

Velocity_14 09-28-2007 05:02 PM

If you all get a chance to, Dr. Phil will have interviews from the parents of the Jena 6 (being conducted by T.D. Jakes) and will also have some of the other families involved on Monday's show. Its a two-part series that started today.

Honeykiss1974 10-01-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Velocity_14 (Post 1530184)
If you all get a chance to, Dr. Phil will have interviews from the parents of the Jena 6 (being conducted by T.D. Jakes) and will also have some of the other families involved on Monday's show. Its a two-part series that started today.

GRRRRRRRRR! I forgot to DVR this today!:mad: I watched his show Friday and thought it was really good and informative so I was looking forward to its continuation on Monday. Shoot... :(

lovelyivy84 10-01-2007 04:27 PM

Interesting NY Times op-ed piece

Jena, O. J. and the Jailing of Black America

I thought it was pretty well-balanced. Made me interested in reading the book.

Clip:

How, after decades of undeniable racial progress, did we end up with this virtual gulag of racial incarceration?

Part of the answer is a law enforcement system that unfairly focuses on drug offenses and other crimes more likely to be committed by blacks, combined with draconian mandatory sentencing and an absurdly counterproductive retreat from rehabilitation as an integral method of dealing with offenders. An unrealistic fear of crime that is fed in part by politicians and the press, a tendency to emphasize punitive measures and old-fashioned racism are all at play here.

But there is another equally important cause: the simple fact that young black men commit a disproportionate number of crimes, especially violent crimes, which cannot be attributed to judicial bias, racism or economic hardships. The rate at which blacks commit homicides is seven times that of whites.

CrimsonTide4 10-01-2007 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ladylike (Post 1529985)
As soon as things are sufficiently resolved, that young man needs to get the heck out of Jena.

All 6 of them do. There is no way I would even think to stay in Jena.

smlwonderdst 10-12-2007 12:04 PM

Mychael Bell is back in jail, this time for juvenile parole violation. I agree with you all. When this is all over he needs to get out of Louisana.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/11...ail/index.html

ladygreek 10-12-2007 02:34 PM

The fight itself was a violation of his probation and probably would have resulted in this sentence anyway if the whole try him as an adult thing hadn't happened.

At least he is in a juvenile facility and not in an adult jail.

BlessedOne04 10-12-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1536794)
At least he is in a juvenile facility and not in an adult jail.

I agree that it may be better but sometimes juvenile facilities are just as bad as adult ones.

ladygreek 10-12-2007 09:38 PM

Maybe so, but for me the bottom line is he violated his probation and this is where he would have ended up anyway. So I hope this doesn't lead to an extension of the Jena protests.

I guess for me I just don't think the whole thing should have gotten the "status" it did in the first place. For folx to have described it as the most monumental protest since the civil rights movement, to me was ludicrous. There is no comparison. Like the Million Man March, too many people went there for the show and to say they went, rather than for the cause. And many didn't even go to either event but just hung around DC or Jena in nearby hotels partying for the night. But then my view it is probably a generational thing.

smlwonderdst 10-13-2007 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1536926)
Maybe so, but for me the bottom line is he violated his probation and this is where he would have ended up anyway.

This is true. I just think that the 10 months he has already done should count toward the 18 month sentence since the adult charges he was orginally held on were thrown out.

But hopefully behind all of this he will learn the importance of self control and thinking before acting.

christiangirl 10-13-2007 01:26 AM

This is crazy. I agree that if they had just given him this sentence for this reason, none of the hoopla would have happened. It would've made sense and everyone would have moved on. This is like an anticlimactic ending to a bad movie.

mccoyred 10-13-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1536974)
This is crazy. I agree that if they had just given him this sentence for this reason, none of the hoopla would have happened. It would've made sense and everyone would have moved on. This is like an anticlimactic ending to a bad movie.

That is exactly the point! The charges and subsequent sentences were out of proportion to the crimes committed. I don't think anyone is saying that the students should not have been punished but it appears that the excessive charges stood in stark contrast against the charges or lack thereof for the white students in this particular string of events.

AKA2D '91 10-13-2007 01:30 PM

Not a drug violation, so what was it?
 
http://www.thenewsstar.com/apps/pbcs...WS01/710130334

christiangirl 10-13-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1537000)
That is exactly the point! The charges and subsequent sentences were out of proportion to the crimes committed. I don't think anyone is saying that the students should not have been punished but it appears that the excessive charges stood in stark contrast against the charges or lack thereof for the white students in this particular string of events.

And this is what makes me glad that I protested. I had no problem protesting on these grounds. All people involoved of all races needed appropriate punishment, and that includes Mychal. But for what it took to get to a sentence that was acceptable and fitting, those 10 months definitely need to count toward Mychal's new sentence. Too much has happened for even a fair sentence like this not to deserve a little lee-way.


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