What other thread? Who is we? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

I imagine she means your earlier post in this thread:
It's a challenge to keep straight what was said in this thread and what was said in the other IQH thread.

"We"
 

Oh, Alphafrog meant the two of us, I'm sure. :)

It takes two other posters to explain Jessie's post? Sheesh.

Jessie? That's a new one.

To explain it to you, apparently one isn't enough. ;)

I'm sure that you are accustomed to being called by many different names.

Thanks for your help.

No, actually I'm not. You're the one with the SockPuppet. I'm just me.

Hey FAMUDva:

I think you know I have real respect for you (and for other LHCF/D9 individuals). Deep respect. As you may know, I have acquaintances across the religious lines as well.

But in my personal experience-- a statement of faith is the exception-- not the rule to most GLOs. The way ITE has been ridiculed on GC is a sure example of that. I find that people love to make fun of Christians-- but don't let them dare say something about another group without the fear of not being called PC. :rolleyes:

Anyway, Christ is the standard in my life. In Him, I live, I move and have my being. He is my everything. Some people think it's wierd, but I let them-- because I have a peace that can not be described. A peace that many people are still seeking... This is the reason I chose a CGLO and in particular ITE. These women have never had a bad word to say about anyone-- especially other sisters.

With ITE, a strong testiment of faith is the rule-- and I think it's going back to the roots of what some D9s were founded on. A strong faith in God and a strong desire to serve the community.

Unfortuately-- in my personal experience-- I have seen greeks come a far way from these virtues. With the only excuse being offered up "those were bad apples".

I know "bad" and "good" apples happen as groups get larger-- so this does not speak to certain individuals who make up the groups. But as a whole I've found these groups have been a hostile environment for people who want to take their faith to a deeper level. (ie the name calling-- wierdos, Bible thumpers were even used here on GC I believe)

However, with ITE it was different for me. Since we are small, and we require that our members be on one accord spiritually (with the Bible being our final authority) I think it really shapes the character of our group.

Never once do you see us say on the site that there are not other Christians out there. We merely say that we can only speak to what's going on within our organization. I think some people took these statements and blew them out of the water. Which, quite frankly, we expect some people would do. For those people, we just pray (Not out of malice, but with the love of Jesus in our hearts).

As I have stated b4 my Mom, Aunt and Father are 3 Christian people who pledged D9, that I know personally. That's just the tip. Others in our group, know and fellowship with Christians in other sororities. In fact, that's how we found out about the drama-- A Christian sister outside of our sorority informed us.

Our only criteria is that our members must profess a TRUE devotion to God. With other sororities invisible lines about how you look, how much money you have, what kind of clothes you wear, who's your mama, who's your mama's mama, etc-- are the demarcations. It's sad but in many respects it's still true. Hey, I'm just being real and if people want to be mad at me, well they'll just be mad. With Christians--it should not be that way.

Our one criteria-- truly wanting to please God-- is crucial to our core mission and values. As you know, the Bible states there are "wheat and weeds" in the church. Ones who truly seek to please God and honor Him in every area of their lives are the wheat.

This does not mean "wheat" won't make mistakes, it just means that when they do-- they acknowlege them AND they seek to stop making the same ones repeatedly.

As some people mentioned, there is history between the "church" and BGLOs. A lot of what is on our website speaks from the Holy Spirit to that discussion. (some of y'all may not get that-- and it's okay) It's not a matter of validating our group. Our relationship with God has already done that for us...

If people are outside of those two BGLO or BC, people will not be familiar with this ongoing discussion between the groups.

We're not here to defend ourselves, just here to answer sincere questions. 'Cause frankly we'll just continue doing what we feel lead to do.

Now that I've written you a tome LOL--- HTH & thanks for your sincerity.

With kind regards

ITO members
 

It's nice that you have updated your information on your website - but to state that omicron means "small" is to miss the point that omicron does not MEAN small - the name for the greek letter is derived from the latin for "small o" in contrast to omega (which is a larger O).
The word "omicron" MEANS a letter in the greek alphabet. It is not the "obvious" choice - it is the correct one.
Perhaps your ministry should consider another name, given the fact that you wish to set yourselves apart from the GLOs who exist. Maybe use your "D.I.V.A." - you would have to ignore the origin of the word "diva", though.
I sincerely think that if you did that, you would not have to spend time explaining what you are NOT and can concentrate on what you ARE - and thus would avoid the need to insult GLO.

Huh?? Is it really that serious?? I didn't know about any updates, but I pray that the peace of the Lord is with you, and that you and your org accomplishes your mission just as we have set to accomplish ITE's.

Take care. :)

Go look on the website. There is now an expanded discussion of why omicron is used instead of omega. It is inaccurate, and I sincerely thought you would want to know, rather than come across as ignorant of the greek alphabet when you chose to use it. My bad, as they say. For someone who is not here to defend your group you are certainly defensive.
I am sure Gamma Phi's 130,000 members appreciate your concern. But please don't play the condescending "parting shot" card. It makes you look petty and "omicron", oh, I mean small.

Honestly I don't mean to be condescending and frankly I don't care how large your group is. My main concern was for you-- as an individual. Thanks for taking the time to look at our site.

Regards.

Awe, SWTXBelle, you've been personally absolved by Kelouis. You may now go in Peace.

So does that mean that all of us Alpha Omicron Pi's should start calling ourselves Alpha-Small-Pi's?:cool:

Sorry I couldn't resist.

LOL. Your new symbol:
http://www.groovycandies.com/uploadm...mages/4122.jpg
A Small Pi

Amen!

EEK! I'm 8 months pregnant- now I am going to have to go track down something deep fried and smothered in chocolate! (I don't think we have mini pecan pies in the vending machine).

You know you and your fellow ITE (and fellow non-ITE) members have been very condescending to the members here on GC.

The main discussion on ITE was the fact that your use of the Greek Alphabet was incorrect, that you used the acronym "DIVAs" but are obviously unaware of what "diva" actually means. The fact is you coming here isn't helping to extinguish the discussion on ITE, in fact, its changing people's opinion. I, for one, didn't really 'care' (for the lack of a better word) of how you all ran your sorority. But you all came on to this site, attacked people's beliefs, said you all wanted "support" all with a condescending tone.

Don't like what we have to say on GC....tough noogies--its a darn internet site.

Ahh but Roz (or whatever her name is) did in fact say she had not seen ---since she joined in April---anyone proclaim their faith. In fact she went as far as to say that we are "afraid."

Obviously you are all here to defend yourself. How about you take your own advice, continue to do what your feel lead to do...cause frankly just cause you all came on here doesn't mean we will stop talking.

Well aren't you just precious! But don't worry your pretty little head about me. I'd say you've got your plate full not defending your club here. You don't know me as an individual, and I dare say you don't know one iota about my sorority (well, you now know how many of us there are).

I know that your group believes all sorts of negative stereotypes about GLOs - and then goes on to further the negative ones about judgemental Christians. How do I know this? I did take the time to look at your website.

Take the time you were using to worry about me as an individual, and instead go to www.ellopos.net to educate yourself about the correct use of Greek letters.

Is it that important? Only if you don't want to come across as ignorant. I pointed out a factual error - not one of opinion, but of fact. Your response speaks volumes about both you and the ITEs - as I stated earlier, I think you and your ilk (ilk - I said ilk!) have done quite a lot to further GC's opinion of your group. You came here to GC spoiling for a fight, and have proceeded to show your true colors.

I really don't care what you and your little group chose to do about your name. This whole thread has supplied more than my daily allowance of humor and unintentional hilarity.

Also, should you wish to address a single person, I suggest you send her a personal message. Anything posted on the public forum is, um, public. Hence the name.

I'm going to follow St. Augustine's advice and bow out now.

eta - AlphaFrog - thanks be to God!

Actually, I was here to talk to an online acquaintance-- and to peruse the rest of the site. Please see my response directly to FAMUDva. I did not mention any you in it. Just because I'm not impressed by your numbers-- you have taken offense.

Please feel free to keep talking (I've never claimed to be the knower and keeper of the greek alphabet). LOL... but directing your comments towards me will be fruitless.

Thanks for your concern about the Greek alphabet and about our group...
Its truly heartwarming to see and feel the love. :p LOL

Moon Pies
 

Please note - the crescent moon! MMMM . . . pie!

I'll fight you for it!:)

That's what we Pi sororities ought to call our legacies... And this is my Lil Pi. :)

Welcome, then. Seriously. And now to be silly...

And not to offend, but everytime I read your screen name I think of Kelis...

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,
And they're like
It's better than yours,
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge...

la la la la...

Again in all seriousness, if you stop posting on this thread, it will die down. Check out the rest of Greek Chat. Get involved in the discussions on the forums. Maybe you can even get your own moderated forum to chat with members all over the country.

I like that.

But seriously, first pies and now milkshakes. Totally not fair since I am stuck here for another 51 minutes!

Thank you for your indepth answer Kelouis! I really appreciate you answering me honestly. :)

Forever Roses wins!
 

Shoot - if you are 8 months pregnant in the summer - you get the Moon Pies!

I don't believe Roz is in ITE.

She's not she said so a few pages back. She said she was sticking up for her sisters in Christ, not sorority sisters:).

Non-involvement is not the high road for a Christian when other Christians are under attack. It's the coward's road. Maybe some Christians can hide Jesus in a box, only to bring him out at the "appropriate" time and place, but that's not what the bible says to do.

My support for and defense of my sisters in Christ, Iota Theta Eta, is on record. I've raised some questions and said what I had to say, and I'm done.

I doubt that. But in all seriousness, do you believe that a Christian must support anothers actions just because the other person is also Christian?

To add: Wars have been fought because of one's strict adherence to their "homies" based on a belief system...

No, as a Christian I believe that you should go to the WORD and see what it says. I find nothing humble or admirable about a group that in Christ calls themselves Divas, and refers to "herstory" which is a term started by humanists.

If the Christians are being attacked for being faithful Christians, I would agree with you. In this discussion, I have not seen anyone attacked at all, much less attacked for being Christian.

I have seen, and have myself given, some criticism for specific comments that came across as Christian in name but not Christian in spirit.

I don't have to support their actions to defend them. It is enough that they are Christians coming under attack.

ETA: Someone did mention what the Pope had recently said, so it's related in that sense.

Not closely related to the topic at hand, but I wanted to ask something of everyone: before you get too mad about what the Pope is supposed to have said recently, see if you can find it in the original words, rather than someone else's take.

What he said is a lot more like: "being Roman Catholic gives you the best shot at salvation," (or actually and maybe in terms more familiar to readers of this thread, "the Catholic Church is God's true Church on earth) rather than the "everyone else is going to hell" that is being reported. (It specifically clarifies that other churches can be instruments of God's grace and salvation)

And sure, even a belief that being Roman Catholic gives you the best shot at salvation or is the TRUE church is likely to offend members of other religions and denominations, but he's the head of the Catholic Church; did you expect him to say: "Catholic, Jewish, Methodist, Hindu, Scientologist, whatever, they're all good?"

Thanks for your attention.

You're calling me a coward? Nice. I don't think its Christian to be so judgmental of someone you don't know--especially someone who was trying to be nice and helpful. Jesus certainly did not judge, and being judgmental is definitely not what the Bible says to do.

Why is it that some Christians think they are "more Christian" that others just because they may pray more or go to church more or join a club? Or in this case, because they want to start internet fights that will go nowhere? Isn't being a Christian about believing in Jesus and trying to live according to his lessons?

While I'm not a fan of the word "herstory" as it completely misunderstands the etymology of the word "history" is anything created by "humanists" automatically wrong?
So, do you believe one should defend any Christian who comes under attack for whatever reason?
Eh, what's another tangent in this thread. Clearly Catholics think they've got it right, why else would we be Catholic, as you say, the Pope didn't say "Protestants going to hell" he said that they've got some right parts to them, because they share things with the Catholic Church, but they're not completely right. Some non-Catholics are closer than others to the right path.

Well, to be fair, he certainly did judge from time to time. Remember how he talked to and about the Pharisees and their attitude that they were more religious than anyone else and kept the law better than anyone else?

Of course, Jesus gets to judge, being God Incarnate and all. The rest of us, not so much. ;)