There are no laws against women wearing a jockstrap and cup, either, but you couldn't pay me enough to do it.

Why don't fat men (some of whom are genetically predisposed to increased fat in the breast area than other areas) wear them, even though they are potentially subject to similar back pain etc as women?

Why don't obese men wear sports bras when running/walking/whatever?

To discount the 'traditional' component seems odd, since it's clear from the responses here that there is, indeed, that 'presumption' and that it's far beyond "you don't need one" - he's been called gay, dude. That's not "you don't need support!"

They don't wear sports bras because they don't walk or run :D

I can understand a fat guy with bigger boobs than me wearing a sports bra or the good old dependable Playtex 18 Hour bra for comfort's sake. A lot of them probably do. That's a lot different than going to Victoria's Secret and getting a pink lacy concoction. As some of the better endowed women on here have mentioned, Vicky's isn't exactly the best for larger sizes. Someone with a male back with backfat on it would have issues getting one to fit.

Our OP here JUST LIKES WEARING BRAS.

I never said that they were only for women. I did say that they were created to serve a specific purpose (supporting/covering breasts) and that society isn't making up some cumbersome rule whereby people would generally find it strange that someone who didn't need a bra for its intended purpose would wear one anyhow.

That said, I would also find it unusual if:

A woman wore a jockstrap and a cup.
A man wore a jockstrap and a cup regularly in situations outside what said jock and cup were designed for.
A person (male or female) wore a welders mask when not welding.
A person wore a bicycle helmet when not biking.

You get the idea. Is it possible that a person would simply enjoy wearing a bicycle helmet and therefore choose to wear it even when not necessary for its intended purpose? Sure. Would most people find it a bit unusual? I suspect so. Are there laws against wearing a bicycle helmet while not biking? Not that I'm aware of. Does that make it any less unusual? No.

I could not care less if you wear bras or not. I do not think that wearing bras makes you "gay." To tell you the truth, my opinion is that you wear bras b/c its something that you're not "supposed" to do. Somewhere in your subconcious you enjoy the fact that you're doing something unconventional that many people would find shocking. Does this bother me? No. Plenty of people do things to purposely be unconventional (ex - tattoos and body piercings, before they became so common. Dying hair purple, green, or any other color of the rainbow. Dressing goth.). Which doesn't bother me in the slightest - if we all looked/dressed/acted alike, it would get boring real fast. But, I do think that the "forbidden" or "unconventional" aspect of it is more the reason why you wear them vs. any "comfort" factor. (I've been wearing bras for 20+ years and know from firsthand experience that they aren't "comfortable.") Does it really matter to me exactly why you choose to wear them? No.

The reason I go with VS is because I feel that if I am going to be doing this, might as well go with the best. I don't know if VS are the best, but their line is the most heavily marketed, and they do look nice on their models, so their advertising gets to me that they are the best. I couldn't go with another brand because it would just feel cheaper and would appeal to me less.

You hit the nail on the head here susan. I think the fact that wearing a bra is "out there" and that I am not supposed to plays a huge role in why I enjoy wearing bras. If this was normal in men, I am sure that wearing a bra would be less enjoyable and fun for me. The whole rebellious factor is a reason why I enjoy wearing bras. I do think bras are comfortable though and I do feel weird when I am not wearing one.

I just shot Diet Coke out of my nose. :D

Your manager is exactly right.I've known a couple drag queens in my life that had exquisite taste and made hella money as drag performers. Their money and credit cards spend just the same as anyone elses.


So is it the bra itself you like or the fabric of the bra? I ask because in my many years as a preschool Director/teacher, I have come across several little boys,and thinking back, they all have been boys, who could not sleep without blankets made from the silky fabric of their mothers lingerie. Sometimes it was a blanket or a satin pillowcase and in a few cases it was actually Mom's silk/satin slip. The fabric and sometimes the item itself ,provided them comfort and security.

the bra itself

i cant really give a definitive reason why i like wearing them. but my bra collection is diverse with many kinds of fabrics.

PB, I agree!

People are entitled to do what ever they want, but this is just ging waaaay over my head as to how this is cool. I wish like hell a guy would try to talk to me and he wore bras, he would NEVER see me again!!! I guess I like my men with testerone!

LMAO

well, its not like im gay or anything :rolleyes: i play baseball, golf/basketball/football with my friends, work out a lot, attracted by women, watch sports a lot, all the things testosterone powered guys do. only difference is that i like to wear bras

Whatever floats your boat, but you better hold on to your girlfriend, because not all girls will be welcomed to this whateveritis.

umm, you kinda dont have the... yeah.

ok but i know gay dudes who do all the above. remember we're not confusing gender identity with sexual orientation.

so you exclusively wear VS? do you think your desire to wear bras is strictly a subconscious reaction to their marketing? i mean, if something is advertised enough, you will want it, or something to do with it, by the time its all said and done. VS is VERY popular on selling an otherwise fuctional product and making it "cool" (which is how big business essentially makes profit... otherwise, Apple would still be in the crapper it it wasnt for iPod)

anyway, i think you wearing bras is merely a (strong) reaction to effective advertising. i mean sure you werent the target audience, but maybe the agency they use is just that damn good.

does that work for everyone here, or is ccutoff still a freak?

Yes!!

Well, my mindset that is if I am going to go out of my way to wear bras, I might as well wear the best ones, you know? I know that VS being the best is an opinion, but the way they are marketed and such with taglines like "Best bra in the world", "World's most glamorous bras", "Heavenly fit" makes it seem as if they are the leading brand name when it comes to bras. Therefore, in my mind, VS is the best. I know not everyone shares that opinion. The thought of wearing bras from lesser brand names doesn't appeal to me at all. I'd rather not wear one at all. And after 18 months of wearing VS, I can say that their bras live up to the hype and marketing dollars, at least for me :)

This has to be a joke!

I wonder who it is. As you can see, this guy is long-winded and detailed...that is NOT my writing style at all. I don't think it matches any other GCer who has multiple screen names. This is someone new, or an older GCer who has never created an alter ego before.

ETA: For those who think I'm cc, think...do I even APPEAR to be a girl who has a lot of knowledge about bras??? I'm too much of a tomboy to give a damn. My idea of bra shopping is going to Target and scanning for the bra I think would fit me best.

well therein lies the difference in the purpose you wear bras and the female GC population (and other male GC closeted bra-wearers alike). you wear them cause you like it, its fun, yadda yadda yadda. we (and thats the collective "we" mentioned above) wear them cause we kinda have to. VS's marketing in bras being "the best" and coming up with lines like the "very sexy" collection is just a way to blindsight the consumer. we know that deep down, wearing bras sucks serious non-gendered balls and the only way it makes us feel a little better about it is to put some bows and lace on it.

i bet youre one of those people who just show up for the party, ready to drink all the booze and leave happy and piss-ass drunk. you dont ever come to set up the party nor do you stay til the morning after to clean up.

(in case any of yall are unclear, i did just compare a bra-wearing dude to a party crasher - what about it?)

Me and ccutoff are the same person.:D I'm just playing. LOL.

I think he's real. I can usually tell the fakers. They either do it to cause an argument, forgot their password, or they just want something different.

it's not a question of him being comfortable with it, it's a question of how people would react. chances are there would be many people in his life that would react just like you have - calling it unnatural, weird, perverted, etc. it's also not always a safe thing to do because you never know how people are going to react. maybe it's just the product of being at my university for three years and being exposed to issues like this continuously, but i don't think there's anything wrong with it - i mean yeah, you sound like you may have some gender identity questions you haven't really explored (and i want to stress that i mean strictly gender identity, not sexuality), and i personally would be a bit weirded out if it were my guy fessing up to this, but to each their own.

you're not harming anyone, it makes you feel good, so what's the problem? enjoy it :)

(that's my two cents at any rate)

i think he's a genuine poster as well - the tone and responses of his posts fit with someone who really does do this on a daily basis. you'd have to be pretty knowledgable about this kind of lifestyle choice to be faking it.

Yeah, I am not making this up. If I were a troll or some kind of jokester, I would have given up by now. I wish I could prove it somehow but I don't know how.

Actually, believe it or not but I don't drink or do drugs. It's not me.. I just don't like doing it. I'll go to parties but I will just have soda or water. I see all the people getting plastered at parties and how immature they are being... thats not me. Besides, it is my goal in life to become a professional baseball player, and alcohol/drugs would just be a distraction and death trap for me. Therefore, I am holding off alcohol until I accomplish things I want to accomplish in my life. But this is a bra thread, so hopefully it doesn't turn into a alcohol/smoking/drugs ethics thread :)

i feel really uncomfortable and weird wearing bras around my family, so i usually dont when i am around my family. but i am completely fine wearing them around everyone else.

sorry, my humor was lost on you COMPLETELY. all i was saying was that you liking to wear bras seems like it comes from
a. really effective marketing (their commercials are really persuasive)
b. wearing something because you dont need to (i mean what are you holding up?
and
c. wearing something you're not (socially) supopsed to (you know that whole sex envy thing? and that DOESNT MEAN YOURE GAY)

im tryin to give you some logical explanations but you aint biting the bait. so guess what? youse a long-winded, baseball-playing, VS-bra-wearing freak and i hope everyone finds out about your dirty little secret.

happy now? sheesh.

Sorry, I knew you were using an example. I should have stated that in my post. No offense taken...

OP: you must not have read the "Bra" thread yet, because if you had, you'd know that a whole lotta women on GC think VS bras suck! They're poorly made and they don't carry sizes for well-endowed women.

There's a difference between sexy bras and functional everyday bras. Most women have both and know when to pull out the sexy ones. If you're looking for sexy bras, there are way better ones out there. If you're looking for good quality, functional bras, there are a ton of brands out there that are better. If you're looking for an education, check out that thread.

hmm.. if i were to of heard this a year or two ago i may have used it.. but its probably too late. my mind is already brainwashed that VS is the best and my brand of choice. :/ like i said going with another brand would seem like i would be settling for less

thanks for the advice though, can't blame you for trying to help :)

I think that thread is what brought the OP here. I believe that somehow there is a connection, because it is too special to be a coincidence.

Hellooooo?! Christmas?

Grow a pair (no, the other kind of pair) and tell them about it, for pete's sakes.


And am I the only one who's reminded of Tobias Funke with the username ccutoff? "I'm...a never nude." ;)

LMAO that is a Jerry Springer episode waiting to happen! Dad is gonna start swearing that no son of his... and the mother is jus gonna cry in the corner saying how he failed as a mom, and then his older brother will confess that he's been the Grand Imperial Wizard of the KKK.

oh yes, merry christmas!

Bwahahahahahahaaaa!

And what Peppy said--VS is horrible compared to other things out there. They just fit awkward to me and they run super-small. (Then again, if you have no tits, that may be a good thing.) If your location's right and you are, in fact, IN Fort Worth, there's a Neiman's and a Nordstrom's up in DFW that you should check out.

There is just about everything in the area. There are quite a few Nordstroms in the area.

I've visited most VS stores in the Fort Worth area at least once... Hulen, Northeast, Ridgmar, Parks Mall, Southlake Town Square... there is something about the stores that loves making me go into them. Maybe its the smell or the elegance of the store. The hard part is getting into the store - its a hard thing to do. Sometimes I'll stand outside the store and walk by it a few times before going in. Sounds freaky I know. Once I am in the store though, its all downhill from there.

Also, telling my family about it is easier said than done.

That Southlake Town Square store always does the best on secret shops and customer service ratings. It's annoying, because my store and other VS stores around the nation are always held to their standards in customer service and sales.

Back on topic, I got my job back at VS for the summer as a part-time job to compliment my other summer job. What do you know, we fitted a guy today. About upper 50s, wearing a bra under mans clothes(making no effort to conceal it) and he got a key to the dressing rooms and one of my new co-workers I haven't met yet fitted him. She wasn't too thrilled, but she doesn't have a choice. He was in there over an hour and kept hitting the assistance bell in the dressing room to get new styles/sizes. He walked out with over $200 in bra/panty purchases.

She male want a be?:confused:

Oh dear God! I get it now.

No thanks on the adult video store.;)

Last year, my GF and I did a "swap" for halloween. It was actually a lost bet. If I won I got to pick the costumes and if she won she got to pick them (I had a nice hooker/pimp idea...oh well) She dressed up in my football uniform left over from high school, shoulder pads and all, and I dressed up in girl clothes. We started getting ready sometime halloween afternoon and had to keep the costumes on until we went to bed (like, 3am). It really wasn't as bad as you might think.

Her and her two friends went to the max on me though. Girl jeans, thigh high's, 3 inch heels, thong, DD bra with water baloons, some sort of tanktop and a sweater. Not to mention a full manicure/pedicure with pink nail polish and fake nails, full makeup and a wig. Remember now, I'm 6'7" and about 250lbs. These are the differences I noticed:

Girl's jeans are much warmer than guy's
I should have shaved my legs b/c my leg hair hurt like hell when I took them off
The bra wasn't as bad as she always made it out to be...
...My back did hurt like hell by the end of the night though
A thong, as good as it may look on you ladies, hurts like hell too
Heels are, also, quite painful after a while
It's a bitch to open beer cans with fake nails on(yes, my "man" had to open them for me)
Makeup is a pain and a half to take off.

Now, all I have to say after that experience, is that I respect you ladies quite a bit more. I had no idea the pain you have to go through to look beautiful for us guys. I can understand why women would need to wear a bra (my GF also had some of those creepy fake boob things. you know, they stick to you and bring you up a cup size to help fit into a dress or something. she made me wear those for an hour w/o a bra...the jiggeling was quite uncomfortable) But I still can't understand why a guy would want to. Even though it wasn't that uncomfortable, I can say that I wouldn't want to wear one again.

Oh well, now that I have creeped you out...to each their own I guess.

This is where I stopped reading......a geniuine TMI moment.