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shinerbock 04-05-2007 11:13 AM

AKA, as much as I disagree with you, you've generally been a lot more rational than this. You're blatantly lying about what people have been saying, despite the evidence being right in front of you. Try taking a minute to read what people have ACTUALLY said.

UGAalum94 04-05-2007 11:37 AM

AKAMonet,

For what it's worth, that's not what I am saying.

I don't think it's right for people to discriminate based on names.

I don't think people at large can choose the names for other people's kids.

AKA_Monet 04-14-2007 01:50 AM

Given this Imus situtation, I am going to remind folks what my English Professor would always tell me:

"Words are powerful, they are the symbols of ideas".

Now, I already know what the quasi-research is out there on "Naming" folks, you all are stating the obvious to me. I am one of the GC Scholars here, so you are not telling me anything by quoting some TV or website.

I am asking for more from you, because I am training for professorship and sometimes it is hard for me to break out of that mold. I am constantly trying to get my students thinking critically and expound upon their given knowlege to reach a higher meaning. All scholars do that. The professor I currently work for does it to me all the time and he is quite intelligent a Harvard Graduate and a M.D./Ph.D. Moreover, he use to do local late-night talk radio.

But, that aside, I think you all fail to understand what I am saying. Yes, Black Folks should reconsider what they name their children - especially if they are named after cars they cannot afford, like Maybach.

But, history says that when my anscestors where brought here in chains, their names were beaten into them, from Kunta Kinte to Toby...

So when folks tell me anything regarding naming our children and a process to follow, that is the image that comes up in my mind.

Why did George Formen name all his sons "George" and all his daughters "Georgina". Because history states that long time ago, when the Klan decided to lynch someone, they had a hard time finding the right person unless the killed the entire village-i.e. Rosewood and Tulsa.

So there is history behind what I say and when I say it, it is not coming outta my ass. Most of the time, I have some basis. Otherwise, others are more willing to tell me.

cheerfulgreek 04-14-2007 07:25 AM

OMG. We're debating over what someone wants to name their kid? Why does it even matter?

macallan25 04-14-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1429494)
Given this Imus situtation, I am going to remind folks what my English Professor would always tell me:

"Words are powerful, they are the symbols of ideas".

Now, I already know what the quasi-research is out there on "Naming" folks, you all are stating the obvious to me. I am one of the GC Scholars here, so you are not telling me anything by quoting some TV or website.

I am asking for more from you, because I am training for professorship and sometimes it is hard for me to break out of that mold. I am constantly trying to get my students thinking critically and expound upon their given knowlege to reach a higher meaning. All scholars do that. The professor I currently work for does it to me all the time and he is quite intelligent a Harvard Graduate and a M.D./Ph.D. Moreover, he use to do local late-night talk radio.

But, that aside, I think you all fail to understand what I am saying. Yes, Black Folks should reconsider what they name their children - especially if they are named after cars they cannot afford, like Maybach.

But, history says that when my anscestors where brought here in chains, their names were beaten into them, from Kunta Kinte to Toby...

So when folks tell me anything regarding naming our children and a process to follow, that is the image that comes up in my mind.

Why did George Formen name all his sons "George" and all his daughters "Georgina". Because history states that long time ago, when the Klan decided to lynch someone, they had a hard time finding the right person unless the killed the entire village-i.e. Rosewood and Tulsa.

So there is history behind what I say and when I say it, it is not coming outta my ass. Most of the time, I have some basis. Otherwise, others are more willing to tell me.

Just because you are a "scholar" and have some basis behind what you say doesn't excuse the fact that you blatantly lied about the things that people involved in this discussion were saying simply to aid your own arguments. Take shinerbock's advice and go re-read what people ACTUALLY said.

JonInKC 04-14-2007 06:25 PM

At least the thread didn't go off on a tangent.

AKA_Monet 04-15-2007 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1429664)
Just because you are a "scholar" and have some basis behind what you say doesn't excuse the fact that you blatantly lied about the things that people involved in this discussion were saying simply to aid your own arguments. Take shinerbock's advice and go re-read what people ACTUALLY said.

May be I don't see it that way and I don't see it as a lie. Your facts are not my reality. So what is truth?

shinerbock 04-15-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1429664)
Just because you are a "scholar" and have some basis behind what you say doesn't excuse the fact that you blatantly lied about the things that people involved in this discussion were saying simply to aid your own arguments. Take shinerbock's advice and go re-read what people ACTUALLY said.

Dude, when you're a scholar you only worry about your own opinion and perception. Reality and reason be damned.

macallan25 04-15-2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1429814)
May be I don't see it that way and I don't see it as a lie. Your facts are not my reality. So what is truth?

Bwahahahaha. This is funny. Look, I don't think anyone at this point is talking about whether what they have written is factual/truthful or not. At least i'm not. We are talking about the actual sentences that we typed out and how you somehow managed to completely ignore them, made up some nonsense that we didn't say, and then typed out your responses based on your criticisms of our nonexistent thoughts. The things that you claimed we said.........were not said. You blatantly lied to yourself about what we typed. That is the truth. What is factual, is there any truth behind our statements..........that stuff is completely besides the point.

AKA_Monet 04-15-2007 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1429876)
Bwahahahaha. This is funny. Look, I don't think anyone at this point is talking about whether what they have written is factual/truthful or not. At least i'm not. We are talking about the actual sentences that we typed out and how you somehow managed to completely ignore them, made up some nonsense that we didn't say, and then typed out your responses based on your criticisms of our nonexistent thoughts. The things that you claimed we said.........were not said. You blatantly lied to yourself about what we typed. That is the truth. What is factual, is there any truth behind our statements..........that stuff is completely besides the point.

Wait, first of all what you have typed is a whole load of bull crap. And if is not based on some level of a factual information, then I cannot argue it, which makes it distortion of the truth, thereby leading to a lie. Hey, either way you spin this crap, it is still what it is.

I don't have time to go thru the diatribes, but your sentance structure is illogical. What you can say to me in a paragraph you can state in 3 bullet points with fewer words.

Live in superfluousness and have your address in mounds and crocks of discharge. But, that is not the way I choose to live my life.

K.I.S.S. = keep it simple stupid... With that, kiss my _____________

AKA_Monet 04-15-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1429871)
Dude, when you're a scholar you only worry about your own opinion and perception. Reality and reason be damned.

And you Mr. are hateful and need more time in the gym.

shinerbock 04-15-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1430050)
And you Mr. are hateful and need more time in the gym.


Not really hateful, and what I need is more time on the golf course.

macallan25 04-15-2007 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1430048)
Wait, first of all what you have typed is a whole load of bull crap. And if is not based on some level of a factual information, then I cannot argue it, which makes it distortion of the truth, thereby leading to a lie. Hey, either way you spin this crap, it is still what it is.

I don't have time to go thru the diatribes, but your sentance structure is illogical. What you can say to me in a paragraph you can state in 3 bullet points with fewer words.

Live in superfluousness and have your address in mounds and crocks of discharge. But, that is not the way I choose to live my life.

K.I.S.S. = keep it simple stupid... With that, kiss my _____________


There have been more people than just me who have called you out for doing exactly what I said. I find what I typed perfectly understandable and logical..........but you bitching about it really means nothing to me considering the poor grammar and sentence structure that you have exhibited here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinerbock
AKA, as much as I disagree with you, you've generally been a lot more rational than this. You're blatantly lying about what people have been saying, despite the evidence being right in front of you. Try taking a minute to read what people have ACTUALLY said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASUADPi
I'm not sure why you aren't really reading what people are saying and that you are putting words into our mouths, but whatever.


You have acted like an irrational idiot in this thread. Quit while you are behind.

JonInKC 04-16-2007 09:11 AM

Can't we stop all the fussin' and a-fightin'?...

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