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Thank You for Your Insightful post!:D Now, lets get down to Foot Ball! Like anyone cares?:( Wow and Indiania and Illonois Team.;) No, let us get down to two Black Men who are coaching. Do any of you think they give a damn? They are worried about coaching!:mad: Congratulations to The Gentlemen who are Coaching!:D May The Best Team Win! |
Yes, I agree, it is a big deal. I admire the MEN whether Black or White, they are hired for the knowlege that they have aquired from working hard, not because it is of color.
Why don't you ask them? They spent their times in the trenches and proved themselves noteworthy, not because of color but brains, training and damn hard work! |
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LOL! :rolleyes: White people really need to give this "colorblind" rhetoric a rest. This thread was just stating a FACT and that some people were proud of that known fact--just like some people are proud of other FACTS that go down in American and black history. You all came in here on some other crap and led the thread to where it is now. |
As many of you suspect, I'm a nerd. As such, I'd sincerely like to keep this discussion about race going because it makes me think.
Could we maybe open another thread to continue the discussion generally, but allow this thread to be purely celebratory? |
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Well, everyone is better in the CFL than they are in the NFL, to be fair.
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I can get that from college ball...without Canadians, which is a plus.
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Well I assumed that, but its still a Canadian league, so I doubt its devoid of them.
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I think it's childish when anyone says it. As for my statement -- that's your opinion. At least I can give mine without profane language. |
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You haven't given me a reason to tell you to "shut up." When you do, I'll tell you to "shut up." Think of it what you will. |
I wouldn't worry about it guys. It's not that effective, considering I'm still talking.
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Just last month, a minority led consortium was able to buy a major league team -- a soccer team -- which is the first. There have been other well financed consortiums (consortia?) who attempted to buy teams in the past. |
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Who said anything about soccer? Soccer is probobly the least expensive out of any major sports franchise to purchase. You made a statement about how the lack of black owners in the NFL should be looked on as a negative. |
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I assume you mean the first minority owned soccer team?
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DeltAlum- after reading this entire thread, I have to say that I am proud to call you a fellow Ohio University Alum. I might not always agree with you, but you at least try and be respectful of others. end hijack As for Tony Dungy, I live in Indianapolis and after seeing the way he handles himself both on and off the football field, I am proud that he is going to be the "face" of the Colts at the SuperBowl. He handled a very difficult situation (the death of his eldest son) in the glare of the spotlight with so much dignity. I don't know much about the Bears coach, but if he is anything like Dungy, the Bears have much to be proud of as well. |
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See, the whole thing here, Delt, is that you're speaking in absolutes, and not even in correct ones at that - it's fine to decry the rhetorical strategies of others, but . . . well, you know . . . |
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Actually, I've met and talked with Bob Johnson and gave him a tour of the old TCI Digital TV Center. The point, I think, is that major league sports took decades before any real progress was made toward minority ownership. At least that's my opinion, which I believe history will confirm. |
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Also, although not always, I generally say, "I think," or "In my opinion." Thanks. |
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The real issue is societal - that a very small percentage of those rich enough to purchase a sports franchise (valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars) are minorities. It's not that rich white guys are choosing not to sell the teams to rich black guys - I don't think there's any evidence of this at all. This is completely different from coaching opportunities - there is no such monetary barrier. This means while there are probably still racial issues at play, it's a matter of scale - one is a societal issue of wealth distribution, while the other is much more direct (hiring practices). It's nonsense to lump them together, which is what shinerbock and Macallan are saying (I think) - it's just not a similar comparison, although it sounds pretty to throw them together. One is simply not the same as the other . . . no matter what your "opinion" may be - that's not an 'out' to lack of logic. |
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It is my feeling that both of these gentlemen would prefer the spot light not be on them, but on the players and the game. Do they desearve it, YES. Did they earn it, YES! The coach I admire the most is Eddie Robinson of Grambling who did not get the recognition that He so richly desearved. Oh, for those who do not know, he was happy at what he was doing and where he was with the school, his team, and its athletes. |
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Right. Wealth distribution and unequal access to opportunities are the biggest factors. The racial inequality occurs further down the line so that a very small % of minorities get past the glass ceilings and opportunity hoarding, on the part of white males, in order to compete in the franchise game. This discussion initially was not about team ownership, which is a different beast altogether, but about head coaching. You don't need to discuss the full extent of wealth distribution to discuss head coaching. Of course if you discuss outliers such as team ownership you will be unable to make a more substantive correlation. |
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