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DSTCHAOS 01-18-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ColorfulCre8ion (Post 1385882)
I apologize Soror Reds6. I was rude and out of line and I sincerely apologize to you and other Sorors.

You're cool. Probably just felt overwhelmed.

pinkies up 01-18-2007 08:52 PM

I think what everyone has been trying to tell you that although it wasn't right for your LS's and Sorors to treat you like you were contagious, it does hurt when you are supposed to be close to people and you witheld information. I'm sure they shared intimate secrets with you. You have to understand their anger and hurt. No, they aren't right, but their feelings are valid. Maybe you all need to handle this in house, and then ban together as sisters. They need to understand that there's nothing other organizations love more than to see a house divided.

Reds6 01-18-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ColorfulCre8ion (Post 1385882)
I apologize Soror Reds6. I was rude and out of line and I sincerely apologize to you and other Sorors.

No problem young one. Just remember you may think people don't know what chapter or school you are speaking about, but you gave enough identifing information that wouldn't make it hard to find out. I'm sure any Soror on here would be glad to speak to you about personal situations in private. Just as your LS's need to uphold Delta, so do you.

Reds6 01-18-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1385899)
Bring your pepper spray. :p

I'm gonna give you deference on the other site! ;)

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2007 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Reds6 (Post 1385974)
I'm gonna give you deference on the other site! ;)

Lemme go see if you forgot!!! :D

treblk 01-19-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1385214)
If/When you lost your virginity, would/did you tell your girlfriends or your parents? If you'd gotten pregnant in highschool or college, wouldn't your girlfriends' reactions have been much better than your mom's?

:confused: :confused: Who(m) are you addressing these questions to?

DSTKellie 01-19-2007 10:14 AM

Aww them Sorors from Delta Zeta are no joke...lol:p

mulattogyrl 01-19-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1385899)
Bring your pepper spray. :p

dammit

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 01-19-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Reds6 (Post 1385587)
But Steph, you all knew each other and we made it a point to know you guys and for you guys to know us before you were selected. :p There's no way someone could have hid they were a single parent. The point of pledging is to build trust as you bond and learn about your sister. Staying strong and enduring.

Soror...you misunderstood my post...I didn't hide the fact I was a parent or my age...I just didn't make those facts the preamble to everything I said or did while around my pros before I was selected...I knew the reputation of my chapter and that I would be ummm "busy" alot and I didn't want the fact that I was a mother be the automatic reason I wasn't selected..when my line "hung out" it was usually at my house because I had my daughter, she was no secret....with the current case in this thread, why would it be necessary for the soror to put her sexuality out there...heterosexuals don't greet people with "hello I'm so and so and by the way I'm straight"...just like with being selected for a job, its human nature that people's personal biases and beliefs will come into play when they are making selections...I have a LS that we all kinda suspect is possibly gay, does it matter to me? No, why should it, do you...I went through hell and high water with my line but my two LSs that I'm best friends with I learn new stuff about them all the time...hell I learn new things about my siblings still...I can't be mad at soror for going through her process as a woman who happens to be a lesbian as opposed to a lesbian who is becoming a Delta...I'm sure there's so much more that she is bringing to the table...

ETA: just read what went down in the posts yesterday...definitely not condoning the disrespect that went on..I'm sure young soror is just hurting and frustrated though...like I said earlier, let the haters hate and know that Delta is bigger then your chapter...best of luck to you...

Lolaluvsdelta 01-19-2007 11:38 AM

I don't understand how the OP was disrespectful?? The whole time Reds was questioning the validity of her post and basically calling her a liar. Who wouldn't get offended or upset by that?

Far as the gay thing I would have an issue with that cause thats just something i aint used to seeing.

DSTKellie 01-19-2007 11:44 AM

Who are you?:confused:

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolaluvsdelta (Post 1386190)
I don't understand how the OP was disrespectful?? The whole time Reds was questioning the validity of her post and basically calling her a liar. Who wouldn't get offended or upset by that?

Far as the gay thing I would have an issue with that cause thats just something i aint used to seeing.


^^^ Not really a Delta

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9 (Post 1386163)
Soror...you misunderstood my post...I didn't hide the fact I was a parent or my age...I just didn't make those facts the preamble to everything I said or did while around my pros before I was selected...I knew the reputation of my chapter and that I would be ummm "busy" alot and I didn't want the fact that I was a mother be the automatic reason I wasn't selected..when my line "hung out" it was usually at my house because I had my daughter, she was no secret


Your post was misleading because it read like you weren't forthcoming with the information. Then you stated it wasn't hard to not be forthcoming because you went to a large commuter school. Thanks for clarifying that everyone knew your age and the fact that you were a single parent. Well...I guess that's what you're saying. :)

As far as how "busy" you would've been, MIP is supposed to be a very busy time. :) So having a child, or other obligations that a more traditional student might not have, is something that could be worked around if you're forthcoming.

laylo 01-19-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1385750)
Bad analogy. Your girlfriends were probably doing the same things, so of course they would be sympathatic. :D

Nope, not very many people I know were getting pregnant in highschool or college, so they definitely weren't doing the same thing. And as for losing their virginity, most adults were doing the same thing when they were young. But it wasn't an anlaogy really, it was an illustration of the point that parents' reactions are not always the most accepting, as the other poster was implying. Parents' reactions to their children's struggles can sometimes be worse than anyone else's, particularly parents who tend to blame any issues a child has on their parenting skills.

Mizunderstood04 01-19-2007 02:21 PM

Sorry to hear about your situation and I hope it gets better (hope you feel better as well). I go through a kinda similar situation with my LS's (truth be told, we really ain't that cool). I go to chapter meeting and events that we have and get funny looks and them whispering to each other (simply because the don't like me, I suppose). Anyway, my little $19. 20 cents is that I've always held on to something that one of my sorors and frat have told me "Just because they are a soror, don't make them your sister". Those aren't the ONLY Deltas in the world. Again, I do hope you feel better :)

Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Inc.
#1 Mizunderstood
Spr 05

crimsondanger10 01-19-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1386256)
So having a child, or other obligations that a more traditional student might not have, is something that could be worked around if you're forthcoming.

Agreed. My prophytes knew I had a child in the very beginning, and were very considerate of my circumstances. Thanks to my line sisters, I made it through my senior year of college, single parenthood, and being online all at the same time. I don't think I could have made it without them (line sisters and prophytes)knowing this information.

I would kinda be :eek: :confused: at one of my line sisters revealing this type of information later on because we discussed those types of things during our bonding process.

Just my opinion as it relates to my situation.

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizunderstood04 (Post 1386273)
(truth be told, we really ain't that cool). I go to chapter meeting and events that we have and get funny looks and them whispering to each other (simply because the don't like me, I suppose).


That's really unfortunate. While our organizations go beyond our "lines" and our chapters, our "lines" and chapters are supposed to be a focal point and beginning of organizational learning and socialization. Similar to how our families are the beginning of our learning and socialization as people.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 01-19-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crimsondanger10 (Post 1386275)
Agreed. My prophytes knew I had a child in the very beginning, and were very considerate of my circumstances. Thanks to my line sisters, I made it through my senior year of college, single parenthood, and being online all at the same time. I don't think I could have made it without them (line sisters and prophytes)knowing this information.

I would kinda be :eek: :confused: at one of my line sisters revealing this type of information later on because we discussed those types of things during our bonding process.

Just my opinion as it relates to my situation.

sounds like you had a great support system Soror...I guess everyone's "process" is somewhat unique...but now "my soul looks back and wonder" and my LSs and I can laugh as we reminisce on that time...

Reds6 01-19-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolaluvsdelta (Post 1386190)
I don't understand how the OP was disrespectful?? The whole time Reds was questioning the validity of her post and basically calling her a liar. Who wouldn't get offended or upset by that?

Far as the gay thing I would have an issue with that cause thats just something i aint used to seeing.

^NEO:rolleyes:

Reds6 01-19-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1386250)
^^^ Not really a Delta


LOL! I really hate you! LOL:D

Reds6 01-19-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1386256)
Your post was misleading because it read like you weren't forthcoming with the information. Then you stated it wasn't hard to not be forthcoming because you went to a large commuter school. Thanks for clarifying that everyone knew your age and the fact that you were a single parent. Well...I guess that's what you're saying. :)

As far as how "busy" you would've been, MIP is supposed to be a very busy time. :) So having a child, or other obligations that a more traditional student might not have, is something that could be worked around if you're forthcoming.


Ditto!

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds6 (Post 1386414)
^NEO:rolleyes:

He/she wishes.

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Originally Posted by Reds6 (Post 1386415)
LOL! I really hate you! LOL:D

;)

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9 (Post 1386413)
"my soul looks back and wonder"

Whatchu know about Mahalia? My favorite gospel artist EVER!

Richard Smallwood is #2.

Krisco 01-19-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1385740)
What's the correlation here? We are based on Christian principles--not Christian scripture.

*Okay I know, that's a whole 'nother discussion that has been hashed and rehashed on here* LOL

Soror Ladygreek, I was making an attempt to say in my own feeble and bumbling mind that christian principles, imho, are highly related and based on actual scripture, hence in my eyes correlated. But of course, that is subjective to what one embraces as Christianity. I was kind of torn in the way I felt about this young lady and her motives. On the one hand Granny laid it down early that christian principles and/or scripture doesn't condone homsexuality...period, but at the same time neither does it 'allow' judging and mistreatment. So at times I basically feel torn quite a bit...:D !

As Steve Harvey says "He ain't through with me yet"

CrimsonTide4 01-19-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolaluvsdelta (Post 1386190)
I don't understand how the OP was disrespectful?? The whole time Reds was questioning the validity of her post and basically calling her a liar. Who wouldn't get offended or upset by that?

Far as the gay thing I would have an issue with that cause thats just something i aint used to seeing.

You need to introduce yourself in the appropriate thread.

ladygreek 01-19-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Krisco (Post 1386433)
Soror Ladygreek, I was making an attempt to say in my own feeble and bumbling mind that christian principles, imho, are highly related and based on actual scripture, hence in my eyes correlated. But of course, that is subjective to what one embraces as Christianity. I was kind of torn in the way I felt about this young lady and her motives. On the one hand Granny laid it down early that christian principles and/or scripture doesn't condone homsexuality...period, but at the same time neither does it 'allow' judging and mistreatment. So at times I basically feel torn quite a bit...:D !

As Steve Harvey says "He ain't through with me yet"

Soror, this is a deeper discussion that has been addressed by our national chaplain. Try doing a search here and in the Omega forum on Christian principles, Christian-based, Minerva, etc. You will see both sides of the argument. And remember that not all sorors are Christian.

ladygreek 01-19-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1386437)
You need to introduce yourself in the appropriate thread.

Is there a thread where perps can introduce themselves? :D

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 01-19-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1386422)
Whatchu know about Mahalia? My favorite gospel artist EVER!

Richard Smallwood is #2.

Raised on her LPs on Saturday mornings while my Grandma cleaned the house...took me gaining some age to truly understand what I was forced to listen to..now I can appreciate the lessons..:)

Krisco 01-19-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1386443)
Soror, this is a deeper discussion that has been addressed by our national chaplain. Try doing a search here and in the Omega forum on Christian principles, Christian-based, Minerva, etc. You will see both sides of the argument. And remember that not all sorors are Christian.



So true, I will definitely dig in deeper for personal reflection...as I need the dual representation when looking at issues! Thanks for directing me in the right way:)

dreadhead1913 01-19-2007 11:47 PM

There are 2 sides to every story, and we have only heard 1 side. The fact that the OP felt the need to discuss this sensitive issue on a public message board (there are private boards) leads me to believe that there is much more going on.

MaMaBuddha 02-04-2007 12:18 AM

hey people....
 
ColorfulCre8ion...

it's been a minute since i've been on greekchat. :D thanks for pm'ing me.

i really do miss the greekchat, but alas work calls and blocks all websites.

plus i do so much work in the LBGT communities...there are not enough hours in the day.

now....

i am very sorry to hear about what's going on with your chapter. :mad: honestly, i don't think contacting the nationals will be able to do much. unfortunately, you can't force people to like or accept your lifestyle. you just asked that they respect you.

this will be a long battle that seems like it will never end; asking people to accept you for who you are and not caring about what goes on in you bedroom. frankly, it is none of their business and i am sure you are an outstanding soror that does her part in the chapter.:cool:

transferring would just let them know that they won. so do not let them discourage you. is there a LGBT on campus? talk with them.

there are a few replies that were on the money and then there are a few typical replies that are to be expected.

people feel like you owe them explanations about your sexuality. you don't. heterosexual individuals everyday freely express how they feel and how they like. i can't count how many times i've seen pictures of sexy men on this forum and lord if i post my idea of a sexy women, all hell would break loose. if homosexuals do, it's called forcing it down people's throats and wearing it on your sleeve. people are not use it to. me personally, i make them use to it.;)

i am also very disappointed that this happens to be a joke in the probate shows. i am even more disappointed that your LS's don't have your back. it's childish and ridiculous. makes me wonder what backward ass school allows this to happen. maybe you do need to transferr, to a more diverse school.

last but not least, you did post in this forum and there are more seasoned sorors on here. don't expect all soror's to understand. it's all constructive criticism. take it put it under your hat, but don't let it discourage you.

there are several greeks in the life from all Divine 9. you would so surprised. i will send you a link to a few websites that cater to us. you will be surprise who you meet and the positions they hold in their respective fraternities and sororities.

Senusret I, *muah*

i would definitely kick behind on that campus...you know i don't play. i gets my respect from everyone. i will be in DC february 17, visiting some sorors. we definitely have to get up. one of our sorors does a fantastic party @ The Republic Gardens for the community.

ColorfulCre8ion 02-04-2007 12:42 AM

*HUGS* (((MamaBuddah)))! You are amazing and yes I would love to receive those sites. Thanks so much, I heard great things about you from Sensuret I. Anyway I appreciate the support, please keep in contact with me. Thanks again :);) :D

MaMaBuddha 02-04-2007 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ColorfulCre8ion (Post 1394277)
*HUGS* (((MamaBuddah)))! You are amazing and yes I would love to receive those sites. Thanks so much, I heard great things about you from Sensuret I. Anyway I appreciate the support, please keep in contact with me. Thanks again :);) :D


awww..you gonna bring tears to my eyes....:o

ladygreek 02-04-2007 03:52 PM

{{{Ma Ma Buddah}}}
Yay, you're back. And belated Happy Born Day by the way.

Girl, don't forsake us again. :D

MaMaBuddha 02-04-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1394378)
{{{Ma Ma Buddah}}}
Yay, you're back. And belated Happy Born Day by the way.

Girl, don't forsake us again. :D

ladygreek,

i miss your wisdom and words. i will definitely pop in a little more often. and not only for the LBGT causes. ;)

DSTsFBI 06-05-2008 10:25 PM

This is why the membership intake process is so impportant...It is supposed to be a time when the line members get to know each other. It is supposed to be a time when prospective members learn to at least respect each other....Obviously, this person's line was not at close as they should've been....I must admit that one of my deepest fears during my membership intake process was that once we crossed, we would become distant from each other....

DSTCHAOS 06-05-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTsFBI (Post 1663969)
This is why the membership intake process is so impportant...It is supposed to be a time when the line members get to know each other. It is supposed to be a time when prospective members learn to at least respect each other....Obviously, this person's line was not at close as they should've been....I must admit that one of my deepest fears during my membership intake process was that once we crossed, we would become distant from each other....

Welcome to GC. :)

Please don't revive old threads where you aren't adding anything substantively new.

Welcome to GC. :)

Dionysus 06-05-2008 10:44 PM

I wish the OP would've stuck around. :( I'm curious to know what happened and if everything worked out alright.


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