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PrettyBoy 11-29-2006 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1363269)
Ok, I know I'm a little late to the thread, but I feel like maybe I can explain why the question was offensive. I find it unbelievable that so many female posters couldn't understand why someone could find the question offensive. I think that it may be the objectification of a man that some can't wrap their heads around...like how people can't wrap their heads around the idea of a man being sexually harrassed or raped by a woman ("Oh, he's a man, he probably enjoyed it. Oh, he should just man up and stop whining and complaining"). But objectification based on race is not that different from objectification based on gender. As women, it should be offensive to see anyone (man or woman, black or white) reduced to just the sum of their sex organs.

Since I think a lot of people are having issues understanding the objectification of men, let me explain it from a female perspective. Black men and Asian women are opposites sides of the same coin. Both have the stereotype of being hypersexualized. And people without first hand knowledge probably don't understand what the big deal it. They think we should be flattered that someone finds us attractive based on our race. And it's like "Gee, who wouldn't be flattered that some guy has lumped me and every other Asian female in the world together and thinks that we're all a bunch of submissive, porcelein-skinned sex dolls?"

By definition, a fetish is an OBJECT that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. Now, that's fine and dandy when the object of your fetish is a shoe or a whip or an enema or an adult diaper or some other freaky stuff. But when you have a fetish about a race of people, suddenly we're talking about human beings here. When you fetishize a race of people, you're saying that they're objects...that one black man is interchangable for another...that one Asian girl is interchangable for another...that you're not into that person because of their charm, wit, personality, kindness, compassion, generosity, etc. It's to the point where I'm wary and suspicious of every Caucasian guy that approaches me or shows interest in me (I have encountered African-American and Latino guys with "yellow fever" but the vast majority of the time, it's Caucasian guys). At the back of my mind is always the question of is he interested because he thinks I'm cute, funny, sweet, cool, etc. or is he interested because he wants to "experience" a yellow girl and any yellow girl will do?

I know that some people may think that I'm over-reacting but until you've experienced this sort of thing on a persistent basis, I don't think you can really understand it. This whole idea of racial fetishism and eroticism really pisses me off, both as a minority and as a female. I hope I was able to shed more light on the topic. I wanted to go more in depth, but I'm going to be late for work....maybe later if the thread isn't shut down.

You really broke it down. Point well said. I can't agree more.

PrettyBoy 11-29-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363320)
Jeff Gordon is everything bad about NASCAR. He whines, cries and yells at his own team. Like everyone else at Hendrix, he wouldnt win anything without his team.

That's why he has 75 wins and 4 championships.

PrettyBoy 11-29-2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363381)
Is that nervous laughter over the audacity or did you really piss in your boots over it?

What????? Do you even understand yourself???

PrettyBoy 11-29-2006 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy (Post 1363323)
A book I'm reading now talked about the same thing, actually.

What's the name of the book?

shinerbock 11-29-2006 12:50 AM

Hendrix Motorsports=Reason he has 4 championships.

DSTCHAOS 11-29-2006 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1363726)
What????? Do you even understand yourself???

Yes. But since your mule side has kicked in, I'll rephrase: "Was it literally funny or figuratively funny?"

whiteandblack 11-29-2006 10:04 AM

^^^ LMAO. DSTCHAOS, it seems that cluelessness runs rampant in this thread.

Rudey 12-02-2006 02:45 PM

I would just like to add that Asian tang is usually loose and sloppy.

And yes, white girls are definitely all about their fake breasts. Ask any dude.

-Rudey

BobbyTheDon 12-02-2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1365345)
And yes, white girls are definitely all about their fake breasts. Ask any dude.

-Rudey

white girl. white. white girl. whiiiiiiiiiiite girrrrl

oooh i throw tha yola in tha pot let it simmer n bave
add a lil bakin soda make it foam like after shave
i like to serve my dope wet cuz it weigh a hella lot more
u can smell the residue n the fumes from next do'
turf superstar, microwaves n pickle jars
potrtable digital scales, custom painted muscle cars
pimpin where the razor blade? use a saftey pin
what they goin fo'? nigga wutchu trynna spend?
when its a drought, i jus sit on my dope n wait
for the prices to sky rocket and rise like real estate
i got dat icecream, that candy, that girl, that white white white
my christler charger 2006 hemi tight tight tight
im a d-boi (booch) i thought u knew
jus like every other mother fucker in my crew
bundle in the bushes, chop her up in the tree
Ak will light up ur chest like ET

now let me introduce the world to my girl
she white, she bright, she shines like a pearl
and i aint talkin bout Lindsay Lohan
im talkin bout that sniff, that blow man
that 1 hit that will get u open
might make ur nose bleed if it's potaint
so if ur not ready, homie dont tamper with it
she da chick who had Tony Montana slippin
she so bad, she make u mad
but soon as u get that, she make u cash (that white girl)
but she aint always that light, she aint always that bright, she aint always that white
gimme 1 girl, i mean 1 gram
I'll teach u how to give a white girl a sun tan
put it in that pot, till it get dat hot, then start tha Sir-Mix-Alot (ight)


well down in the dirty.....south to be exact
gettin money with white girls is a well known fact
i like 'em black, brown, puerto rican or asian
but nothin bring the bread back like a caucasian
weather winter fall summer or spring
the white gurls always down for doin the damn thing
put her on the highway, she aint no punk
gotta white girl drivin with white gurls in the trunk
i aint lyin its the best thing goin
when my white gurls around its always snowin
mama cant stand her tellin me to switch
sayin imma go to jail fuckin with that white bitch
always around to keep me paid
with some white girls on my team i got it made
so if ur down on ur luck n got no money
then do what i do go get u a snow bunny


i got the pirex workin with the white girl in it
its the dope super bowl n nigga im bout to win it
??
when we through with this badge we goin out to the bahamas
i keep a silk braud wen im fuckin wit the hard
cuz the never get stopped my the motha fuckin cops
fools look hard but the bitches is fraud
dont like to see me ball, want me to go rock from rock
move around bitch u need to get out the way
i keep a young suzi when its time to move yay
u need to learn the game before u try to play
like cab gone those laws will take u away
so i keep me a snow bunny ridin in the front
with a triple zillion head in a platnum cup
u already know they eat nuts like a squrril
lemme hit u in ur head n bust nuts in ur curl white girl


now tell me. is this song really about white girls? or something else? hmmm think about this one

PrettyBoy 12-03-2006 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363731)
Hendrix Motorsports=Reason he has 4 championships.

Jeff Gordon=Why Rick Hendrick has 6 championships. Jimmy Johnson 1
Terry Labonte 1 and Jeff 4.

Hendrick Motorsports was Founded in 1984. No championships won until Jeff came on the seen and won it for Rick Hendrick in 1995. It's all about JG.

shinerbock 12-03-2006 05:43 AM

Jimmie has been a winner since on board. Kyle won w/ Hendrix too. I think JG is easily the most talented Hendrix driver, but if he didn't have that shop, his entire career would be different. Actually it may have been more interesting, considering he'd have to race like a man to pull out victories. Name some times when JJ or JG pulled great moves to win a race, I'll wait patiently. I didn't happen. Never does. The last time JG was in a race like that was Dega a few years back, and the fact that Jr. would have passed him if the race had ended with a single green lap is what led NASCAR to implement the green-white-checkered.

PrettyBoy 12-03-2006 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1365557)
Jimmie has been a winner since on board. Kyle won w/ Hendrix too. I think JG is easily the most talented Hendrix driver, but if he didn't have that shop, his entire career would be different. Actually it may have been more interesting, considering he'd have to race like a man to pull out victories. Name some times when JJ or JG pulled great moves to win a race, I'll wait patiently. I didn't happen. Never does. The last time JG was in a race like that was Dega a few years back, and the fact that Jr. would have passed him if the race had ended with a single green lap is what led NASCAR to implement the green-white-checkered.

You're right, and I can't argue with on that. Those are great points you made, and a great team is very important for a driver to win races. No Jeff wouldn't be "THE" Jeff Gordon without a great crew, but I think his team wouldn't be good without him either. If the team is really good, and the crew chief always puts great cars on the track for the driver, but the driver sucks, then that team doesn't really serve a purpose. I'll use Jeremy Mayfield as an example. He made the chase the 1st year and 2nd year, but he still sucks as a driver. Evernham Motorsports is strong and rich, but Mayfield who sucks doesn't do his team any justice. If it wasn't for Jeff, Hendrick would be just above average. They would be good, but not as well known as they are with JG.

JJ pulled a great move at Las Vegas by only leading one lap to barely pass Matt Kenseth at the beginning of the season.

Jeff Gordon pulled a great move at Daytona in 1997 and passed Dale Earnhardt, and he won. I have that race on DVD. It was a bold move, but it worked. Earnhardt's car flipped 7 times I think, because of the move. I think it was kind of wrong on JG's part but it was still an exciting move and won him the Daytona 500 making him the youngest driver to win the Daytona 500. I know that was 10 years ago for Jeff, but why would he need to make dangerous or exciting moves to win now? He has 4 championships, he doesn't really need another one. I don't think he will be as daring as he once was. There really isn't a need for that now.

Tony got hurt at the beginning of the season, and Ricky Rudd drove a couple of races for him. If this didn't happen, do you think Tony would have won a consecutive championship. I think he would have. He was winning races in the chase even though he didn't make the chase this year. I think Johnson would have finished 2nd again.

starang21 12-08-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363052)
white men preserved white women's purity by taking advantage of black women's sexuality.

hey....

that's not why I do it.

:o

DSTCHAOS 12-08-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1368514)
hey....

that's not why I do it.

:o

you're the yellowist white man i've ever seen

and you don't take advantage of anything but your calculator

starang21 12-08-2006 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1368575)
you're the yellowist white man i've ever seen

and you don't take advantage of anything but your calculator

olivest dammit.

ain't that the damn truth.

<==posterboy for fumbled oppurtunities.

:(

DSTCHAOS 12-08-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1368679)
olivest dammit.

ain't that the damn truth.

<==posterboy for fumbled oppurtunities.

:(

Shame on you for ignoring the smart Asian stereotype.

starang21 12-09-2006 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1368693)
Shame on you for ignoring the smart Asian stereotype.

^^^^^slickly called me stupid

:(

cheerfulgreek 12-09-2006 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1365562)
You're right, and I can't argue with on that. Those are great points you made, and a great team is very important for a driver to win races. No Jeff wouldn't be "THE" Jeff Gordon without a great crew, but I think his team wouldn't be good without him either. If the team is really good, and the crew chief always puts great cars on the track for the driver, but the driver sucks, then that team doesn't really serve a purpose. I'll use Jeremy Mayfield as an example. He made the chase the 1st year and 2nd year, but he still sucks as a driver. Evernham Motorsports is strong and rich, but Mayfield who sucks doesn't do his team any justice. If it wasn't for Jeff, Hendrick would be just above average. They would be good, but not as well known as they are with JG.

JJ pulled a great move at Las Vegas by only leading one lap to barely pass Matt Kenseth at the beginning of the season.

Jeff Gordon pulled a great move at Daytona in 1997 and passed Dale Earnhardt, and he won. I have that race on DVD. It was a bold move, but it worked. Earnhardt's car flipped 7 times I think, because of the move. I think it was kind of wrong on JG's part but it was still an exciting move and won him the Daytona 500 making him the youngest driver to win the Daytona 500. I know that was 10 years ago for Jeff, but why would he need to make dangerous or exciting moves to win now? He has 4 championships, he doesn't really need another one. I don't think he will be as daring as he once was. There really isn't a need for that now.

Tony got hurt at the beginning of the season, and Ricky Rudd drove a couple of races for him. If this didn't happen, do you think Tony would have won a consecutive championship. I think he would have. He was winning races in the chase even though he didn't make the chase this year. I think Johnson would have finished 2nd again.

This thread isn't about NASCAR!

PrettyBoy 12-09-2006 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1368760)
This thread isn't about NASCAR!

I know. This thread is about something so stupid we found something else to talk about.

Oh, by the way, did you find a black guy to screw yet?:rolleyes:

cheerfulgreek 12-09-2006 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1368767)
I know. This thread is about something so stupid we found something else to talk about.

Oh, by the way, did you find a black guy to screw yet?:rolleyes:

If it's so stupid why did you respond to it, and to answer your question, I wasn't looking asshole!

PrettyBoy 12-09-2006 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1368768)
If it's so stupid why did you respond to it, and to answer your question, I wasn't looking asshole!

Ohhh. LOL. You use such harsh words...:D

AlphaFrog 12-09-2006 08:29 AM

This thread makes the pics of Britney with Paris on her birthday look classy.

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1368768)
If it's so stupid why did you respond to it, and to answer your question, I wasn't looking asshole!


There are a lot of dumb threads with posts.

AlexMack 12-09-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1368767)
I know. This thread is about something so stupid we found something else to talk about.

Oh, by the way, did you find a black guy to screw yet?:rolleyes:

NASCAR is a good redneck sport :D

thesweetestone 12-09-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1368768)
If it's so stupid why did you respond to it, and to answer your question, I wasn't looking asshole!

lol! That's lettin 'em know

PiKA2001 12-09-2006 02:11 PM

This is really being reported in the news....


NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Condoms designed to meet international size specifications are too big for many Indian men as their penises fall short of what manufacturers had anticipated, an Indian study has found.

The Indian Council of Medical Research, a leading state-run center, said its initial findings from a two-year study showed 60 percent of men in the financial capital Mumbai had penises about 2.4 cm (one inch) shorter than those condoms catered for.

For a further 30 percent, the difference was at least 5 cm (two inches). A poor fit meant the prophylactics often didn't do the job they were bought for, and led to some tearing or slipping off during use.

"One of the reasons for a failure of up to 20 percent (of condoms) is the association of the size of the condom to the erect penis," the council's Dr. Chander Puri told Reuters, adding another reason was couples often put them on in a hurry.

Puri said many men in India, which has the world's highest HIV positive caseload, were too shy to ask for condoms.

"We need more vending machines for condoms of different sizes so people can pick a condom with confidence that is suited to their needs," he said.

The Times of India reported the ICMR survey had studied 1,400 men between 18-50 years of age in cities like Mumbai and New Delhi as well as in rural areas in a report. It entitled its story "Indian men don't measure up."

PrettyBoy 12-10-2006 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1368840)
NASCAR is a good redneck sport :D

Not really.

sdsuchelle 12-10-2006 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1368876)
This is really being reported in the news....


NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Condoms designed to meet international size specifications are too big for many Indian men as their penises fall short of what manufacturers had anticipated, an Indian study has found.

The Indian Council of Medical Research, a leading state-run center, said its initial findings from a two-year study showed 60 percent of men in the financial capital Mumbai had penises about 2.4 cm (one inch) shorter than those condoms catered for.

For a further 30 percent, the difference was at least 5 cm (two inches). A poor fit meant the prophylactics often didn't do the job they were bought for, and led to some tearing or slipping off during use.

"One of the reasons for a failure of up to 20 percent (of condoms) is the association of the size of the condom to the erect penis," the council's Dr. Chander Puri told Reuters, adding another reason was couples often put them on in a hurry.

Puri said many men in India, which has the world's highest HIV positive caseload, were too shy to ask for condoms.

"We need more vending machines for condoms of different sizes so people can pick a condom with confidence that is suited to their needs," he said.

The Times of India reported the ICMR survey had studied 1,400 men between 18-50 years of age in cities like Mumbai and New Delhi as well as in rural areas in a report. It entitled its story "Indian men don't measure up."

Hahaha I saw that on SNL tonight. That sucks.

How are they going to name the differently sized condoms, though? Extra large, large, medium, small, extra-small? Can you imagine? LMAO

AKA_Monet 12-11-2006 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1363269)
Ok, I know I'm a little late to the thread, but I feel like maybe I can explain why the question was offensive. I find it unbelievable that so many female posters couldn't understand why someone could find the question offensive. I think that it may be the objectification of a man that some can't wrap their heads around...like how people can't wrap their heads around the idea of a man being sexually harrassed or raped by a woman ("Oh, he's a man, he probably enjoyed it. Oh, he should just man up and stop whining and complaining"). But objectification based on race is not that different from objectification based on gender. As women, it should be offensive to see anyone (man or woman, black or white) reduced to just the sum of their sex organs.

Since I think a lot of people are having issues understanding the objectification of men, let me explain it from a female perspective. Black men and Asian women are opposites sides of the same coin. Both have the stereotype of being hypersexualized. And people without first hand knowledge probably don't understand what the big deal it. They think we should be flattered that someone finds us attractive based on our race. And it's like "Gee, who wouldn't be flattered that some guy has lumped me and every other Asian female in the world together and thinks that we're all a bunch of submissive, porcelein-skinned sex dolls?"

By definition, a fetish is an OBJECT that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. Now, that's fine and dandy when the object of your fetish is a shoe or a whip or an enema or an adult diaper or some other freaky stuff. But when you have a fetish about a race of people, suddenly we're talking about human beings here. When you fetishize a race of people, you're saying that they're objects...that one black man is interchangable for another...that one Asian girl is interchangable for another...that you're not into that person because of their charm, wit, personality, kindness, compassion, generosity, etc. It's to the point where I'm wary and suspicious of every Caucasian guy that approaches me or shows interest in me (I have encountered African-American and Latino guys with "yellow fever" but the vast majority of the time, it's Caucasian guys). At the back of my mind is always the question of is he interested because he thinks I'm cute, funny, sweet, cool, etc. or is he interested because he wants to "experience" a yellow girl and any yellow girl will do?

I know that some people may think that I'm over-reacting but until you've experienced this sort of thing on a persistent basis, I don't think you can really understand it. This whole idea of racial fetishism and eroticism really pisses me off, both as a minority and as a female. I hope I was able to shed more light on the topic. I wanted to go more in depth, but I'm going to be late for work....maybe later if the thread isn't shut down.

You so eloquently stated your position. Thank you.

And, no, you are not yellow...

You are a human being with feelings, desires, achievements, concepts, goals and dreams.

I hope you accomplish all your aspirations.

I am just saying this because I have all kinna young people in college coming to me telling me these same things and I don't know why I am compelled to uplift the years of engrained self-depreciating societal bigotry...

If anything, the original poster has an extremely low self-esteem in my PROFESSIONAL OPINION... I would refer her to psycheval.

AlexMack 12-11-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1369139)
Not really.

No it is. Period.

PrettyBoy 12-14-2006 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1369587)
No it is. Period.

No it's not. There are still some red neck fans, but it's not anywhere near as bad as it was years ago. NASCAR is a very different sport today.

DSTCHAOS 12-14-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1371210)
No it's not. There are still some red neck fans, but it's not anywhere near as bad as it was years ago. NASCAR is a very different sport today.

It is different and a lot of that has to do with changing corporate sponsorship. There are more minority fans and so forth.

But it's still very much a white, working class sport.

Tom Earp 12-14-2006 04:22 PM

So?

No, I never dated a Black man! A Black lady yes!

DSTCHAOS 12-14-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1371427)
So?

No, I never dated a Black man! A Black lady yes!


:confused: :confused:

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 12-14-2006 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1371427)
So?

No, I never dated a Black man! A Black lady yes!

Have you dated a white man????

mulattogyrl 12-14-2006 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9 (Post 1371475)
Have you dated a white man????

LOL

To answer the original question...I doubt it. Your question is answered. Carry on.

valkyrie 12-14-2006 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9 (Post 1371475)
Have you dated a white man????

YES BUT HE WAS INFLATABLE SO IT DOES NOT COUNT. :D :cool: :rolleyes: :eek:

KSigkid 12-14-2006 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1371427)
So?

No, I never dated a Black man! A Black lady yes!

http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~bites/lollers.jpg

DSTCHAOS 12-14-2006 11:57 PM

What the hell? LOL. :p :D :eek:

AlexMack 12-15-2006 12:49 AM

I know a black person that means I can say racist things because i know a black person and that means i am not racist shut the hell up none of u know what ur talkin' about lololol :rolleyes::rolleyes::mad::mad::D


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