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kddani 09-20-2006 06:38 AM

This thread reminds me of this thread: http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...highlight=lame

Not only in content, but in the sheer bullheadedness of the OP of each poster in the thread. They each say they're just asking for different opinions. But then when someone gives an opinion they don't like, they try to convert them and argue and argue.

OtterXO 09-20-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1323908)
I don't think anyone is wrong. Everyone has their own opinion. I didn't say all women, I said most women are like this. You're right I have my own opinion, and I'm not trying to change yours. In fact from reading the post I don't think anyone really disageed with me, I just think a lot of women have the wrong definition of a nice man. I don't think a nice man is a doormat.

Actually you did say all women. You said
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Based on these post it seems to me that women feel this is the definition of a strong man.
And based on that statement I said
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you are completely wrong.
Seriously, take a look at the thread that kddani posted the link to.....because it's basically the same type of circular conversation that we're having here. Maybe it's a result of my legal training, but a circular conversation isn't really equal to a debate in my mind.

KAY10 09-22-2006 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO (Post 1324037)
Actually you did say all women. You said And based on that statement I said

Seriously, take a look at the thread that kddani posted the link to.....because it's basically the same type of circular conversation that we're having here. Maybe it's a result of my legal training, but a circular conversation isn't really equal to a debate in my mind.

That's cool. You and kddani are entitled to your opinions. In my mind I think it's a good topic.

kddani 09-22-2006 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1325445)
That's cool. You and kddani are entitled to your opinions. In my mind I think it's a good topic.

It's not even the topic. It's the way you keep trying to battle everyone.

AlphaFrog 09-22-2006 08:15 AM

If you are a guy who complains about women who don't like "nice guys" you have a 90% chance of being a doormat, not a "nice guy".

KAY10 09-23-2006 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1325496)
If you are a guy who complains about women who don't like "nice guys" you have a 90% chance of being a doormat, not a "nice guy".

I'm more confused than complaining. They like the thugs young, and then when they get older they want a nice guy they can settle down with. Some women. I know some who are with gentleman. I've never been a doormat, but I have always been a gentleman.

RU OX Alum 09-26-2006 10:25 AM

why do good girls like bad guys? knowing that bad guys tell mad lies

Langox510x 09-26-2006 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1310039)
Can someone please tell me why women like bad boys???:confused: You know, the thugs, losers, guys that mistreat women.:confused: Hey fellas have you ever heard this: "Oh he's cute and all, he's just too nice." What the hell.:confused:


Hey, I thought KAPPA's were the ladies men, the pretty boys on every campus, and all the Kappa's I know are a little dogish to the females, lol!

No disrespect though, my dad's a Kappa, and I can't see him having ever disrespected a lady.

Anyways, my friend Elizabeth who has been my friend for about a year now is in a pretty bad situation. She is extremely pretty might I add, and is with this dude who is older and isn't even in college and told her the other week if she didn't do what he said he would just go out and cheat on her. He's called her fat, ugly, a child (shes 19) and has broken up with her thousands of times. I'll admit I haven't always been the good guy when it comes to the ladies but this guy is a joke.

I'm not ever overly nice to her, but I tried to stand up for her ad she ended up getting mad at me. One thing that gets me is how her roommate and this other girl told me Elizabeth should be with me and how I was far hotter then her boyfriend too. I guess I'm just the good guy and the good guy never gets the girl.

starang21 09-26-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1327685)
Hey, I thought KAPPA's were the ladies men, the pretty boys on every campus, and all the Kappa's I know are a little dogish to the females, lol!

No disrespect though, my dad's a Kappa, and I can't see him having ever disrespected a lady.

Anyways, my friend Elizabeth who has been my friend for about a year now is in a pretty bad situation. She is extremely pretty might I add, and is with this dude who is older and isn't even in college and told her the other week if she didn't do what he said he would just go out and cheat on her. He's called her fat, ugly, a child (shes 19) and has broken up with her thousands of times. I'll admit I haven't always been the good guy when it comes to the ladies but this guy is a joke.

I'm not ever overly nice to her, but I tried to stand up for her ad she ended up getting mad at me. One thing that gets me is how her roommate and this other girl told me Elizabeth should be with me and how I was far hotter then her boyfriend too. I guess I'm just the good guy and the good guy never gets the girl.

your friend's problem is that she's an idiot for staying.

Langox510x 09-26-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1327742)
your friend's problem is that she's an idiot for staying.

I don't blame you for saying that. I thought she was far stronger then that, and I even admit I've lost much respect for her myself.

KAY10 09-27-2006 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1327685)
Hey, I thought KAPPA's were the ladies men, the pretty boys on every campus, and all the Kappa's I know are a little dogish to the females, lol!

No disrespect though, my dad's a Kappa, and I can't see him having ever disrespected a lady.

Anyways, my friend Elizabeth who has been my friend for about a year now is in a pretty bad situation. She is extremely pretty might I add, and is with this dude who is older and isn't even in college and told her the other week if she didn't do what he said he would just go out and cheat on her. He's called her fat, ugly, a child (shes 19) and has broken up with her thousands of times. I'll admit I haven't always been the good guy when it comes to the ladies but this guy is a joke.

I'm not ever overly nice to her, but I tried to stand up for her ad she ended up getting mad at me. One thing that gets me is how her roommate and this other girl told me Elizabeth should be with me and how I was far hotter then her boyfriend too. I guess I'm just the good guy and the good guy never gets the girl.

LOL. Yeah, Kappas have the "Pretty Boy" image nation wide and yes we are also considered to be players. Genltemen, but players.:p Fortunately not all of us are this way. I'm not. I am a pretty boy though.:p At least the ladies think I am.;) Seriously though the girl you were talking about will more than likely stay with guys like the one she's currently with until she's about 25. I don't know why they like guys like that. You're right though, the good guys rarely get the women, and if they do, it's never long, at least not when their young.

KAY10 09-27-2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1325478)
It's not even the topic. It's the way you keep trying to battle everyone.

I'm not trying to battle anyone. I'm just trying to have a conversation and get other opinions. No one has to agree with me. If you don't like this thread then ignore it. Good grief!

KAY10 09-27-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1327667)
why do good girls like bad guys? knowing that bad guys tell mad lies

I have no idea. From what I've been reading some of them think good guys are doormats, and a couple of them are pissed at me for posting this thread.:p

KAY10 09-27-2006 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1327742)
your friend's problem is that she's an idiot for staying.

LMAO:D

sisterzip 09-28-2006 07:43 PM

I am not into guys that misstreet neglect or abuse me...thats for sure. However my ex boyfriend had no back bone. He told me that mre stuff like it was ok if I cheated on him. That was a bit of a turn off. The guy I am intereted in now drives me insane sometimes because he can be insensitive and a smarta**. However when it comes down to big things he has a heart. Thats an important thing. if the guy does not know where to draw the line between friendly teasing and plain verbal/emotional abuse there is a problem.

AKA_Monet 09-28-2006 09:02 PM

Ladies...
 
kddani, otterOX and Alphafrog:

KAY10 is just a "lil boy" ;) (if you know what I mean)... Just like a horse... He still needs to be "broken in", trained (potty-wise and otherwise), and other things required for his "maturity".

You just take his questioning in "stride" and ask him if he could handle the "sets of nine" for at least 10-20 minutes... :rolleyes:

KAY10-

Really sweetheart, there are plenty of young ladies out there with everything going for them that get caught up with the "thugs". Folks have written songs, books and movies.

I guess most women are hardheaded and just give up on themselves for lame as reasons.

But even though you say you aren't a thug, but your not a doormat, then what are you? A player? That makes you cavorting with the "thug enemy"--kinda sneaky...

KAY10 09-29-2006 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1329620)
kddani, otterOX and Alphafrog:

KAY10 is just a "lil boy" ;) (if you know what I mean)... Just like a horse... He still needs to be "broken in", trained (potty-wise and otherwise), and other things required for his "maturity".

You just take his questioning in "stride" and ask him if he could handle the "sets of nine" for at least 10-20 minutes... :rolleyes:

KAY10-

Really sweetheart, there are plenty of young ladies out there with everything going for them that get caught up with the "thugs". Folks have written songs, books and movies.

I guess most women are hardheaded and just give up on themselves for lame as reasons.

But even though you say you aren't a thug, but your not a doormat, then what are you? A player? That makes you cavorting with the "thug enemy"--kinda sneaky...

LOL. I'm more mature than you think. That little sets of nine??? That was funny. Well...I'm not a thug and I'm not a doormat. A player???? I don't consider myself a player, but I have had my share of AKAs:p

KAY10 09-29-2006 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sisterzip (Post 1329583)
I am not into guys that misstreet neglect or abuse me...thats for sure. However my ex boyfriend had no back bone. He told me that mre stuff like it was ok if I cheated on him. That was a bit of a turn off. The guy I am intereted in now drives me insane sometimes because he can be insensitive and a smarta**. However when it comes down to big things he has a heart. Thats an important thing. if the guy does not know where to draw the line between friendly teasing and plain verbal/emotional abuse there is a problem.

You were with a guy that wouldn't care if you cheated on him? Damn.

AKA_Monet 09-29-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1329897)
LOL. I'm more mature than you think. That little sets of nine??? That was funny. Well...I'm not a thug and I'm not a doormat. A player???? I don't consider myself a player, but I have had my share of AKAs:p

Well, you know they always say...

There is always a Kappa between an AKA... ;)

Alpha to the right of me,
Kappa to the left of me,
Alpha in front of me!


A-K-A all over my body!!!

KAY10 09-29-2006 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1330394)
Well, you know they always say...

There is always a Kappa between an AKA... ;)

Alpha to the right of me,
Kappa to the left of me,
Alpha in front of me!


A-K-A all over my body!!!

LOL. O.K. You got me. That's kool though, I like the AKAs.

BlessedOne04 09-30-2006 01:07 AM

Personally bad boys don't peak my interest...anymore. In my wayward days I would have jumped at the chance to have a bad boy. As I got older I learned that bad boys do bad things and I'm not in to that at all!!

KAY10 09-30-2006 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04 (Post 1330652)
Personally bad boys don't peak my interest...anymore. In my wayward days I would have jumped at the chance to have a bad boy. As I got older I learned that bad boys do bad things and I'm not in to that at all!!

Yeah, that's kool. Don't give em' the time a day.

Langox510x 09-30-2006 12:38 PM

I'm one happy motherfucker, but last night was crazy!! I was just chillen at a party and then I ran into my friend Liz (the girl I talked about before) and her boyfriend. They were fighting and he pushed her (accross the room). Needless to say I was drunk pissed and ready to fight. I was with about 5 pledges who saw the whole thing and were down to beat this b!tch down too. The only thing that was holding me back was the fact that I knew she would just get angry at me. I had to hold these guys back, but I swear if he ever touches here again I will damn near kill that man!!

Sad thing is that I later saw her trying to appologize for what he did.

Damn, I'm sorry for my sterotype, but that shit woulda never happened if it was a black girl.

VandalSquirrel 09-30-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1330757)
I'm one happy motherfucker, but last night was crazy!! I was just chillen at a party and then I ran into my friend Liz (the girl I talked about before) and her boyfriend. They were fighting and he pushed her (accross the room). Needless to say I was drunk pissed and ready to fight. I was with about 5 pledges who saw the whole thing and were down to beat this b!tch down too. The only thing that was holding me back was the fact that I knew she would just get angry at me. I had to hold these guys back, but I swear if he ever touches here again I will damn near kill that man!!

Sad thing is that I later saw her trying to appologize for what he did.

Damn, I'm sorry for my sterotype, but that shit woulda never happened if it was a black girl.

Apologizing for making a stereotype doesn't make it okay.

James 09-30-2006 06:01 PM

The stereotype he is mentioning in his post is that he doesn't believe a black girl would allow herself to be manhandled by a boyfriend. He is an entitlted to a non-atacking opinion.

His language is certainly off-color but nothing that hasn't bee seen on here before. Do you really believe that his post needs to be edited?

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1330893)
Apologizing for making a stereotype doesn't make it okay.


VandalSquirrel 09-30-2006 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1330899)
The stereotype he is mentioning in his post is that he doesn't believe a black girl would allow herself to be manhandled by a boyfriend. He is an entitlted to a non-atacking opinion.

His language is certainly off-color but nothing that hasn't bee seen on here before. Do you really believe that his post needs to be edited?

I believe you need to be a moderator and enforce the TOS.

KAY10 09-30-2006 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1330757)
I'm one happy motherfucker, but last night was crazy!! I was just chillen at a party and then I ran into my friend Liz (the girl I talked about before) and her boyfriend. They were fighting and he pushed her (accross the room). Needless to say I was drunk pissed and ready to fight. I was with about 5 pledges who saw the whole thing and were down to beat this b!tch down too. The only thing that was holding me back was the fact that I knew she would just get angry at me. I had to hold these guys back, but I swear if he ever touches here again I will damn near kill that man!!

Sad thing is that I later saw her trying to appologize for what he did.

Damn, I'm sorry for my sterotype, but that shit woulda never happened if it was a black girl.

Dude, I went to a black college and stuff like that happens to black women too.

pinkies up 10-01-2006 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1330977)
Dude, I went to a black college and stuff like that happens to black women too.

However we will grab a boxcutter :cool:

KAY10 10-01-2006 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1331005)
However we will grab a boxcutter :cool:

:confused:

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 10-01-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1331005)
However we will grab a boxcutter :cool:

Co-sign....or at least call our cousins to come handle our business...lol....;)

valkyrie 10-02-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1330757)
Damn, I'm sorry for my sterotype, but that shit woulda never happened if it was a black girl.

The fact that your friend was abused by a man has nothing to do with her race.

ShamikaT 10-02-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1331043)
:confused:

Where have you been?

I've always told my girls, if I gets kilt by my man, they better cut him with some boxcutters at my funeral.

DON'T MESS WITH US! :mad:

valkyrie 10-02-2006 07:07 PM

Well, here's a man in a kilt.
 
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Originally Posted by ShamikaT (Post 1331917)
I've always told my girls, if I gets kilt by my man, they better cut him with some boxcutters at my funeral.

http://campbellkilts.co.uk/images/Ca...0Kilt%2005.jpg

Langox510x 10-02-2006 08:13 PM

I was at a party this weekend and my friend Elizabeth was fighting with her boyfriend again. I cut and went to another party, but then a pledge came to me saying she got punched by her boyfriend and pushed all the way to the other side of the room, crashing against the wall. I was pissed, and walked back to fight him, but he was gone. I also didn't know exactly what to do thinking it might only further wreck our friendship. I really don't get this girl though because today she called me up talking about how even though he treats her like shit she still wants to be my friend how much she loved her boyfriend and still wants to be with him. Word for word she said "when things are good me and Mike are really good together".

I’ll let this guy slide for once especially since I didn’t see it, but if I hear about her getting hit again I will beat this man down.

AKA_Monet 10-02-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1331971)
I was at a party this weekend and my friend Elizabeth was fighting with her boyfriend again. I cut and went to another party, but then a pledge came to me saying she got punched by her boyfriend and pushed all the way to the other side of the room, crashing against the wall. I was pissed, and walked back to fight him, but he was gone. I also didn't know exactly what to do thinking it might only further wreck our friendship. I really don't get this girl though because today she called me up talking about how even though he treats her like shit she still wants to be my friend how much she loved her boyfriend and still wants to be with him. Word for word she said "when things are good me and Mike are really good together".

I’ll let this guy slide for once especially since I didn’t see it, but if I hear about her getting hit again I will beat this man down.


Dude,

I am not even close to joking with you about your "friend". As the Chief Resident of GC Hospital I have the following suggestions:
  • 1) You are not a trained and licensed mental health care professional it is not your responsibility to "take charge" and be the man.
  • 2)You can get very hurt that way if you continue to be involved and for what? The girl may still go back to this batterer.
  • 3)There are bijillion websites on how to handle domestic violence issues and there is a case worker at your school or workplace location.
  • 4)The best you can to is tell her you will be there when she needs you by phone, but you will be alerting all authorities. And you do that chit anomynously because they'll think it's you...

I will post a grand rounds on domestic violence if I must... But, you are too young to be dealing with this idiocy, regardless of this girl's ethnicity. If you are her friend, the only thing you can do is report the boyfriend and get the po-po involved. She may never place charges, but at least a record will be started and DSHS will send somebody over.

Sincerely,

Dr. AKA_Monet

starang21 10-02-2006 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Langox510x (Post 1331971)
I was at a party this weekend and my friend Elizabeth was fighting with her boyfriend again. I cut and went to another party, but then a pledge came to me saying she got punched by her boyfriend and pushed all the way to the other side of the room, crashing against the wall. I was pissed, and walked back to fight him, but he was gone. I also didn't know exactly what to do thinking it might only further wreck our friendship. I really don't get this girl though because today she called me up talking about how even though he treats her like shit she still wants to be my friend how much she loved her boyfriend and still wants to be with him. Word for word she said "when things are good me and Mike are really good together".

I’ll let this guy slide for once especially since I didn’t see it, but if I hear about her getting hit again I will beat this man down.


your friend is an idiot

Langox510x 10-02-2006 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1331992)
Dude,

I am not even close to joking with you about your "friend". As the Chief Resident of GC Hospital I have the following suggestions:
  • 1) You are not a trained and licensed mental health care professional it is not your responsibility to "take charge" and be the man.
  • 2)You can get very hurt that way if you continue to be involved and for what? The girl may still go back to this batterer.
  • 3)There are bijillion websites on how to handle domestic violence issues and there is a case worker at your school or workplace location.
  • 4)The best you can to is tell her you will be there when she needs you by phone, but you will be alerting all authorities. And you do that chit anomynously because they'll think it's you...

I will post a grand rounds on domestic violence if I must... But, you are too young to be dealing with this idiocy, regardless of this girl's ethnicity. If you are her friend, the only thing you can do is report the boyfriend and get the po-po involved. She may never place charges, but at least a record will be started and DSHS will send somebody over.

Sincerely,

Dr. AKA_Monet

I can't get hurt by this girl if I don't let her that close to me. The dude is affraid of fighting me too so I don't think he'll be a problem. Oh and I don't mess with cops.

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1331994)
your friend is an idiot

I said the same thing.

BlessedOne04 10-02-2006 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1331994)
your friend is an idiot

She is not an idiot. She may have issues that makes her feel obligated to stay in an abusive relationship.

Langox510x 10-02-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04 (Post 1332008)
She is not an idiot. She may have issues that makes her feel obligated to stay in an abusive relationship.

I can understand a girl who feels like she has nobody, but many and me others have laid that on the table in crystal. I’m not saying she’s an idiot, but honestly I have lost a little respect for her over this. I once thought she was a woman of independence, and would have expected far more then this out of her, but now I feel like she is even shutting me out of the picture. I told her today it feels like I'm trying to help her out and she returns the help with a slap to my face. I don't know how much I can take of this. In a minute she might really be on her own.

starang21 10-02-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04 (Post 1332008)
She is not an idiot. She may have issues that makes her feel obligated to stay in an abusive relationship.

she is an idiot. if she feels obligated to stay in an abusive relationship, then i don't really pity her. she has poor self esteem and no backbone.


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