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Dress codes in public school SHOULD be unconstitutional beyond the "Don't bare anything indecent" line (which is apparently a g-string according to Scalia, so who knows?). Then again, my parents didn't raise me to toe the line and listen to the man. When my dad was in high school (late 60s - early 70s) he got detention ALL THE TIME because he purposely kept his hair just long enough to touch his collar. When my boyfriend was in prep school, he got suspended for creatively interpeting the dress code and shaving all but the top of his hair. They've both gone on to be succesful but they still know a stupid rule when they see it.
I just hope all of you are "willing to face the consequences" when you get a speeding ticket or a lame disorderly conduct ticket rather than asking a lawyer to find you a loophole. However, like RC said, most of us are elitist suburban assholes and I'm sure you'll be calling a lawyer wanting an exception to be made for you. |
^^Any true frat-star or sorostitute should be able to simply hand their attorney the ticket and have him "take care of it." Or just let the police officer know who your dad is and everything should be fine.
- and yes, I am an elitist asshole. |
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It's what I did. It's ok to fight it in court too. But when the judge says GUILTY is it a productive use of your time to appeal it to the Supreme Court? Your 75 dollar ticket is at least 150 after court costs not counting if you actually want to persue the case. Same as that 15 dollar hair dye (if that) is now costing her some grades. It's not a "toe the line" thing. It's a pick your battles and grow up. Sure, break the rules and pay the costs, stupid rule or no, but don't whine about the costs. |
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A rite of passage? No, just I want to be me.!!! That is "our new leaders" in the future! Is it disruptive in class and school (HS) remeber yes! Will people get used to it yes.:eek: Do I if I was an Instructor want to put up with this crap, NO!:mad: If I was a Boss interveiwing a prospect, would I put up with this NO!:mad: See Ya dont want to be Ya!:p Ignorance is in the eye of the beholder and if the beholder is your Instructor or prosepective employee, figure it out! |
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Yeah, we have to have this kinda thing, or else our class system won't hold up...and I like it.
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but so is she i guess at the end of the day i think it is more than okay to challenge stupid rules whereas some people don't - and THAT TOO is okay |
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I don't CARE if she cares... we're discussing it here so I'm discussing. /Don't you remember that when people tell you to pick your battles, they always mean to stop fighting the one that you're going on about now? |
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Yeah, I know it would go to appeals, I was taking the argument to it's conclusion, past appeals etc to the big kahunas in the big old building in DC. The point is, Sure, you can fight it, but you might also lose. And if you fight and lose, usually the consequences are worse than if you'd never fought. (Court fees easily double your average traffic ticket, and you could even go and plead guilty and still pay more) That's not to say you should never fight, but I feel you should make your fight over something more worthwhile than the "injustice" of not being allowed pink hair at school. It's a dress code. Following it does not make you a mindless automaton, it means you can spend your day subtly mocking your clueless teacher, or i dunno, learning something (even if it's only in the book you brought with you to school) but sitting in In school suspension over pink hair is not a productive use of anyones time. And I'm not the only person who would have gotten a big fat "how could you be so stupid" from my parents instead of a "FIGHT THE MAN, BABY" /not the man-baby |
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I don't think you get to tell her what a productive use of her time is. And I'm sorry that your parents didn't care that you had things that were important to you. |
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As for speeding tickets, you're hung up on the number instead of addressing the point. Which, btw is that I WOULD accept the fine or fight it if I thought it was unjust. 2. I'm not telling her anything unless she happens to be on GC. Your comments on this discussion are just as relevant as mine are. In the end they're for THIS community's benefit, not the pink haired girl. and 3. I'm calling Bullshit. You're just trying to be obtuse. My parents very much cared about things important to me. They did not however believe in or teach me that breaking rules because I WANTED to do something was in anyway equivalent to fighting for something IMPORTANT. This girl is not the victim of discrimination based on her race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, disability, etc. She is being required to follow the same rules as the entire student population. If it turned out that this WAS some singular attack on her, my feelings would be different. HOWEVER, as it stands, she violated the dress code, just like hundreds of kids do each day, and is paying the penalty for it. And I believe it is bad parenting on the part of the mother (and/or father) to support her in violating school rules. (Normal every day rules. Not discriminatory or racist rules. Wearing a midriff shirt and daisy dukes would violate the same rule.) |
I mean to type "fight it if I were innocent" but it won't let me edit...
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Thanks for making it personal. I've been talking about the student the entire time. Please keep on topic. I'm glad the girl's back in school now that her hair is, mostly, back to its normal color. School is where she belonged in the first place. |
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15-year-old Lurae Flanary was disciplined at Fossil Ridge High School after she colored her hair bright pink. But because the color was semi-permanent and has faded substantially, she's now allowed back in school. In other words, because it's washed-out pink now, it's okay. Too funny. |
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Also, court costs are often included within the cost of the ticket. |
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I really didn't try to focus on the cost, etc. instead focusing on the point of the issue. Unfortunately, even the best laid metaphors do not always work out. |
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You're going to have to speak a little louder next time, I'm deaf in that ear. |
Just in case anyone was wondering, the girl was let back into school - only because the pink faded and she didn't get it redone.
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I don't really get the "it's distracting" argument. It might be distracting for, say, the first 5 minutes of the first time that you saw her new dye-colour job.
Then the novelty would fade away because everyone would be 'used to it' and everyone could get back to learning their trigonometry or whatever. |
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