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33girl 09-22-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1317371)
Northerners don't even dress up for football games...how are we expected to take them when they don't know how to dress appropriately?

Like KR said, we are dressed appropriately FOR WHERE WE ARE.

Believe me, any of the Ole Miss girls in heels and Lilys would be running to the college bookstore for sweatshirts and blankets halfway through the first quarter if they went to a game up here.

We once had a chapter consultant from the Midwest who wrote on her report that our dress was "very casual" - well, when you are on a campus with hills everywhere and where it rains or snows or mists 5 days out of 7, you're not going to be sporting heels and dress pants or a dress to class.

Hegemon 09-22-2006 12:28 PM

At my alma mater (LSU), fraternity pledges were required to dress up for tailgating and the game. I personally thought this was pretty cruel as these boys were often in suits and it was HOT HOT HOT outside. IMO, it borders on hazing! But that's not the point...If a new member of a sorority was going as the date of one of these boys, she was expected to dress up as well.

That was several years ago and now it seems like dressing up for the games has become more common for all students, whether they are Greek or not. However, the majority of the students still seem to prefer their "Game Day Casual" look :D

ufdale 09-22-2006 02:11 PM

Personally I think it's just as comfy to sit at a game in a sundress than in shorts and a tshirt. nice sundresses are made of lighter material, so they're cooler. Lol we're playing Kentucky tomorrow and I just got a memo saying we were expected to wear orange sundresses (b/c Kentucky's colors are blue and white) and look recruitment ready! lol! They don't make too many gator blue and orange dresses, or orange high heels! I love how nice sorority girls look at games though.

TSteven 09-22-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1325751)
Personally I think it's just as comfy to sit at a game in a sundress than in shorts and a tshirt. nice sundresses are made of lighter material, so they're cooler. Lol we're playing Kentucky tomorrow and I just got a memo saying we were expected to wear orange sundresses (b/c Kentucky's colors are blue and white) and look recruitment ready! lol! They don't make too many gator blue and orange dresses, or orange high heels! I love how nice sorority girls look at games though.

Go Big Blue!

ufdale 09-22-2006 02:19 PM

Can't wait for the game tomorrow! Football season has to be the best time of the year!!!
GO GATORS!!!

AlphaFrog 09-22-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1325751)
we're playing Kentucky tomorrow and I just got a memo saying we were expected to wear orange sundresses (b/c Kentucky's colors are blue and white) and look recruitment ready!

I think if our Rush Chair sent us a memo telling us to wear a purple or gold sundress (or any sundress for that matter) we would have sent her a memo back that she was f*ing crazy. Anything nicer then letters and jeans would stick out like a sore thumb at WIU.

Elephant Walk 09-22-2006 02:26 PM

Honestly, Arkansas isn't good at dressing up, but at least the top-tier greeks do to a degree

TSteven 09-22-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1325757)
Can't wait for the game tomorrow! Football season has to be the best time of the year!!!
GO GATORS!!!

If at all possible, could y'all try to keep the score under fifty. But if y'all can't help yourselves, then at least wait until the forth quarter.

Go Cats!

blackngoldengrl 09-22-2006 02:35 PM

If we had enough school spirit at my college, and it were warmer, it would have been fun to dress up once or twice. But everyone seemed to wear a school shirt/sweatshirt at our games. When I went to my boyfriend's games at Pitt, it was the same thing-but more spirit of course!

ufdale 09-22-2006 02:43 PM

lol well at UF not EVERYONE dresses up for football games. I think we dress up more for tailgating (especially if we love the frat!). I would say that a polo shirt is the most casual I've gone though.

SoCalGirl 09-22-2006 03:33 PM

I don't know if I shared this story before...an alumna from Louisiana Tech told it to me. She was a new pledge at the time and it was her first football game with the chapter. They also team up with a fraternity for their dates to the game. Well, girls were all dressed up in their skirts and dresses and were taking care of the finishing touches when her date walked in with a flask in one hand and tape in the other. She asked what it was for and he told her it was for her THIGH. All the girls were strapped!!! :D I about died from laughter.

tunatartare 09-22-2006 03:39 PM

LMAO because my sisters and friends have definitely done that for formals.

TSteven 09-22-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1325807)
I don't know if I shared this story before...an alumna from Louisiana Tech told it to me. She was a new pledge at the time and it was her first football game with the chapter. They also team up with a fraternity for their dates to the game. Well, girls were all dressed up in their skirts and dresses and were taking care of the finishing touches when her date walked in with a flask in one hand and tape in the other. She asked what it was for and he told her it was for her THIGH. All the girls were strapped!!! :D I about died from laughter.

Must have been fun doing shots!

BamaDad DZ 09-22-2006 04:29 PM

I believe my daughter said something about flasks and uhhhhhh the upper torso area of the sun dress. I didn't even want to think about it....

Hegemon 09-22-2006 05:20 PM

At my first college football game, the pledge brother of my bf at the time put some whiskey in a ziploc bag and "stored" it in his crotch area. I am not quite sure how he kept it in place, but he had it again in the stadium so I know it was safely smuggled in. The students usually got searched (the guys patted down, the girls purses checked), but those with tickets outside of the student section usually do not. At my first game in the non-student section I was surprised to see how many "grown ups" had their own flasks! :D

alum 09-22-2006 05:30 PM

Oh my goodness! This is definitely going on the list of questions for the next lengthy phone call to the college freshman.....

UCFgirl 11-20-2006 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1317083)

UCF is becoming more popular among kids who don't get into UF.

I take offense to this, as not only did I not apply to UF, I do not, and never want, to go there.

Also, even though I graduated a few years ago, not a single person in my 440 person class attended UF.

UCF is becoming more popular because we are a GREAT school with a lot to offer, not because we couldnt get into UF.

Please do not make assumptions about a school being a safety school when it is not for many of us...

RedRover 11-21-2006 12:17 AM

Out of curiosity, is it difficult for a guy from the North to get a bid from a fraternity at a Southern college or univerisity. Or does it depend on the fraternity (a couple Greek letter organizations for men are known to be "Southern fraternities").

Are family ties and recommendations as important for fraternity men as it seems to be for sorority women?

Just wonderin'

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl 11-21-2006 01:52 PM

I wouldn't have gone through Recruitment at Alabama (I would NEVER go to Auburn...the horror) because usually to get into the "top" (depending on how you're judging them) sororities on campus you have to have some good connections. I don't have them. My only advantage would be my hometown, because we are supposed to be a bright young bunch of rich, well connected, successful kids (I got two out of three). I have several Kappa Deltas in my family (one Phi Mu, and now an AOPi, but that's recent), but would I have gotten into KD at Alabama? You better believe I wouldn't. The northern girls who get into sororities like that (Tri Delt, KD, Kappa Kappa Gamma, for instance) have connections, I guarantee you.

But if you are looking for just a good fit, there are newer and less picky sororities on campus at SEC schools which are just as good. I'm glad I didn't have to do Recruitment at a big school like that. We have five sororites, with under 50 girls per party at any time during the week. It's a whole different world.

EGAOPi 11-21-2006 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UCFgirl (Post 1360590)
I take offense to this, as not only did I not apply to UF, I do not, and never want, to go there.

Also, even though I graduated a few years ago, not a single person in my 440 person class attended UF.

UCF is becoming more popular because we are a GREAT school with a lot to offer, not because we couldnt get into UF.

Please do not make assumptions about a school being a safety school when it is not for many of us...

Thank you for posting this--I completely agree!
I am a PROUD student at USF...like you, I did not apply to UF (or even consider going there). I have been to UF/Gainesville and didn't get a good vibe. I like FSU but I decided to stick close to home for now since I eventually want to move to NYC.
USF was the only school I applied to because when I came to visit, it immediately felt like home. I love it and couldn't possibly be happier.
I know plenty of people that went to UF and hated it and actually transferred here (to USF) and to UCF.
UF, FSU, USF and UCF (and even some other FL schools) are all good in their own ways and all have something to offer--something DIFFERENT for each individual.
To say that people only go to other FL schools is because they were rejected from UF is SHEER IGNORANCE.

BamaDad DZ 11-22-2006 09:23 AM

I am a USF alum. Go Bulls!!!!!!!!

I loved USF, but my youngest daughter prefers FSU or UF. Oh well. My oldest, of course, goes to the one and only University of Alabama (for those of you who remember me and my posts about Bama recruitment).

I agree there is something to be said for Northerners trying to break into better Southern soroities at SEC-type schools. My daughter is from Northern Virginia, but she got into DZ, which has a very fine reputation at Bama. And all the way through recruitment she always had twice as many invites as she could accept for each particular day. I believe there is a lot of truth to the idea that Notherners may have it tough - in general - getting into a name sorority at an SEC school.

Recruitment at Bama is insane. My daughter's stories were unbelievable. Did you know that 1,024 were offered bids out of almost 1,400 young ladies who initiated the recruitment process at Bama? So many did not get theiir desired houses, but I'll bet most ended up very, very happy with their ultimate sorority home. All sororities are pretty much awesome as I remember.

A very proud DZ Dad.....BamaDad DZ

Ocalagirl 11-27-2006 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UCFgirl (Post 1360590)
I take offense to this, as not only did I not apply to UF, I do not, and never want, to go there.

Also, even though I graduated a few years ago, not a single person in my 440 person class attended UF.

UCF is becoming more popular because we are a GREAT school with a lot to offer, not because we couldnt get into UF.

Please do not make assumptions about a school being a safety school when it is not for many of us...

I very much have to agree with you on this one. Although UCF is not the place for me, it has a lot of wonderful things to offer and everyone that I have met loves it down here and is going to stay. Set aside the still wonderful Greek system, and you have a thriving campus with many activities and clubs to get involved in plus the benefits of living in a pretty big city. For the girls its great cause we have two of the biggest malls in Florida (in my opinion) with everything to offer. My half-sister only applied here and just recently graduated and couldn't believed that I was leaving. She loved it here and couldn't imagine going anywhere else. I also agree with one of the above posts...every university/college in the state of Florida has something to offer to someone. Every school has something special to offer and you just have to find the one that fits you. Actually while I am transferring to UF, I think it is sad that the state is trying to make UF the TOP UNIVERSITY when every one is great. Every university I believe should have the same playing field as the others.
<<Getting off my soap box..lol>>>

ufdale 11-28-2006 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocalagirl (Post 1363112)
I think it is sad that the state is trying to make UF the TOP UNIVERSITY when every one is great. Every university I believe should have the same playing field as the others.
<<Getting off my soap box..lol>>>

haha maybe the state could send a little money to its univeristies if Florida wants to get better universities. Just a thought. It's no suprise that California has such great universities, they spend so much more on students.

Ocalagirl 11-28-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1363142)
haha maybe the state could send a little money to its univeristies if Florida wants to get better universities. Just a thought. It's no suprise that California has such great universities, they spend so much more on students.

Amen!!!!!! although Florida public universities do have a low cost for in-state students, though every time I go to pay tuition I feel like I'm being robbed!! lol

IvySpice 11-29-2006 11:51 AM

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It's no suprise that California has such great universities, they spend so much more on students.
It must also be said that California does not try to put all its universities on the same playing field. They have an explicit tier system, treating flagship, elite and less selective universities quite differently.

RU OX Alum 11-29-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaDad (Post 1305534)
This is something I may know a little about. My daughter rushed Alabama as an incoming freshman non-legacy from Northern Virginia (even the folks in Richmond think we are a separate entity). Quite a few of our Northern neighbors living in the surrounding Washington, DC area.

That is quite a generalization. About Richmonders, I mean.

alum 11-29-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1363861)
That is quite a generalization. About Richmonders, I mean.

Not necessarily. I agree with BamaDad. Northern VA is not the South.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...501395_pf.html

Jill1228 11-30-2006 02:03 PM

I SO agree with BamaDad. I grew up in Southern VA but spent quite a bit of my adult life in Northern VA and they are definitely 2 different places.

I gotta admit I really miss Northern VA

cavaliercutie10 12-21-2006 03:26 AM

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Interesting...We know lots of Virginians who didn't get into UVa &/or William and Mary...

I can't imagine that Chapel Hill/Berkeley/Ann Arbor being much different than UVa and W&M....These are why these schools are in top rankings of the country. Based on the way my neighbors speak, I think they would gladly downgrade the national ranking of our flagship public schools if it would mean more instate kids would be admitted.
Noooo! I'm an out-of-stater at UVA and I love it more than life itself and if anybody took it away from me I'd cry! :p UVA is a much more respected school than any of my in-state public options, and public or not, it was my top choice university for all of the amazing things it offers its students academically and socially. No fair that only Virginians should get to enjoy the most wonderful university in America! :D

Tons of UVA's students are from NoVa and while UVA itself has a very well developed Southern flavor that I ADORE (grits and biscuits w/ gravy in the dining hall? Sweet tea on tap? Dresses and ties to the football games?), I would have to say that overall it's not as "Southern" a University as it could be thanks to the large of influx of cultured city kids from D.C. suburbs. Nothern VA definitely isn't the South--where I'm from they'd laugh you out of the room if you tried to suggest that it was. Well, no they wouldn't--they're much too polite! ;)

AggieADPi10 12-22-2006 01:03 AM

I really think that being from out of state actually helps girls going through rush. I am from Chicago and when I came to Texas A&M for Fall Recruitment, I still had a thick Chicago accent. Since the majority of other girls going through Rush were from Texas, it made it easier for me to stand out and be remembered; thus, I had a very successfull Recruitment Week.

kappa_babe 12-22-2006 01:41 PM

Rush at an SEC school is very tough we have 8 sororties at my school 2000 girls entered through the recruitment process but only about 580 of us got bids to houses. There were some girls from Chicago and New York but they plegeded KD I think but there moms were from Arkansas and were in sororites so that may gave them an edge during the recruitment process

33girl 12-22-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kappa_babe (Post 1374186)
Rush at an SEC school is very tough we have 8 sororties at my school 2000 girls entered through the recruitment process but only about 580 of us got bids to houses.

I believe what you mean to say is 2000 may have signed up but some were found to be ineligible due to grades or dropped out of their own free will before going the whole way through rush. Any school that only places a fourth of its rushees who COMPLETE rush is in serious violation of Panhellenic policies regarding quota.

I know it sounds more "elite" to say it your way, but it really isn't the whole truth.

kappa_babe 12-22-2006 02:42 PM

Let me clarify my last post
2000 girls entered through the recruitment process they dropped out for various reasons grades, cut by the house they wanted. By the end of the week only 580 of us recieved bids.

BadCat25 12-22-2006 07:32 PM

So Many Cuts
 
There is something wrong when so many PNM's do not get bids. This is a classic case where another sorority should be brought in. That this has not been done is the fault of both PanHell and the Greek Life people. I just can't imagine them not doing something about this. This is just wrong.

MSKKG 12-22-2006 07:58 PM

Grades are understandable. However, if the PNMs drop out because they were cut from the GLOs they wanted, that is not the fault of Panhellenic or Greek Life (maybe indirectly if they haven't stressed Greek Life in general). You cannot make someone pledge a GLO just to make your numbers look good.

I wish all PNMs would go through recruitment with an open mind and try to find a reason to like each group instead of focusing on what they don't like about each group. Yes, there are times when certain groups are not a good fit with a PNM and life would be miserable on both fronts if the PNM joined just for the sake of being in a GLO. How many times though have we heard PNMs say they got their 2nd or 3rd choice and can't imagine being in any other GLO?

BamaBelle1987 12-22-2006 08:35 PM

Many Girls from Out-Of-State Getting Bids
 
I go to a Southern school (bet you can't guess which one...haha) and I know some girls from out-of-state and out-of-the-South who were extended bids to join sororities. It is not common, though. Most girls who are from outside the South have to have either really outgoing personalities that automatically click with a certain sorority or has to have connections. Unfortunately, southern schools have a pretty difficult rush process and many times they are based on who knows who. The sorority I am in tries to give everyone a fair chance and we have some great girls who didn't have "inside connections" (so to say), but they are not in the majority.

kappa_babe 12-23-2006 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BadCat25 (Post 1374309)
There is something wrong when so many PNM's do not get bids. This is a classic case where another sorority should be brought in. That this has not been done is the fault of both PanHell and the Greek Life people. I just can't imagine them not doing something about this. This is just wrong.

We are actually in the process of recruting new sororties for our campus we got AOII this year and in the process of three years five new sororities are coming on campus but no details of which ones yet

Unregistered- 12-23-2006 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kappa_babe (Post 1374372)
We are actually in the process of recruting new sororties for our campus we got AOII this year and in the process of three years five new sororities are coming on campus but no details of which ones yet

Three years and five new sororities? I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe.

carnation 12-23-2006 10:26 AM

I'm an Arkansas alum and I find that hard to believe too. I doubt that UA could find 5 new sororities who would come. There are at least 5 nationals that have folded there--good, strong ones--and you can bet if they folded, most of the rest are saying, 'No way." I don't even think those 5 have any desire to come back.

I also doubt that 2000 girls signed up for recruitment.

irishpipes 12-23-2006 10:58 AM

I have the recruitment stats for Arkansas for the past 8 years right in front of me. 2,000 is not even in the right ballpark. The number of women registered varies but every year it hovers around 475-500. It has been steadily increasing, however. The number who withdrew is around 75 each year. The number released is usually around 15-20.

Also, I can tell you that there is no way there are 5 new sororities coming. There has been speculation of one additional sorority, depending on AOII's results.


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