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blueangel 07-31-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey
Let's review.

I show you that you made a mistake.
I post facts and statistics to prove it.
You attack me by calling me a know it all and a little child.
I say even if I became like you by gaining an additional 50 years I still would know how to read.
You attack me further by saying I am immature and cry that you're being attacked?

Blueangel, you are so mature - keep insulting me, denying facts and statistics, and being a hypocrite who says I am "Soldiering away" while she keeps replying to me.

Please repost and rehash some form of a previous post now. Please. I need it. We all do.

-Rudey

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story! Nice try, Rudy! ;)

Rudey 07-31-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story! Nice try, Rudy! ;)

The sky is made of marshmellows and the ground of peanut butter.

Thank you for posting something that makes no sense. Again, go look at the facts and statistics instead of constantly making remarks about me.

-Rudey

Drolefille 07-31-2006 02:07 PM

*DING*

Fighters return to your corners!

/And stay there!

blueangel 07-31-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey
The sky is made of marshmellows and the ground of peanut butter.

Thank you for posting something that makes no sense. Again, go look at the facts and statistics instead of constantly making remarks about me.

-Rudey

http://www.corybennett.org/us/images...__DSCN8844.jpg

Rudey 07-31-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey
Let's review.

I show you that you made a mistake.
I post facts and statistics to prove it.
You attack me by calling me a know it all and a little child.
I say even if I became like you by gaining an additional 50 years I still would know how to read.
You attack me further by saying I am immature and cry that you're being attacked?

Blueangel, you are so mature - keep insulting me, denying facts and statistics, and being a hypocrite who says I am "Soldiering away" while she keeps replying to me.

Please repost and rehash some form of a previous post now. Please. I need it. We all do.

-Rudey

Read it again. Keep posting old lady. You are about as mature as you are an expert reader.

-Rudey

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Originally Posted by blueangel


blueangel 07-31-2006 03:04 PM

Awww... c'mon Rudy... Drolefile's post was really funny! THought this pic was appropriate. Can't you even laugh? Do you really take yourself that seriously?

Drolefille 07-31-2006 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel
Awww... c'mon Rudy... Drolefile's post was really funny! THought this pic was appropriate. Can't you even laugh? Do you really take yourself that seriously?

He's got me on ignore. :p

Rudey 07-31-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel
Awww... c'mon Rudy... Drolefile's post was really funny! THought this pic was appropriate. Can't you even laugh? Do you really take yourself that seriously?

She qualified for the ignore list.

-Rudey

tunatartare 07-31-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising
What kinds of things did you hear about Toshiba's? I'm currently in the laptop market, and so far it was my top choice....I'm also looking at Dell and Acers, but I know nothing about Acer as far as laptops go.

We studied Acer in a marketing class at college. Apparently they're supposed to be pretty good quality, they just did a shitty job of marketing, which is why so few people know about them. I don't know anyone who has an Acer that I can ask about it.

RU OX Alum 07-31-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising
What kinds of things did you hear about Toshiba's? I'm currently in the laptop market, and so far it was my top choice....I'm also looking at Dell and Acers, but I know nothing about Acer as far as laptops go.


I bought a tosiba laptop a year ago plus some change and it has spent a good 6 months in the repair shop.

Rudey 07-31-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wine&SilverBlue
As for macs (or anything else) - if I'm buying something to use for law school and the school specifically says they DO NOT recommend that type of product (that it will not be compatible with certain software and i'll be on my own for tech support) I personally would rather choose something they recommend.

They are referring to Macs that are only capable of running OS X. They changed that this year. Given that, you can just put a sticker over the Apple logo and pretend it's a Dell and nobody can tell the difference if you really wanted to.

-Rudey

Drolefille 07-31-2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey
They are referring to Macs that are only capable of running OS X. They changed that this year. Given that, you can just put a sticker over the Apple logo and pretend it's a Dell and nobody can tell the difference if you really wanted to.

-Rudey

To be fair, running Windows on a Mac is not some easy no big deal set up. (unless something's changed) Last I checked it was quite the to do. I don't know if Mac has simplified this process though.

I like my right clicks and such, but to me the fact that I can install any piece of software and have it work immediately is the best thing. Windows only sucks if the user sucks. Yeah, it's got bugs but it's a rare person who can crash Windows XP (I work IT) and it's user error it catches a virus.

texgal 07-31-2006 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille
To be fair, running Windows on a Mac is not some easy no big deal set up. (unless something's changed)

Something has changed. Running Windows on a Mac is no longer an issue.

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According to tests carried out by CNET product reviewers, a MacBook Pro and iMac running Intel's Core Duo processor and Windows XP delivers equal performance to similarly configured PCs designed to run Windows.
From Macs do Windows with no streaks, tests show. There are also many reviews saying that the set-up is quite simple. As long as you have a Mac running on Intel and Boot Camp (which I believe is standard on Intel Macs or can be downloaded) all you have to do is install Windows. Pop in your CD and follow the directions.

Drolefille 08-01-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wine&SilverBlue
At this point as long as my law school tells me they will not do tech support on a mac and that macs have trouble running the exam software, i personally will not be getting a mac.

I also love cute little handbags, but if the law school told me I'd have trouble using a cute little bag to carry my law books, I'd likely opt for a more functional bag FOR LAW SCHOOL that would be better suited for what I intend to use it for. Even if I would usually prefer something else. Sure I could get both, but if I had to choose one I'd go for practicality.

Macs might be better for other purposes - I don't know, I've never had a mac. There might also be ways to sidestep the complications a mac would lead to (special software that may or may not be compatible with exam software, taking your exams in a computer lab, renting a PC for exam week). However, it's up to you and what inconveniences you're willing to deal with to have a mac.

If you're buying the laptop to use for law school, I'd buy one that's going to best fit your law school needs. When you graduate in 3 years you'll probably get a new computer anyway, and then you can switch to whatever you prefer. Law school is going to be tough, why make it any more complicated than you have to?

Are you in law school?

_Opi_ 08-01-2006 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wine&SilverBlue
I'm starting law school in two weeks. I got a PC because I didn't want to go through the extra hassle of having a mac. I don't want to have to do my own tech support, and I want to be able to use my computer for exams.

A friend of mine is starting at the same school, and she's getting a Mac. She doesn't mind doing her own tech support and she plans to rent a computer from the school for finals.

It comes down to whether it's worth whatever extra hassle is involved to have a Mac over a PC. To some people (like my friend) it is. To me, if I'm buying the laptop specifically to use for law school I'm going to pick one that will be the most convenient for that purpose.

Edit: Had the law school not given any guidelines, I'm pretty sure I still would have gotten a PC as I prefer PCs. However, had I gone into graphic design (for which my school recommends a Mac) I would have gone with the Mac, which is better suited for those programs.

I'm getting ready to finish off my first semester with a Mac Ibook. The only issue you will have with a Mac is the exam software. If the school rents labtops to students, then this is really not a big issue. Unless she does not want to keep doing it EVERY semester..then PC might be a better option.

I use the Ibook to type all my notes in class, as well as the outlines. I have no issues with wireless internet while in class, either.

Does she have other concerns on Macs besides the Exam software.


PS: I wish my school had the rental option :-(

Rudey 08-02-2006 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wine&SilverBlue
However, had I gone into graphic design (for which my school recommends a Mac) I would have gone with the Mac, which is better suited for those programs.

And just to inform you on how your school is not up to date, when an Apple computer runs Windows and Adobe Photoshop CS2 on it, it performs faster than an Apple computer running Mac OS X and Adobe Photopshop.

-Rudey

Rudey 08-02-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_
I'm getting ready to finish off my first semester with a Mac Ibook. The only issue you will have with a Mac is the exam software.

Opi. You have an old computer. You keep calling it a Mac. It's the equivalent of bringing out an old PC running on a 286 processor and saying that PCs can't run the exam software.

Apple computers run Windows. Apple produces PCs. Apple also produces its own Mac software (which is much better IMO) that won't be compatible with Windows software like that exam program. But basically Apple produces the same type of computers that Dell does but gives you the option to also run Mac programs.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ This is what I'm talking about. It only came out this year so a lot of people with old Macs can't use Windows programs like your exam software. And morons who work at schools haven't updated their announcements on support for certain computers.

-Rudey

_Opi_ 08-02-2006 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey

Apple computers run Windows. Apple produces PCs. Apple also produces its own Mac software (which is much better IMO) that won't be compatible with Windows software like that exam program. But basically Apple produces the same type of computers that Dell does but gives you the option to also run Mac programs.

I get what you're saying. I know this is good news, and I'm supposed to be jumping up for joy..but I'm evenmore pissed now because I missed the frigging deadline to sign up for the exam software when it could've been done.

blueangel 08-02-2006 12:49 AM

Some warnings to those Mac'ers who are considering using Bootcamp. Remember that Boot Camp is still in Beta. I wouldn't risk it. Here is just a sample of some of the problems:

Users Find Flaw in Boot Camp
Some users report that Apple's software has permanently turned their Macs into PCs.

Matthew Broersma, Techworld.com
Thursday, April 13, 2006 07:00 AM PDT
Some Mac users are reporting problems with Apple's Boot Camp, the software that lets Intel-based Macs run Windows. Ironically, some users say that they have been left stuck with Windows, with their hardware unable to reboot the Mac operating system.

For complete story see:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/125393-1/article.html
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Mac's Boot Camp spawns security worries

Having caught wide attention through the public beta release of its Boot Camp software, which allows users to install and run Windows XP on its current Intel-based computers, the firm has also been placed under the expectation of supporting Microsoft's operating system in addition to its own Mac OS X operating system software.

The end result has become that much more confusing to the end user.

In Apple's most recent security patch, the third one of the year, the company sent out a variety of fixes geared towards ensuring that malicious code couldn't be activated through programs and that other software could handle malformed data without crashing. The fixes, which amounted to a hefty 12 to 28 megabyte download depending on which version of the Mac OS X operating system was being used, provided pre-emptive fixes to problems that had yet to be exploited on a wide scale.

For complete story:
http://www.physorg.com/news67098523.html
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Late-Breakers
Friday, July 21 2006 @ 07:40 AM PDT
Boot Camp Beta 1.0.2
Problems using target disk mode after removing Boot Camp

Some users are reporting an issue where they are unable to use their Intel-based Macs in target disk mode (the Intel-based Mac being the target disk) after removing Boot Camp using the Boot Camp Assistant, located in Applications/Utilities.

For complete story:
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?...60721074045272

Rollergirl2001 08-02-2006 09:05 PM

What about HP computers? I'm looking at that and Dell.

I had a Gateway laptop computer, and it quit on me 3 years later. With the desktop, it lasted for four years. I have a Mac desktop from 1995 and it lasted much longer than both of my Gateway computers, desktop and laptop. I would not recommend Gateway.

The computer that I on right now is from emachines, which I got last summer from Wal-Mart. It is under $600, and it's still going on strong. I've got to replace the mouse though, because it quit on me, just a few days ago. It can only move side to side, but not up and down.

BTW, if you are purchasing a laptop, get a cooling pad.

SigmaChiCard 10-23-2006 10:38 PM

GOT A MACBOOK. i'm so excited about it...this thing is awesome.

AlexMack 10-23-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SigmaChiCard (Post 1344501)
GOT A MACBOOK. i'm so excited about it...this thing is awesome.

Color me green. I've been drooling over macbooks since they came out. I'm seriously considering getting a student loan to buy one for next semester. My g3 pismo died two weeks ago due to an H2O incident.
Everytime my PC crashes I curse at it and wonder why it has to suck so bad and why can't everything I own be an Apple?

texgal 10-24-2006 04:03 PM

For those of you who have the NEWER MacBook/MacBook Pro - is anyone running Windows? How is it? I'm looking into buying one in the next year, so I've been trying to find someone who is actually running Windows and OS X to see what they think - especially if you were a PC user prior. I've had PCs my entire life, but everything I hear about the Macs is great, so I'm thinking about getting one when I graduate.

texgal 10-24-2006 04:09 PM

I just mean for those who have the ability to run Windows (not the Mac version of Windows). I don't know how new it is to be honest, I heard about it sometime over the summer if I remember correctly. Really, I'm just looking for someone who runs MS Windows on a Mac to see how well it works. I've heard it's a little shaky, but only from 2nd hand sources. I'll need to run Windows because of some of the programs that my major requires me to use, so I need to see how Windows is. If it doesn't work well, then the Mac is of no use to me since I need a few certain programs that I know only run on Windows.

Rudey 10-24-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by texgal (Post 1345066)
I just mean for those who have the ability to run Windows (not the Mac version of Windows). I don't know how new it is to be honest, I heard about it sometime over the summer if I remember correctly. Really, I'm just looking for someone who runs MS Windows on a Mac to see how well it works. I've heard it's a little shaky, but only from 2nd hand sources. I'll need to run Windows because of some of the programs that my major requires me to use, so I need to see how Windows is. If it doesn't work well, then the Mac is of no use to me since I need a few certain programs that I know only run on Windows.

What is the mac version of windows? I've run windows on a pc and it works well. Not shaky at all. But I haven't used it in about a month now.

-Rudey

SigmaChiCard 10-31-2006 07:05 PM

Having had my macbook only a week now, I feel I can say this thing is damn near the greatest thing i have ever experienced. something about it...it's hard to pin down. i adapted pretty quick & all the little quirky preferences i used to be able to set on my pc i can do here. i wish picassa worked on this....i like it infinitely more than iPhoto, but it's good enough. i love how macs organize things...i'm huge on organization (despite what my bedroom looks like) and these are incredible. i know there are some programs that simply haven't been developed for macs....but with boot camp, i can't imagine a reason (other than price) to get a pc....

PiKA2001 11-09-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1345153)
What is the mac version of windows? I've run windows on a pc and it works well. Not shaky at all. But I haven't used it in about a month now.

-Rudey

I think she means microsoft works on mac. which is excell, powerpoint, word, access but it opens and works on mac OS. the student teacher edition runs about 150 bucks and it actually works better than the pc version of works.

If you want to run windows on your mac, dont use bootcamp, buy pararrells. its about 60 bucks and you can actually run windows and mac os at the same time. So instead of having to reboot your computer everytime you need to switch(in bootcamp) you just click back and forth. also, the thought of having to split my harddrive in two for bootcamp just makes me nervous.

SigmaChiCard 11-08-2007 11:31 PM

Anyone running leopard yet? I'm planning on getting in on that soon, but haven't made the jump yet. now that I've had my mac over a year I can without a moment's hesitation....I would never use my own money to buy a windows-based computer. Mac seems to work under the motto anything you can do i can do better. Except typically it pushes its own boundaries because windows is too slow to keep up.

I truly wish the business world would catch up to the consumer world, but i know it will likely never happen. i know if i ever get around to owning my own firm, it'd be macs only.

I truly cannot understand the hesitation any longer now that Macs can do virtually everything a PC can do, and I read a report that the best machine for running Vista was a Mac! OF course the legal market is probably the furthest behind (next to the government), so we're still on thinkpads (though at least its le novo!)


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