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dst2004 10-16-2006 08:52 AM

You are absolutely right.

Marie 10-16-2006 11:29 AM

Yeah...no. Love does not conquer all. If it did, then people would be getting divorced as often as they do. In real life, people who are in love either fall out of love or just decide to end it b/c other issues/problems become too great to overcome. Usually it may be things like finances or lack of communication or trust. However depending on your lifestyle, family, background, etc. then race may also cause you insurmountable troubles. I'm not saying that you can't have a successful relationship w/someone of a different race. I'm just saying that we have to be real and admit that for some people it will create an uphill battle for success, which you just might lose.

RU OX Alum 10-16-2006 01:10 PM

true love conquers all......if it didn't, people wouldn't stay married when one of them has to move, etc. People get divorced because it wasn't true love.

dst2004 10-16-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1339917)
true love conquers all......if it didn't, people wouldn't stay married when one of them has to move, etc. People get divorced because it wasn't true love.

You are so right. If people are getting divorced over issures, such as money, lack of trust, or race, is because they wasn't any true love there from the beginning. I learn from my parents. They have been through a lot of ups and down, but they have been married for 35 years. No matter what obstacles they have faced and will face they will always love each other. A lot of people don't know anything about that kind of love, though. They take marriage too lightly.

RU OX Alum 10-16-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dst2004 (Post 1340076)
You are so right. If people are getting divorced over issures, such as money, lack of trust, or race, is because they wasn't any true love there from the beginning. I learn from my parents. They have been through a lot of ups and down, but they have been married for 35 years. No matter what obstacles they have faced and will face they will always love each other. A lot of people don't know anything about that kind of love, though. They take marriage too lightly.

I don't know if I would say they take marriage lightly, but I think people marry usually because "its time" or they don't want to end up alone. In either case they are marrying for the wrong reasons, conformity to societal norms or fear of being alone. Peer presure and fear are both the wrong answer to "why did you get married" the only right answer "we are in love"

_Opi_ 10-16-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1219373)

What we are talking about here is a situation where you meet someone that you are highly attracted to, and feel compatible with but basically won't date because they are a member of a specific race.

Well then, that's messed up. I would seriously question the basis of their conclusion. I would even go so far as to say that they are subconsciously racist. Assuming that they are compatible, why is their only issue skin colour?

AEPhiSierra 10-17-2006 10:24 AM

To me what makes sense is wanting to date inside your own culture/religion. I personally will only date guys who are Irish/Italian and Catholic because when I have children I want my culture and religion to be a big part of their upbringing and I think a man with the same background will best be able to share that with me. The idea of dating/not dating someone because of their "race" seems silly to me because there are so many cultural differences within races. Having grown up in Brooklyn I will always have much more in common with my black West Indian neighbors who go to the same church and are also first generation Americans than I ever will with have with a white person from another part of the country, who is not first generation and not Catholic.

Marie 10-17-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1339917)
true love conquers all......if it didn't, people wouldn't stay married when one of them has to move, etc. People get divorced because it wasn't true love.

I'm sure that there are many many people who will disagree with you. You really have to be careful about placing too much confidence in love or true love or whatever other kind of love you want to call it. It really is fragile and not this indestructable emotion that we tend to assume it is. It (along with the overall relationship) needs to be nurtured and developed. When you assume that it is immune to stress then you can become neglectful of it, your partner, your relationship, or your responsibilities...all of which contribute to the relationship failing.

Still BLUTANG 10-17-2006 02:36 PM

I moonlight as a photographer in a mall shop. Last night i was @ work and this cute young couple comes in. black guy, white girl, and young son maybe 2-3 mos old.

they want just the baby, but i made sure to get some with dad and baby and then mom and baby. I asked them if they wanted a couples shot or family shot for their last pose, and they hesitated. The girl told me they are not TOGETHER but it would be nice to have a family picture to give the child when he's old enough to start asking questions (and if i do say so myself, it was a great portrait).

As they're viewing the shots the chick said to babydaddy "Your mom would like this. we can get her one. Too bad we won't be able to send this anyone on my side."

I was WTF?!?!?! but sad at the same time. I can't imagine my parents not accepting my child or my child's father. I'm not a parent tho, so maybe its just something i won't ever understand.

Anyway, i write all that to say people need to stop trippin on this interracial thing. Especially disowning / not acknowledging the children who are born from these relationships. :(

PrettyBoy 10-18-2006 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dst2004 (Post 1339356)
I understand that and I've been through that, but you have to be confident in yourself enough to ignore all of that stuff. It will bother you at times, but you if you really like a person you can't let what other people do or say effect what you do.

You're right, but I would just rather do without all of the drama. But you're absolutley right.;)

dst2004 10-18-2006 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1340160)
I don't know if I would say they take marriage lightly, but I think people marry usually because "its time" or they don't want to end up alone. In either case they are marrying for the wrong reasons, conformity to societal norms or fear of being alone. Peer presure and fear are both the wrong answer to "why did you get married" the only right answer "we are in love"

I understand what you are saying, but, to me, what you just said is taking marriage lightly. Like you said, some people get married because "it's time" or they don't want to be alone. Those are wrong reasons to get married. They are taking it lightly in my opinion

dst2004 10-18-2006 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1341322)
You're right, but I would just rather do without all of the drama. But you're absolutley right.;)

I feel you. I'd rather not deal with all the drama, but I'm glad that you feel where I'm coming from.

Dionysus 10-18-2006 09:54 AM

I don't care...as long as they aren't walking stereotypes of their race.

RU OX Alum 10-18-2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dst2004 (Post 1341377)
I understand what you are saying, but, to me, what you just said is taking marriage lightly. Like you said, some people get married because "it's time" or they don't want to be alone. Those are wrong reasons to get married. They are taking it lightly in my opinion

oh okay i see what you're saying then, yeah I agree

Glitter650 11-15-2006 06:49 PM

I know this thread is a bit old.. but I had to add my two cents.
It really rubs me the wrong way when people say "oh I don't date -insert race here- guys/girls whatver" , to me that's saying I assume that everyone of this race is going have these characteristics that I don't find appealing, so I don't bothering trying to get to know them, and that's closed minded.

dst2004 11-15-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Glitter650 (Post 1358004)
I know this thread is a bit old.. but I had to add my two cents.
It really rubs me the wrong way when people say "oh I don't date -insert race here- guys/girls whatver" , to me that's saying I assume that everyone of this race is going have these characteristics that I don't find appealing, so I don't bothering trying to get to know them, and that's closed minded.

I feel what you are saying.

Rudey 11-15-2006 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dst2004 (Post 1358061)
I feel what you are saying.

Chuck Norris lives by only one rule: don't date Asian girls.

-Rudey

PrettyBoy 11-16-2006 12:45 AM

The girl that told me about this site, told me she wants to be more than friends the other day. We had been hanging out as friends for a while, but that was it, or so I thought. The whole idea of her wanting more is flattering but, when we would hang out as just friends, man o man did we get snares. She's really nice and very attractive, but I'm just not comfortable with the whole situation. It caught me off guard when she laid her feelings out there like that.:eek: I've never been involved with a white woman before especially one in a white sorority. It would be very difficult to relate to her.

OptiKal_Elusion 11-16-2006 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1358248)
The girl that told me about this site, told me she wants to be more than friends the other day. We had been hanging out as friends for a while, but that was it, or so I thought. The whole idea of her wanting more is flattering but, when we would hang out as just friends, man o man did we get snares. She's really nice and very attractive, but I'm just not comfortable with the whole situation. It caught me off guard when she laid her feelings out there like that.:eek: I've never been involved with a white woman before especially one in a white sorority. It would be very difficult to relate to her.

I'm not sure that I understand exactly what u are trying to say. If u are able to relate to her as a friend, why would it be hard to relate to her as a girlfriend? Her skin may be different from yours but she's still a person. :confused:

starang21 11-16-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OptiKal_Elusion (Post 1358276)
I'm not sure that I understand exactly what u are trying to say. If u are able to relate to her as a friend, why would it be hard to relate to her as a girlfriend? Her skin may be different from yours but she's still a person. :confused:

and there are a completely different set of issues betweeb dating interracially and having diversity among your friends.

OptiKal_Elusion 11-16-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1358325)
and there are a completely different set of issues betweeb dating interracially and having diversity among your friends.

do u know that personally? cause i've never had a problem with any of my interracial relationships.

Marie 11-16-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OptiKal_Elusion (Post 1358539)
do u know that personally? cause i've never had a problem with any of my interracial relationships.

Why do ppl continue to use their own experience as a benchmark for others? It is absolutely wonderful that you have had successful interracial relationships, but how does that speak to someone else's life, family, environment, etc?

AKA_Monet 11-16-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1358248)
The girl that told me about this site, told me she wants to be more than friends the other day. We had been hanging out as friends for a while, but that was it, or so I thought. The whole idea of her wanting more is flattering but, when we would hang out as just friends, man o man did we get snares. She's really nice and very attractive, but I'm just not comfortable with the whole situation. It caught me off guard when she laid her feelings out there like that.:eek: I've never been involved with a white woman before especially one in a white sorority. It would be very difficult to relate to her.

Dude, don't even take about you didn't see this coming... I saw it coming a mile away!! :eek:

Gwirlfriend wants to get down...

And you continue with your "kane twirlin' in the bedroom" ;)

starang21 11-16-2006 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OptiKal_Elusion (Post 1358539)
do u know that personally? cause i've never had a problem with any of my interracial relationships.

yea, i know that personally. i've done it enough times to know the stigma behind it.

OptiKal_Elusion 11-16-2006 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie (Post 1358589)
Why do ppl continue to use their own experience as a benchmark for others? It is absolutely wonderful that you have had successful interracial relationships, but how does that speak to someone else's life, family, environment, etc?

Correction not just mine, but others around me. I don't know where you're from but I'm glad I don't live there if you're all a bunch of bigots.

OptiKal_Elusion 11-16-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1358632)
yea, i know that personally. i've done it enough times to know the stigma behind it.

F**ck a stigma, so in other words, you let other people tell u what to do? Interesting.

DSTCHAOS 11-16-2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OptiKal_Elusion (Post 1358687)
F**ck a stigma, so in other words, you let other people tell u what to do? Interesting.

Is that what his post said?

DSTCHAOS 11-16-2006 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1358632)
yea, i know that personally. i've done it enough times to know the stigma behind it.

Aren't 100% of your relationships interracial? LOL.

You definitely know the stigma. But the stigma doesn't stop you from finding a woman you're compatible with even if she's not Hispanic like you are, right? I wuv u 2.

PrettyBoy 11-16-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OptiKal_Elusion (Post 1358276)
I'm not sure that I understand exactly what u are trying to say. If u are able to relate to her as a friend, why would it be hard to relate to her as a girlfriend? Her skin may be different from yours but she's still a person. :confused:

No, I was talking about our organizations, not us. I think the biggest issue would come from outside. The snares we get I would have to get used to. But right now I would like to remain friends. But you're absolutlely right she is a human being, so I wasn't saying I can't relate to her, it's just when she talks about her sorority I don't know what she's talking about, or when I talk about my fraternity she looks at me like :confused: that's all.

PrettyBoy 11-16-2006 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1358593)
Dude, don't even take about you didn't see this coming... I saw it coming a mile away!! :eek:

Gwirlfriend wants to get down...

And you continue with your "kane twirlin' in the bedroom" ;)

I didn't see it coming because we had been friends for 8 months and like I said in the "Can men and women be friends" thread that I have a hard time having female friends because they always want something more. I thought in this case it would be different. I guess not. LOL at the kane in the bedroom. You're so bad.

teena 11-17-2006 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1358074)
Chuck Norris lives by only one rule: don't date Asian girls.

-Rudey

Crack kills

teena 11-17-2006 12:19 AM

[QUOTE=PrettyBoy;1358738] I have a hard time having female friends because they always want something more. [QUOTE]
Interesting

starang21 11-17-2006 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OptiKal_Elusion (Post 1358687)
F**ck a stigma, so in other words, you let other people tell u what to do? Interesting.

is that what you got from my statement?

uhhhhh

:wassat:

starang21 11-17-2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1358706)
Aren't 100% of your relationships interracial? LOL.

You definitely know the stigma. But the stigma doesn't stop you from finding a woman you're compatible with even if she's not Hispanic like you are, right? I wuv u 2.

naw, about 90 percent

LOL

PrettyBoy 11-17-2006 03:52 AM

[quote=teena;1358758][quote=PrettyBoy;1358738] I have a hard time having female friends because they always want something more.
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Interesting
Seriously. I think it must be my personality.

AKA_Monet 11-17-2006 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by teena (Post 1358758)
I have a hard time having female friends because they always want something more.

Interesting

Naw, it's cuz he's twirlin' kanes in his bed...

;)

AKA_Monet 11-17-2006 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1358738)
I didn't see it coming because we had been friends for 8 months and like I said in the "Can men and women be friends" thread that I have a hard time having female friends because they always want something more. I thought in this case it would be different. I guess not. LOL at the kane in the bedroom. You're so bad.

Dude, like you've been "friends" for 8 months... :mad: :confused:





Okey, lemme break it down fo ya. Some women, mostly young ones, (I know, been there done that), try to be friends with the guy they want to sport fcuk... That's why they wait so long... Homegirl was being civil and dignified and trying the respect herself. That's why she says she has feeling for you, now...

Like the comedian said: It's not your beauty, it's your bootay...

Some older women do it for pure adrenaline sport... And to do it right, it won't be spectator, less folks like it like dat...

How do I know?

Let's just say I'm an old married woman... And I have no reason to be bored... :rolleyes:

PrettyBoy 11-17-2006 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1358815)
Dude, like you've been "friends" for 8 months... :mad: :confused:





Okey, lemme break it down fo ya. Some women, mostly young ones, (I know, been there done that), try to be friends with the guy they want to sport fcuk... That's why they wait so long... Homegirl was being civil and dignified and trying the respect herself. That's why she says she has feeling for you, now...

Like the comedian said: It's not your beauty, it's your bootay...

Some older women do it for pure adrenaline sport... And to do it right, it won't be spectator, less folks like it like dat...

How do I know?

Let's just say I'm an old married woman... And I have no reason to be bored... :rolleyes:

AKA_Monet what are you doing up??? LOL. Oh so that's what they're up to huh? LOL. Never would have caught it. Our friendship seemed so innocent. We really were friends for 8 months, and we have so much much fun together as friends. She never made any advances at me until a few days ago. I never made any at her. There are several reasons we would have issues, and I can name a couple. I remember one time we went to eat and after we were done I had to use the men's room, so she waited for me in the waiting room on the way out. When I came out there were two white guys talking to her, one was trying to get her phone number. As I was walking toward her, I saw her point at me, I guess telling them she was with me. They looked at me like :eek: . Then one of them said "You have a nice looking girl." I said we're just friends. The other incident came at the movies from 3 black women. They mumbled something under their breaths. That's the kind of stuff I don't like dealing with. Here goes that kane thing in the bedroom again. She's a GCer too and is going to wonder about the kane in the bedroom thing. It's totally innocent. You ladies should be ashamed of yourselves. LOL

AKA_Monet 11-17-2006 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1358822)
AKA_Monet what are you doing up??? LOL. Oh so that's what they're up to huh? LOL. Never would have caught it. Our friendship seemed so innocent. We really were friends for 8 months, and we have so much much fun together as friends. She never made any advances at me until a few days ago. I never made any at her. There are several reasons we would have issues, and I can name a couple. I remember one time we went to eat and after we were done I had to use the men's room, so she waited for me in the waiting room on the way out. When I came out there were two white guys talking to her, one was trying to get her phone number. As I was walking toward her, I saw her point at me, I guess telling them she was with me. They looked at me like :eek: . Then one of them said "You have a nice looking girl." I said we're just friends. The other incident came at the movies from 3 black women. They mumbled something under their breaths. That's the kind of stuff I don't like dealing with. Here goes that kane thing in the bedroom again. She's a GCer too and is going to wonder about the kane in the bedroom thing. It's totally innocent. You ladies should be ashamed of yourselves. LOL

So you've got to ask yourself are you skeeriousssssssly interested...

Otherwise, unfortunately, you are going to havta let this girl go. You are gonna havta tell her either slow your roll or it's out...

You said yourself that you ain't ready for something intense... Not saying you don't enjoy sports :rolleyes:, just saying right now, at this time in your life, you ain't ready for something skeeriousssss...

And believe it not, women have "investment strategies" too...

Homegirl put the ball in your court. Are you gonna put your "nutz" on the table? Then what are you gonna say?

Basically, you need to know yourself even more...

And as far as sistagirls losing it. Well, that is gonna happen. It ain't kool, but that is the way it is... Sistagirls will ALWAYS say somethin' 'bout dat dere... Good luck with tryin' to keep a sistah's mouth closed... Good luck with that...

PrettyBoy 11-17-2006 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1358826)
So you've got to ask yourself are you skeeriousssssssly interested...

Otherwise, unfortunately, you are going to havta let this girl go. You are gonna havta tell her either slow your roll or it's out...

You said yourself that you ain't ready for something intense... Not saying you don't enjoy sports :rolleyes:, just saying right now, at this time in your life, you ain't ready for something skeeriousssss...

And believe it not, women have "investment strategies" too...

Homegirl put the ball in your court. Are you gonna put your "nutz" on the table? Then what are you gonna say?

Basically, you need to know yourself even more...

And as far as sistagirls losing it. Well, that is gonna happen. It ain't kool, but that is the way it is... Sistagirls will ALWAYS say somethin' 'bout dat dere... Good luck with tryin' to keep a sistah's mouth closed... Good luck with that...

Well, I can't really say it on GC like this, but I can tell you this, you have me over here laughing so hard:p . LOL. She and I will have to talk in person about the whole thing.


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