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wrigley 11-11-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I think its every man's mightmare to have sex with a woman and then have her accuse him of rape.
Just as it is every woman's nightmare to be raped and not be believed.

hoosier 11-11-2005 03:18 PM

I wish they asked her:

"If this happened Fri. night/Sat. morning, why were you at the football game later Sat. cheering the team? Why didn't you report this until Sun.?"

I'm glad she reported it, although it will probably cost LXA their charter, but I wish she had reported earlier, before taking a shower (assuming she did).

James 11-12-2005 04:21 AM

I didn't know I was sympathetic towards them.

Quote:

Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
Why are you so sympathetic to the perpetrators?

DeltAlum 11-12-2005 03:28 PM

On the road and offline for a week...

Let's not go any farther with or get any closer to the name calling.

hoosier 11-13-2005 03:58 PM

Turning back to the football players who got this thread started, I wonder if any of them ever tried to use Wikipedia as a source, and were given a failing grade?

Stanford Univ. student newspaper says:
"The effectiveness and popularity of Wikipedia have stemmed from the ability of any user to make submissions, corrections and additions — all of which become visible and searchable instantaneously. On its Web site, Wikipedia states that “Wikipedia’s goal is to create a free, democratic, reliable encyclopedia — actually, the largest encyclopedia in history, in terms of both breadth and depth.”

"But many remain skeptical of Wikipedia’s credibility. Although the online encyclopedia is relatively well self-policed, there are occasional inaccuracies which cause some critics to see it as a potential fountain of erroneous data."

Wikipedia’s credibility: not acceptable. How can something that ANY USER can change be relied upon.

NutBrnHair 11-13-2005 04:22 PM

tan-gent (tan junt) - 1 diverging from an original purpose or course : irrelevant; 2 an abrupt change of course : digression (e.g., The speaker went on a tangent.)

starang21 11-13-2005 05:53 PM

what the hell happened in here?

and is the girl ok?

NutBrnHair 11-13-2005 07:20 PM

WRCB-TV
 
Accused UTC Players Suspended from School

Six Chattanooga football players charged with raping a female student have been temporarily suspended by the university and an attorney for one of the players says he might challenge the action.
Attorney Mike Little said today that he was looking at a possible challenge.

Little says his client, DeJuan Payne of Stone Mountain, Georgia, is presumed innocent until proven guilty and currently there are only allegations.

Little says it now appears U-T-C's policy is ``to suspend everybody who's been arrested.''

Coach Rodney Allison previously suspended the players for a curfew violation that happened October 21st, the day of the alleged gang rape in a campus apartment.

Chancellor Roger Brown said yesterday the football players were no longer enrolled at U-T-C, pending a student conduct code hearing.

The six athletes were arrested and released on bonds earlier this week.

SuzieBee 11-16-2005 03:12 AM

I feel really sorry for the girl and I hope appropriate legal action was taken. One should never undermine these kind of charges, but rather investigate it to its fullest

hoosier 01-25-2006 08:57 PM

From the LXA page:


Brothers, remember the postings I did about my home chapter in relation to the young lady whom allegedly attended a party at the chapter before leaving with some football players? Well, on tonight's news, they announced that all charges against the football players charged with sexually assaulting her were dismissed tonight.

Here is a link to the article:

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_78880.asp

starang21 01-25-2006 09:37 PM

dang....

Firehouse 01-25-2006 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Carolina Cutie:
"It shouldn't be "every man's nightmare" if these men are having sober, consensual sex with women. Women are NOT running around all willy-nilly accusing men of raping them for fun. It is clear in this story that the woman was intoxicated way past the point of consent. Why are you so sympathetic to the perpetrators?"

Unfortunately for some guys there are women today who DO run around making false accusations, for a variety of reasons. I've seen it often enough to know it's not rare. All good men join all good women in condeming real rape. But today, any accuser is automatically a "victim" and the accused is automatically guilty in the public mind. Even when the accusation is proven false, no charges are filed against the accuser. I don't want to get in a fight over this; I live in a college town and work on a campus and I see this with regularity.
I agree absolutely that no woman wants to be raped, unless she is psychotic, and in that case she needs to be protected against her own inclinations. But, these days when a boy is accused of rape when it's not rape, he has little if any chance to recover the damage to his name or lost prospects.

Rudey 01-26-2006 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Firehouse
Originally posted by Carolina Cutie:
"It shouldn't be "every man's nightmare" if these men are having sober, consensual sex with women. Women are NOT running around all willy-nilly accusing men of raping them for fun. It is clear in this story that the woman was intoxicated way past the point of consent. Why are you so sympathetic to the perpetrators?"

Unfortunately for some guys there are women today who DO run around making false accusations, for a variety of reasons. I've seen it often enough to know it's not rare. All good men join all good women in condeming real rape. But today, any accuser is automatically a "victim" and the accused is automatically guilty in the public mind. Even when the accusation is proven false, no charges are filed against the accuser. I don't want to get in a fight over this; I live in a college town and work on a campus and I see this with regularity.
I agree absolutely that no woman wants to be raped, unless she is psychotic, and in that case she needs to be protected against her own inclinations. But, these days when a boy is accused of rape when it's not rape, he has little if any chance to recover the damage to his name or lost prospects.

Here, here Firehouse. Well put.

-Rudey

33girl 01-26-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Firehouse
Originally posted by Carolina Cutie:
"It shouldn't be "every man's nightmare" if these men are having sober, consensual sex with women. Women are NOT running around all willy-nilly accusing men of raping them for fun. It is clear in this story that the woman was intoxicated way past the point of consent. Why are you so sympathetic to the perpetrators?"

Unfortunately for some guys there are women today who DO run around making false accusations, for a variety of reasons. I've seen it often enough to know it's not rare. All good men join all good women in condeming real rape. But today, any accuser is automatically a "victim" and the accused is automatically guilty in the public mind. Even when the accusation is proven false, no charges are filed against the accuser. I don't want to get in a fight over this; I live in a college town and work on a campus and I see this with regularity.
I agree absolutely that no woman wants to be raped, unless she is psychotic, and in that case she needs to be protected against her own inclinations. But, these days when a boy is accused of rape when it's not rape, he has little if any chance to recover the damage to his name or lost prospects.

I'm going to quote this too because this post is the bomb diggity.

KSigkid 01-26-2006 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Firehouse
Originally posted by Carolina Cutie:
"It shouldn't be "every man's nightmare" if these men are having sober, consensual sex with women. Women are NOT running around all willy-nilly accusing men of raping them for fun. It is clear in this story that the woman was intoxicated way past the point of consent. Why are you so sympathetic to the perpetrators?"

Unfortunately for some guys there are women today who DO run around making false accusations, for a variety of reasons. I've seen it often enough to know it's not rare. All good men join all good women in condeming real rape. But today, any accuser is automatically a "victim" and the accused is automatically guilty in the public mind. Even when the accusation is proven false, no charges are filed against the accuser. I don't want to get in a fight over this; I live in a college town and work on a campus and I see this with regularity.
I agree absolutely that no woman wants to be raped, unless she is psychotic, and in that case she needs to be protected against her own inclinations. But, these days when a boy is accused of rape when it's not rape, he has little if any chance to recover the damage to his name or lost prospects.

Nicely said - thanks for putting what a bunch of us have been thinking into words.

rhochi2002 01-26-2006 11:56 AM

I absolutely believe that men are occasionally accused faslely of rape. But I have noticed lately that anytime someone famous is accused of rape, some people will automatically claim that they are a target for false accuations.
Unfortunatly rape is a he said/ she said crime... not all victims are saints and not all alledged perps are guilty.

Tom Earp 01-26-2006 05:11 PM

To True, but it needs to be taken by a case per case situation doesnt it?

It is not only well known people but the plain folks as well.

It can and does happen to many people at all levels.

I think the Thread at what happened at UT-Chattannoga is a prime example.

GeekyPenguin 01-26-2006 06:03 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tom Earp
To True, but it needs to be taken by a case per case situation doesnt it?

It is not only well known people but the plain folks as well.

It can and does happen to many people at all levels.

I think the Thread at what happened at UT-Chattannoga is a prime example.
[/QUOTE

That is this thread. :confused:

BobbyTheDon 01-26-2006 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
I'm going to quote this too because this post is the bomb diggity.

Firehouse is the bomb diggity PERIOD. No doubt.

boz130 01-27-2006 07:30 PM

From 1989-2001 I worked p/t for a well-known pizza delivery company (sorry, no commercial). Periodically I'd be asked to deliver 'zas to the local Christian college on the north end of our delivery area.

Most of the deliveries were made to guys in dorms or the graduate apts., but there were frequent orders from the largest dorm on campus: a women's hall that housed 300+.

The majority of the time the ladies wanted me to bring the order to their room because they didn't want to schlep downstairs to the lobby. However, I asked if they'd make the trip anyway.

Why make a coed come downstairs? It's simple: even though the women attending this school were "born again Christians", I didn't think it would be wise for a lone male to be roaming the halls.

Yes, I was old enough to be their dad, but all it would take is for one woman who's pissed off @ her parents/boyfriend/profs/etc. to scream that "R" word after I'd passed her doorway. I didn't feel the possibility, no matter how small, was worth it.

During that entire 12 year period I only went into the sleeping areas one time; this was to deliver an order to a customer who'd ordered frequently, so I felt comfortable in walking to her room (3 doors off the lobby). Most of the other delivery guys thought I was nuts, but I never felt the need to utilize my umbrella liability policy.

In light of what happened @ UT-C & the problems other LCA chapters have had (e.g. Arizona State), I still maintain I'd rather be in a well-lit, public area. That way, in case anything bizarro did happen, I'd have witnesses.

preciousjeni 01-27-2006 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boz130
From 1989-2001 I worked p/t for a well-known pizza delivery company (sorry, no commercial). Periodically I'd be asked to deliver 'zas to the local Christian college on the north end of our delivery area.

Most of the deliveries were made to guys in dorms or the graduate apts., but there were frequent orders from the largest dorm on campus: a women's hall that housed 300+.

The majority of the time the ladies wanted me to bring the order to their room because they didn't want to schlep downstairs to the lobby. However, I asked if they'd make the trip anyway.

Why make a coed come downstairs? It's simple: even though the women attending this school were "born again Christians", I didn't think it would be wise for a lone male to be roaming the halls.

Yes, I was old enough to be their dad, but all it would take is for one woman who's pissed off @ her parents/boyfriend/profs/etc. to scream that "R" word after I'd passed her doorway. I didn't feel the possibility, no matter how small, was worth it.

During that entire 12 year period I only went into the sleeping areas one time; this was to deliver an order to a customer who'd ordered frequently, so I felt comfortable in walking to her room (3 doors off the lobby). Most of the other delivery guys thought I was nuts, but I never felt the need to utilize my umbrella liability policy.

In light of what happened @ UT-C & the problems other LCA chapters have had (e.g. Arizona State), I still maintain I'd rather be in a well-lit, public area. That way, in case anything bizarro did happen, I'd have witnesses.

Very wise!

Tom Earp 01-28-2006 03:38 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
To True, but it needs to be taken by a case per case situation doesnt it?

It is not only well known people but the plain folks as well.

It can and does happen to many people at all levels.

I think the Thread at what happened at UT-Chattannoga is a prime example.
[/QUOTE

That is this thread. :confused:
I am well aware of what this Thread is about , maybe I was just poing out that is what was started and had gotten off track, little train that could!:rolleyes:

As BOZ130 said, if You do not let Yourself get into a certain position, then You wont get into some type of trouble.

So, is there a problem with this Post?


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