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SapphireSphinx9 10-06-2005 07:34 PM

this whole scenario is so wrong

i really hope that all of this is not true and kate figures out what a wack job tom's turned into, before it's too late.

RedRoseSAI 10-06-2005 09:12 PM

Here's a very interesting page on "The Birth of a Scientologist"

http://www.ilsehruby.at/Thetanbirth.html

Among other things, it says that after birth, the baby should be left alone, without any human contact, for about a day. Is that so it can develop into an antisocial moron who will one day promote Scientology to others?

honeychile 10-06-2005 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Yes, only because even that wouldn't convince Cruise to change his mind. He is WAY too set in his beliefs to change them. It would just mean that Katie was going through PDD with an extremely unsupportive man in her life who probably wouldn't allow her to use (or would make her feel extremely bad about using) drugs, therapy, or anything else.

And James, nobody is "asking for it." :rolleyes: While taking supplements may reduce the chance of PPD, it certainly doesn't eliminate it. Furthermore, with Tom Cruise's anti-drug stance, who knows if he'd even be okay with Katie taking them (although maybe he considers them a "vitamin" in which case she's okay -- haha).

As for Tom's declining popularity, I think it dropped slightly after the way he treated Nicole in the wake of their divorce (many women who had previously loved Cruise were sympathetic to her -- her subsequent popularity was partially due to her talent and good movie choices, but also to the fact that many women empathised with her). Cruise's true popularity nosedive came after the Oprah appearance, and continued to sink at every major public incident after that. Cruise's handlers could NOT keep him out of the spotlight and it was usually for something unsympathetic (i.e., the PPD debacle). If Cruise had been smarter, he would have laid low for a while after Oprah and his popularity would probably have recovered. Instead, he went around doing a number of stupid things, appearing EVERYwhere in public with Katie insisting how rad their relationship was, and then the paparazzi started researching his involvement in Scientology and came up with lots of weird stories, which was the final nail in the coffin. It doesn't help that, I believe, Cruise's publicist is his sister (?) who is also a Scientologist, so clearly she was not going to be the one to reign him in.

Points well taken. Although I will add - and I have witnesses - that I thought he was as gay as a picnic basket as early as Risky Business!!

Frankly, I think the whole pregnancy thing is/was planned by the Scientologists to try to bolster Tom's image. Too bad it's just making him looking sillier than ever.

ASUADPi 10-06-2005 10:04 PM

can you imagine how much therapy this kid is going to need

Munchkin03 10-06-2005 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Just so you know, the Immaculate Conception is not the Virgin Birth. It means that Mary was conceived without original sin.

Quite familiar with that concept, thanks.

Peaches-n-Cream 10-06-2005 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Munchkin03
Tom Cruise is sterile. Back when he and Mimi Rogers were married, I remember articles on how ONE of them was sterile, but they wouldn't say which one. She went on to have several children with her subsequent husband.

What happened to Miss Holmes's vow to stay chaste until she married?

IT'S AN IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, PEEPS!

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Quite familiar with that concept, thanks.
It didn't seem like it according to your first post, but you're welcome.

tinydancer 10-07-2005 09:00 AM

I still think those two deserve each other!:rolleyes:

dzrose93 10-07-2005 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by AnonAlumna
Not all doctors suggest DHA. I'm on my second pregnancy, and as many doctors as I've seen, NONE of them have recommended it to me. Quite honestly, I had to google DHA to see what it was...other than something found in breastmilk! The first time around, I was blessed to only have a very slight case of the 'Baby Blues'...of course...there were many other contributing factors.

I don't think I need to remind everyone, but for the naive, EVERY woman is different. What works for one, might not work for the other. I was not given the option of an epidural, my labor went too quickly. Is that my fault? Did I ask for that? Until you push something the size of a watermelon, out a whole the size of an orange, keep your inane comments to yourself. Please, James, you sound as dumb as Cruise does. There is obviously more to PPD than you could possibly comprehend.

To everyone else...sorry for my rudeness, but I'm about five weeks away from delivery, and my hormones are nuts! OH! I'll just go take some DHA...or diet and exercise...or something! :rolleyes:

I agree with AnonAlumna. My doctor never told me a thing about DHA, and the first time I ever saw anything about it was on a label of formula about 8 months after giving birth.

I'm really thankful that my husband is so open-minded. He was completely supportive of my birth plan (which included an epidural and a couple of other pain relievers), and never questioned a single decision I made during pregnancy, labor, delivery, or post-delivery. :) I feel very sorry for Katie Holmes; somehow I just don't think Tom is going to keep his big fat trap shut for the next nine months.

Tickled Pink 2 10-08-2005 10:00 AM

It'll be interesting to see what they name him/her.

pinkyphimu 10-08-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
It'll be interesting to see what they name him/her.
i heard a suggestion on the radio....therapy...because he/she is going to need a lot of it!

CutiePie2000 10-11-2005 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by AXiD670
But I thought Katie was a virgin and was saving herself for marriage?
Maybe she is still a virgin and impregnated herself via the turkey baster method (hey, it worked for Melissa Etheridge).

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
What do they do, stuff a gag in the mother's mouth?
Maybe they bite down on a wooden stick like the cavewomen of yore did? ;)

BlondeGurl 10-11-2005 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by xo_kathy
ALSO - NO SCREAMING! It's traumatizes the baby...

:rolleyes:

I bet Katie Holmes is going to be traumatized after this relationship. Hopefully and kind nurse will allow her the epidural without telling Tom.

Quote:

Originally posted by RedRoseSAI
Here's a very interesting page on "The Birth of a Scientologist"

http://www.ilsehruby.at/Thetanbirth.html

Among other things, it says that after birth, the baby should be left alone, without any human contact, for about a day. Is that so it can develop into an antisocial moron who will one day promote Scientology to others?

That is sad. I hope that they do not follow that rule because (wile I have never had children) that certainly is not what I have heard is good for a child in my psychology classes. Isn't the time when babies and mothers bond most/best directly after birth?

bluecattitude19 10-11-2005 09:13 AM

This whole thing is just creepy....:eek:

I expect a ship to come and beam him up some time soon...

AchtungBaby80 10-11-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by bluecattitude19
I expect a ship to come and beam him up some time soon...
You're not the only one! :p

jess_pom 10-13-2005 03:35 PM

Just saw this on eonline.com:

ON CRUISE CONTROL: People reporting that Tom Cruise fiancée Katie Holmes is dropping out of the drama Shame On You, starring Dennis Quaid, to focus on her pregnancy.

Katie, why oh why are you giving up acting roles? You need them. And Dennis Quaid is so cute. Cuter than Tom? Probably. Could it do more for your career than a baby with Tom? Probably.

BetteDavisEyes 10-13-2005 03:49 PM

I laughed my ass of yesterday when I saw a girl wearing a "SAVE KATIE" T-shirt.

Honeykiss1974 10-13-2005 04:19 PM

ROTFL
 
There are some comical posts in this thread. :p


Quote:

Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
It'll be interesting to see what they name him/her.
Maybe Hubbard Cruise - first name in honor of the man whose ideas brought them together. :rolleyes: I won't be surprised.

Lindz928 10-13-2005 04:46 PM

Heard something about a website or something that is taking bets on what the name will be. What are the 500-1 odds? GOOSE!!!

UKDaisy 10-13-2005 11:12 PM

not sure if this is posted or not.

Kate is Shame-less
The actress, who recently revealed she is carrying fiance Tom Cruise's baby, has pulled out of the Dennis Quaid drama Shame On You in order to focus on her pregnancy, People magazine reports.


The film, a biopic on country and western swing legend Spade Cooley, had been scheduled to begin shooting in New Orleans within the next month. But the production was pushed back to early 2006 due to Hurricane Katrina. Holmes was set to star as Cooley's wife, Ella Mae.


A publicist for Quaid, who is writing, directing and starring in the film, declined to comment on Holmes' reported exit.


Holmes recently dismissed her longtime rep, Leslie Sloane Zelnick. Per initial reports, Holmes made the move in favor of the flackery skills proffered by Cruise's publicist and sister (publisister?) Lee Ann DeVette. But DeVette said Thursday that Holmes is currently sans spokesperson and therefore no one could confirm the People story.


In any case, DeVette and whomever Holmes decides to hire will have their work cut out for her in the denial and no comment department.


In what has become their signature whirlwind fashion, Holmes, 26, and Cruise, 43, announced they were expecting their first child together earlier this month, just four months after announcing their engagement. The couple has not yet set a wedding date.


With Cruise and Holmes upping their public profile in recent days, tabloids have been all abuzz over the former Dawson's Creek star's very visible bump, prompting speculation into exactly how long she has been in the family way. (She's not saying.)


In terms of just how Holmes got to be in the family way, her aunt has denied rumors that the actress conceived via IVF.


"I can assure you they did it the old fashioned way," Carol Zydorczyk said in a recent magazine interview. (We're not even going to ask how she knows for sure.)


Meanwhile, back home in Ohio, Holmes' father, Martin, is reportedly extremely displeased that his daughter is pregnant without the benefit of first swapping vows, according to Life & Style magazine.


The magazine reports that the strict Catholic scolded the actress upon learning of her pregnancy, before telling Cruise, "You're no good!" The grandfather-to-be also reportedly demanded that the pair wed soon.


In other reports, when it comes time for the actress to give birth in several months, it has been suggested that Holmes will attempt a silent labor in keeping with Scientology tradition.


The practice encourages mothers to be to forgo painkillers and to refrain from screaming or even talking as they bring their children into the world. Scientologists believe that the silence reduces trauma during birth and prevents irrational fears later in life.


Holmes and Cruise have not commented on how they plan to bring their offspring into the world. However, we're thinking Cruise better start practicing his silent couch-jumping routine, just in case.

LeslieAGD 11-30-2005 12:26 PM

Not sure if anyone looks at postsecrets.com, but I thought this was interesting.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/994/593/1600/tom.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/994/593/1600/tom.jpg

AznSAE 11-30-2005 12:48 PM

tom bought katie a sonogram machine so they can monitor the kid on their own. after that, he plans to donate it to some hospital.

mu_agd 11-30-2005 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by AznSAE
tom bought katie a sonogram machine so they can monitor the kid on their own. after that, he plans to donate it to some hospital.

Because apparently he thinks that even though he is not a licensed technician he should be able to operate one.

WCUgirl 11-30-2005 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
Not sure if anyone looks at postsecrets.com, but I thought this was interesting.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/994/593/1600/tom.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/994/593/1600/tom.jpg

The pic isn't showing up and the link isn't working. :(

Lindz928 11-30-2005 01:18 PM

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/994/593/1600/tom.jpg

Try that one.

AznSAE 11-30-2005 01:23 PM

i think you girls are linking us to porn because none of the links work.

Lindz928 11-30-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by AznSAE
i think you girls are linking us to porn because none of the links work.
The one I posted works when I click it. :confused:

WTF? Ok then, just go to www.postsecret.com and scroll down until you find the post card with the picture of Tom and Katie on it.

LeslieAGD 11-30-2005 01:31 PM

I see the picture... :confused:

SOPi_Jawbreaker 11-30-2005 02:18 PM

Re: ROTFL
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
There are some comical posts in this thread. :p




Maybe Hubbard Cruise - first name in honor of the man whose ideas brought them together. :rolleyes: I won't be surprised.


No, I'm pretty sure Hubbard Cruise is the name of their spaceship.

FSUZeta 11-30-2005 03:02 PM

so katie is encouraged to labor in silence, using no pain medication(should she need it), but it is okay to zap the baby with sonar, unsupervised, as often as they want? they are insane!

HBADPi 01-24-2006 06:34 PM

Just came across this and thought I'd share:

http://www.celebworld.org/007katie3.html

texas*princess 01-24-2006 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HBADPi
Just came across this and thought I'd share:

http://www.celebworld.org/007katie3.html

Wouldn't it be crazy if she was just using one of those pregnancy "suits" like they use in the movies/TV?

This site reminded me of the one that shows Britney's bust inflating, and deflating, and inflating, and deflating...

KunjaPrincess 01-24-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by texas*princess
Wouldn't it be crazy if she was just using one of those pregnancy "suits" like they use in the movies/TV?

This site reminded me of the one that shows Britney's bust inflating, and deflating, and inflating, and deflating...

I saw that site already and thought it was interesting. May just be the clothes though. How pregnant I looked with my first could really change depending on what I was wearing and how I was standing.
If she is using the body suit thing I am wondering what is going to happen in a few months though ... I mean noone is pregnant for ever, eventually a baby has to be produced. How are they going to magically produce a baby if she is not really pregnant. Unless they are adopting and already have a adoptive parent in mind. Somehow I don't see them slipping out of the limelight so I dunno

33girl 01-25-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by KunjaPrincess
IIf she is using the body suit thing I am wondering what is going to happen in a few months though ... I mean noone is pregnant for ever, eventually a baby has to be produced. How are they going to magically produce a baby if she is not really pregnant. Unless they are adopting and already have a adoptive parent in mind. Somehow I don't see them slipping out of the limelight so I dunno
Either:

a) Katie will have a very public "miscarriage"

or

b) there's an about-to-be-very-rich pregnant Scientologist holed up in their house somewhere, who will do the "drop and dash."

uksparkle 01-25-2006 01:33 AM

Maybe they are doing it so that the press won't know how far along she is and then when she actually gives birth they won't be expecting it and they can have some sort of privacy.

kddani 01-25-2006 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by uksparkle
Maybe they are doing it so that the press won't know how far along she is and then when she actually gives birth they won't be expecting it and they can have some sort of privacy.
Since when is anything in their relationship ever been private?

I find her stomach to be odd as well. As soon as they announced it, she was showing, but it hasn't seemed to grow since, and it's been months.

When is she due?
What about their wedding?

Lady Pi Phi 01-25-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HBADPi
Just came across this and thought I'd share:

http://www.celebworld.org/007katie3.html

I would like to believe that everything I see on the interweb is true, but how do we know that those pictures actually corresponde to those dates?

Someone probably clipped out pictures of katie and posted them out of sequence with fake dates underneath.

litlbear1072 01-25-2006 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I would like to believe that everything I see on the interweb is true, but how do we know that those pictures actually corresponde to those dates?

Someone probably clipped out pictures of katie and posted them out of sequence with fake dates underneath.


I tend to agree here. I feel like I saw some of those "newer" pictures last fall. I think they are out of sequence but who knows. :rolleyes:

irishpipes 01-25-2006 10:58 AM

A sex scene is mysteriously missing from Katie's newest film...

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/eo/2...815920000.html


Did Tom have it cut? Hmmm....

AlphaFrog 01-25-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by litlbear1072
I tend to agree here. I feel like I saw some of those "newer" pictures last fall. I think they are out of sequence but who knows. :rolleyes:
They can also do amazing things with Photoshop.

JenMarie 01-25-2006 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
They can also do amazing things with Photoshop.
They can. Perhaps some of those photos were taken and edited so that no one would know she was pregnant at the time of publication.

But makes me wonder... what if this is all fake too (going back to the pregnancy suit again.)


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