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darling1 12-17-2005 01:17 AM

yes!!!!
 
if folks took a minute to digest his successes, this thread would be a moot point. the man is awesome.





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Originally posted by starang21
http://www.randalpinkett.com/


his resume is off the chain.

this dude is my new professional idol, lol


darling1 12-17-2005 01:18 AM

THANK YOU!!
 
very well stated!


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Originally posted by Misbehavn23
I think the best candidate won. I don’t understand how people are trying to rationalize hiring both of them that night. Ok let’s play this out by the facts. Randal and Rebecca were the two best out of the competition, we all can agree on that. Even though as task managers Rebecca was 1-2, Randal was 3-0. I’ll still go along with the dead even opinion going into the final round because I know people want to talk about the ankle. Both were assigned their final project, charity fundraisers. Rebecca had to host a comedy event raising money for the Elizabeth Glaser AIDS Foundation. Despite her comedian pulling out, It was a nice event but how much money did Rebecca raise? $0. Did anyone notice that Donald was disappointed (and stated on the show) that Rebecca did not come out or send someone to greet him when she knew in advance he was coming? Randal had to host a celebrity softball tournament to raise money for Autism Speaks. It did rain forcing the event inside. How much money did Randal raise? $11,000.

It was only because Trump called Yahoo out they donated $50,000. EG AIDS Foundation don’t want to hear about broken ankles or how their host was advised not ask the attendees for money even though that was the purpose of the event. In the fundraising world if you didn’t raise the dollars then having the event didn’t make cents. Randal raised money for Autism Speaks despite his obstacles and that is the difference in “writing about businesses and running them”. That is also the reason why Trump only hired 1 Apprentice. Now if you still think both should have been hire that night then you are speaking from emotion, not rational.


kansas13 12-17-2005 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by AXiD670
I really liked Randal throughout this whole process, but I lost all respect for him tonight.
I totally agree with this statement. Not because he didn't chose Rebecca, but the way he reponded to his final team and the questions in the final board room. While I did not see the whole episodeThursday night, I did see the final board room when they were discussing who should be hired.

In my opinion, it seemed to me that when Trump asked Randal a question he did not only promote himself, but he also put down Rebecca. While Rebecca only brought up Randal's name into one of her answers when Mr. Trump flat out asked her about him. I believe that a leader does not put down a person that are they competing with to get ahead...they promote themself, because thats what it is all about, them getting the job on their own merits, not making someone else look bad so they can get the job.

I am not saying that Randal didn't deserve to win, I am just stating why his final board room tatics made me lose respect for him in the end.

Also, it made me soooo upset to see Alisha and Alla in the background shaking their heads when Trump ask RANDAL, not them, if he should hire Rebecca also. I do not care if they did not expect to be seen on camera shaking their heads, they need to keep their opinions to themselves!! It made them look like bitches, in my opinion, and just irked me to no end!!

Rudey 12-17-2005 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by kansas13
I totally agree with this statement. Not because he didn't chose Rebecca, but the way he reponded to his final team and the questions in the final board room. While I did not see the whole episodeThursday night, I did see the final board room when they were discussing who should be hired.

In my opinion, it seemed to me that when Trump asked Randal a question he did not only promote himself, but he also put down Rebecca. While Rebecca only brought up Randal's name into one of her answers when Mr. Trump flat out asked her about him. I believe that a leader does not put down a person that are they competing with to get ahead...they promote themself, because thats what it is all about, them getting the job on their own merits, not making someone else look bad so they can get the job.

I am not saying that Randal didn't deserve to win, I am just stating why his final board room tatics made me lose respect for him in the end.

Also, it made me soooo upset to see Alisha and Alla in the background shaking their heads when Trump ask RANDAL, not them, if he should hire Rebecca also. I do not care if they did not expect to be seen on camera shaking their heads, they need to keep their opinions to themselves!! It made them look like bitches, in my opinion, and just irked me to no end!!

I think you're a bit naive. This is all for entertainment and I think you're getting slightly wrapped up in it. But anyway, when you do start working out of school get ready to learn to culture of competition, back-stabbing, and passive-aggressive behavior.

-Rudey

kansas13 12-17-2005 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
I think you're a bit naive. This is all for entertainment and I think you're getting slightly wrapped up in it. But anyway, when you do start working out of school get ready to learn to culture of competition, back-stabbing, and passive-aggressive behavior.

-Rudey

I am out of school and have been for the past 3 years. Maybe its because I am a teacher that I don't have that competitive, back-stabbing, mentality. I don't have the need for it in my profession.

Rudey 12-17-2005 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by kansas13
I am out of school and have been for the past 3 years. Maybe its because I am a teacher that I don't have that competitive, back-stabbing, mentality. I don't have the need for it in my profession.
I've heard teachers learn it later on in their careers.

Becky didn't win. Why should he share? What is the point of it? Heck why doesn't he just share with all the other contestants? Maybe he can just ask for Don to make every Ny'er a winner.

-Rudey

darling1 12-17-2005 04:22 PM

i hope you got a chance to see the entire show
 
because rebecca wasnt so nice wither..lol

btw, teachers rock!! :D



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Originally posted by kansas13
I am out of school and have been for the past 3 years. Maybe its because I am a teacher that I don't have that competitive, back-stabbing, mentality. I don't have the need for it in my profession.

NutBrnHair 12-17-2005 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Misbehavn23
How much money did Randal raise? $11,000.
Honestly, that's really not that much in fundraising circles -- especially for an event in NYC where celebrities are in attendance.

lilbay77 12-17-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by NutBrnHair
Honestly, that's really not that much in fundraising circles -- especially for an event in NYC where celebrities are in attendance.
Okay, but Rebecca raised ZERO. So compare that to $11,000.

starang21 12-17-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by lilbay77
Okay, but the Rebecca raised ZERO. So compare that to $11,000.
*lightbulb*

NutBrnHair 12-17-2005 05:04 PM

That's fine -- I was for Randal too, but I'm just saying, $11,000 is small change for that type of event.

kansas13 12-18-2005 05:55 PM

Re: i hope you got a chance to see the entire show
 
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Originally posted by darling1
btw, teachers rock!! :D
Thanks!!

KSigkid 12-18-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by kansas13
I am out of school and have been for the past 3 years. Maybe its because I am a teacher that I don't have that competitive, back-stabbing, mentality. I don't have the need for it in my profession.
Depends on where you work - if you think education is free of back-stabbers, you work in quite a unique situation.

MysticCat 12-19-2005 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Misbehavn23
Both were assigned their final project, charity fundraisers. Rebecca had to host a comedy event raising money for the Elizabeth Glaser AIDS Foundation. Despite her comedian pulling out, It was a nice event but how much money did Rebecca raise? $0. Did anyone notice that Donald was disappointed (and stated on the show) that Rebecca did not come out or send someone to greet him when she knew in advance he was coming? Randal had to host a celebrity softball tournament to raise money for Autism Speaks. It did rain forcing the event inside. How much money did Randal raise? $11,000. . . . Randal raised money for Autism Speaks despite his obstacles and that is the difference in 'writing about businesses and running them". That is also the reason why Trump only hired 1 Apprentice. Now if you still think both should have been hire that night then you are speaking from emotion, not rational.
But, and I think it is a significant but, Rebecca did exactly what the host of the event told her they wanted. Could she have tried to talk them out of it? Sure. Could Rebecca have made sure that EG Ped AIDS had more of a "presence" at the event? Definitely. But unless the candidates got instructions we didn't hear (certainly possible, but not likely since at no point did Trump, Carolyn, George, Randal or anyone else say "it was made clear the charity was the client," and Trump asked both candidates "who did you think the client was?"), then I don't think Rebecca was that off base by understanding that her client was Yahoo rather than EG Ped AIDS and her job was to plan an event the way the host wanted the event to go. OutBack certainly seemed to think they were Randal's client.

And if you're going to point fingers at how Rebecca failed to raise money when she planned the charity event, then you can't ignore Randal's failure to have a "Plan B" -- Carolyn certainly couldn't let that go and was obviously astounded at Randal's failure in that regard -- even more so when he said he dismissed chances of rain because it was "only" 30%. And while he clearly thought Randal did a good job raising money, George also clearly though Randal did not do that a great job planning the event. Bottom line -- it was clear that George and Carolyn both thought Randal did a much better job raising money but that Rebecca did a much better job planning the event. Her failure to raise money at least appeared to be directly related to a failure on someone's part to communicate exactly who the client was.

Again, I think overall Randal deserved to win. But I don't think the fact the Rebecca failed to raise money is the reason why. After all, the person who supposedly only writes about business pulled off an event that impressed everyone (even if it didn't raise money). The person who runs businesses instead of writing about them failed to have a rain plan for an outdoor event, something Carolyn was still baffled by right before Randal was hired.

Tickled Pink 2 12-21-2005 12:24 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20051220/en_tv_eo/18010

The Gift of the "Apprenti" By Joal Ryan
Tue Dec 20, 5:58 PM ET



To Donald Trump, the latest finale of The Apprentice was "good television." To NBC, it was as good as it got.


The two-hour Apprentice capper was the struggling network's highest ranked program of the TV week ended Sunday, per Nielsen Media Research. And around NBC these days, highest ranked means 13th place.


As far as The Apprentice was concerned, the showing represented the best of times (a season-high 12.8 million viewers) and the worst of times (a finale-low 12.8 million viewers, off more than 50 percent from the original boardroom blowout back in 2004).


What the season ender lacked in eyeballs, it arguably made up for in buzz. Monday's Larry King Live saw Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld share air time with "the finale controversy."


Said controversy was ignited when Donald Trump hired Rhodes Scholar Randal Pinkett to be his apprentice, and then asked Pinkett if he thought runner-up Rebecca Jarvis should be hired as well.


"It's not The Apprenti, it's The Apprentice," Pinkett explained in declining to share his title with Jarvis.


On Larry King, Trump said questions as to whether his unusual proposal was somehow about race--Pinkett is black, Jarvis is white--were "totally inappropriate." The mogul said he merely liked both candidates.


"You have to say, Larry," Trump told the CNN host, "it was good television." ...

MysticCat 12-21-2005 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
Monday's Larry King Live saw Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld share air time with "the finale controversy."
I saw it. Larry King just wouldn't let the "controversy" go. Randal defended himself and his decision very well and Trump stood up for him, but Larry just hung on.

FWIW, I'm thinking Rebecca may be better off in the long run. Apparently, job offers are pouring in for her. She wouldn't say from whom, but Trump said he had heard that those interested in her included Microsoft and Yahoo.


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