Re: busy. busy. busy
 

Actually, I'm not sure I'd put BYU in that category. BYU requires that a student be observant, but not what they are observant of. There are believing Jews and Buddhists who have attended the school and graduated. Sort of get suprised looks from the students, but are pretty much off limits to prosethetize to. The Law school is even more secular in many ways...


Randy

Even if this were the case, so what? Why are women encouraged to look "feminine" (what with the skirts, pantyhose, and longer hair)?

To Know Erik is to Love Him!:)

He is not as crotchity as He pretends, He just likes to get juices flowing and a Dialog going.

He does know about Fraternitys and Sororitys as He has helped both at the many schools and positions He has been to and worked with.

I cannot remember which two Sororitys that He helped get on a particular campus as felt there was a need to expand Womens Groups there.

Oh yes he keeps reminding me of my typoing skills via emails!:D

He does have a lot of knowledge to impart, but does it in his quirky way!:D

If one reads between his funny style of placing posts, then you can understand him!


I also find it funny, not, HAHA, about some of the stringent rules and covenets of some of the Religious Based Schools about dos and donts in this day of enlightenment. Maybe if Women hadnt been given the right to vote or get drivers licenses there would be know problem with them acting the way they do at their schools.

I wonder if they beleive in evolution and teach it?

Da Cold in Kansas City, next ass who says Global Warming, Going to go for his nose!:mad:

There is nothing "quirky" about insulting people, calling them names and insulting their organizations.

i wonder why A&F is blatantly anti-Christ? They don't give any reason, but I guess that's how these people live their lives....just blindly do what people tell them.

if by A&F you mean abercrombie, I would hazard a guess that it's because of their near pornographic catalogs

true, but there have been other labels with the same near-pornographic catalogs and they are not singled out. Perhaps though, that falls under the category of "You do not need expensive clothing".

The University website does give a reason for not allowing abercrombie & fitch clothing "Abercrombie & Fitch and its subsidiary Hollister have shown an unusual degree of antagonism to the name of Christ and an unusual display of wickedness in their promotions. In protest, we will not allow articles displaying their logos to be worn, carried, or displayed (even if covered or masked in some way)." http://www.bju.edu/prospective/expect/dress.html
While there are other companies who have similar adverstising A&F seems to have had the most press about it from parents, etc which is probably why Bob Jones U has named them specifically.

As Christian, rasied attending a conservative Baptist church, I that I feel I have never blindly followed rules, etc such as some may see the students at Bob Jones doing. Sure as child I did what my parents told me to as far as what I wore, going to church but as I got older I looked for a way that these Bible-based ideas applied to my current life and chose my beliefs and live style from there. I would venture a guess that the students attending Bob Jones have done that same. Their choices may be different from ours in many ways but is that really a reason to call them out?

more rules
 

this is funny...........
this is kinda getting off the subject but it is too good to keep....This is from Bob Jones University, but this is pretty much the same for all Baptist colleges. This is totally not about making fun of the Baptist demonimation, but seriously these rules are ridiculous.

Residence hall students may not watch videos above a G rating when visiting homes in town and may not attend movie theaters.

Televisions and DVD/videocassette players are not permitted in the residence halls; computer DVD players may not be used to view movies.


Work
Students may work in town until 10:25 pm on weekdays and midnight on weekends. Freshmen and sophomores may not use their vehicles to go to and from work.
Students may not serve alcoholic beverages when waiting tables at restaurants.



This is my favorite:

Contemporary Christian music is not permitted (e.g., Michael W. Smith, Stephen Curtis Chapman, WOW Worship, and so forth).


for those who do not know, this music is very light and the kind of songs you would hear in most churches. It is too modern for this school. Like I said, if it is not Southern Gospel or straight from the hymnals, it is wrong...

One of my sisters (and bestest friend) was forced to go to Bob Jones by her parents. She is a little hell raiser and needless to say, she didn't last very long! Her stories are a trip! She talked about the wall that surounds the campus. According to her, their are several people that are forced to go there and stay in trouble, other wise known as spiritual probation.

I also taught a CPR class this summer and one of my students transfered from BJU to Barton. She was forced there by her church and parents and didn't really have much to say about what went on there. She said that the reason she transfered was for Barton's nursing program and it was closer to her fiancee.

Barton was once called Atlantic Christan College, but I have never heard any outrageous stories about rules and whatnot. There were several greek organizations on campus then.

What is scary, is the Robotrons thsat go to these type of Schools and beleive in this type of Dogma?

Maybe being a Liberated Person, I just Feel This Way?

Now, Forced to Go, I can Understand!:D

What is scary too, is enough People go there to keep them Open?

Thank God, I am Semi Normal!:cool:

LSAT?
 

Don't know for sure what LSAT is, nor do not know what it has
to do with g.p.a., but understand now it is used to evaluate those
who intend on entering the second-oldest profession.
My...how many other angry ladies read this site? Perhaps you
oughta go out and have a good nite with a Sig Ep. He'll tell you when you're done...
Maybe if you'd concentrate on helping out your respective outfits
your time would be better spent. Even after all these years, I
find there's more hay down than we can put up. Can you sift thru
all this? Also, after reaching 65, I think some of us oldies can be
given some poetic license on grammar. We have paid our dues,
and as regarding ebonics, ax me.

The LSAT is the Law School Admission Test. You need to take it to go to most law schools in North America (I think Quebec is the only jurisdiction in North America that doesn't require it.). Your LSAT results, along with your GPA determine whether you'll be admitted to law school or not.

Re: LSAT?
 

Good God, you continue to amaze me.

Re: LSAT?
 

Just because you're older doesn't mean that you can just "not use" the rules of grammar. IT HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND what you're trying to say. You know, if you are constantly going to try and claim superior intelligence over people, maybe you should proving it by posting things that people don't have to read twice to comprehend.

Oy - this place is bizzare... I'd heard about it before, but I just explored their website. Daily room inspections? Yikes! What do they go through everyone's stuff to look for DVD's or CD's? It seems ridiculous to me!

But that aside, as it's personal preference, the thing that pisses me off is their art gallery. They have several masterpieces and get public funding for it (the only public funding they receive) but have NO interpretation. No artist, no date, no title, no medium, no provenance, no guide are provided, other than to let patrons know that these works aren't scripturally correct and Catholicism is evil. My God, they have paintings by Peter-Paul Rubens, Anthony Van Dyck, Lucas Cranach the Elder, Paolo Veronese and Tintoretto, major masterpieces. And they don't even tell people who they're painted by. This creates a problem for scholars trying to get information about those works. If they can't be bothered to get the history right and look at it within a proper context, it makes me wonder if they even take any steps to conserve them, or if they're just going to discolor and flake until they're nothing but bits of canvas. :mad: Masterpieces have no place in a place that isn't going to appreciate them for what they are, for their place in art history, and the period that produced them. Ending rant now and stepping off the soapbox.

Another strange thing was in the Admissions Counselor section. They ask favourite "bible character". To me, character implies a fictional person. If they're taking the bible as verbatim truth, shouldn't it be "biblical figure"? Probably being too fussy about word choice, but it just doesn't seem right. [Oxford English Dictionary doesn't say one way or another as to the necessity of a character being fictional].

Re: LSAT?
 

I have good nights with a SigEp on a regular basis, and he happens to practice your esteemed profession. Thank you for your concern about my romantic life.

Some of the things said on this site never cease to amaze me.

Now back to studying for that test that gets me into the 2nd oldest profession in the world...

Re: more rules
 

This sounds just like my Pentacostal monster in law. (her quote): "There is no such thing as Christian rock or Christian rap"

Whateva...it comes in all genres

Glitter, baby
 

'course it could just be that you are not keen enough to
understand all this....

Re: Glitter, baby
 

Hey, leave SigEp out of your squabble.

Re: Glitter, baby
 

Could be, but I doubt it. :D

Re: Re: Glitter, baby
 

I think he's just jealous he's too old to take me out. :p

Re: Sig Ep, sorry
 

I can't believe I'm getting involved in this...

But, honestly, Erik, you're HOW old? Most people in your age range (like, oh, say, my grandparents) would not a) stoop to belittling insults to a female 1/3 of their age and b) if so, refer to them as "hoggers" or "losers".

And I really don't think there is an overage of "angry women" on GC. I think there are a lot of women who have been taught that we don't HAVE to be treated like crap, nor is it okay for a man to talk down to us. But hey, that's just my theory on the matter. If that makes me angry, awesome.

-Nikki, the angriest woman in North America

I heart Nikki.


And I would have to agree that there is no surplus of angry women on GC . . . if anything, I think most of them aren't angry enough.

But I would think that, wouldn't I? ;)

I agree with the above posters. I thought fraternity men, especially fraternity men from Erik's time period were taught to be gentlemen! Calling posters "losers" and "hoggers" does not a gentleman make.

ETA: Changed the last sentence so it makes more sense

Co-signing on what everyone else has to say and still not believing that no one seems to be disturbed by the whole "ax me" crap.

CC-What "ax me" crap? What did I miss? (I tend to get disturbed pretty easily, so I'm sure I must of overlooked this ;))

ETA: Found. Wow. Happy MLK Day to you, Erik.

It never fails to amaze me to see someone talking about their education, then showing their ignorance 2 lines later.

Re: LSAT?
 

This was the whole ax me crap.

As I stated before, I don't think there is an overage of "angry women" on GC. Just ones that were raised not to take crap when men who can't write english insult their intelligence.

Re: Re: Sig Ep, sorry
 

Its probably equally belittling to say that Erik should behave in a certain way based on your expectations of how someone with a certain chronological age should behave.

It would be like sying you couldn't believe single women over 35 that go out and party don't won't to settle down and have kids.

I am not defending erik. I don't know who started it here or elsewhere, but there is enough hostility all around to make it hard to debate topics.

Also, always remember: Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they are not right. And vice versa.

Re: Sig Ep, sorry
 

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WHY IS ERIK P CONARD NOT BANNED? HE IS A DISGRACE TO TAU KAPPA EPSILON AND ALL OF GREEKDOM.

Ah, James, once again you make common sense as usual!

Nice Post By The By!:)

Wish I could have said it so well!:)

Wish I could be more like you!:cool:

"Ah, To Be Or Not To Be":D
Dat Be Da Question or what ever!?!

Enough is enough
 

Look, all the squabblers really need to take this garbage to another forum or PM each other. I am really enjoying the posts about Bob Jones University and I don't want the mods to close this thread on account of some silly s[no]t.

Essentially, if you have nothing to add to this thread regarding Bob Jones University, I (and other GCers) would appreciate it if you refrain from making any further personal attacks in this thread.

Mods, can you delete the off-topic posts, but please don't lock the thread?

Yeah, I was enjoying the discussion we were having until it turned 3rd grade (and please, no comments about "if so-and-so hadn't said what he/she said, I wouldn't have written what I wrote....")


I'll repeat my earlier question to try to get things back on track. Why does BJU put such an emphasis on women looking "feminine". How is that in keeping with fundamentalist Christian ideals (not saying it is or it isn't - I'm just curious for input).

this thread should actually be moved to somewhere in chit chat, as it hasn't really been focused on discussing their version of greek life, more the culture of the campus and their rules.

thanks, Rain Man
 

thank you for your intervention and sage advice. I think we have
run the gamut here. Again, thanks.

Well, actually, I was interested in discussing their version of rush for their so-called "literary societies" (read: sororities and fraternities).

In the admission booklet, that naraht posted a link to, there is a section on how to join one of the societies. The booklet advises students to go to rush week and then write down the name of the society they wish to join on the last day. So, it looks to me like the societies don't get to choose their members - that is, they have to let in anyone who chooses them. With that in mind.....


I would have thought this is the case too. However, if there is no mutual selection process, then, couldn't lots of less-desireable students join the more desireable societies without being stopped? What does the university do when an unusual amount of rushees all wish to join a small handful of the societies? I wish we could ask the BJU students, but they're probably not allowed to access greekchat....

.....Kelly :)

I'm sure the rules allow them to join, but perhaps they get glares or nobody talks to them.

-Rudey

Would it be un-Christian to reject someone who is less desirable? Or to even deem someone "less desirable"? You know, "judge not lest ye be judged ye-selves" or something like that.

I think KDDani's point was more that it has gone off-topic into Bob Jones' culture, not saying that the original post wasn't greek-related. I think noone really knows anything about the literary societies (besides some of our... including my... limited knowledge on Erskine literary societies... but that's not really related to Bob Jones).

And as far as the question about femininity being fundamentalist. In the Bible (somewhere, I'm not sure where) it says that a woman should be submissive to a man. I think a skirt is the way to show that submissiveness, but I may be wrong. I do find it interesting that on the website there are pictures of girls in t-shirts and jeans, though.