How old is Kobe's accuser, again? :confused: That girl looks all of 15 years old! :confused:

She's 19. I have to think that's an old picture of her.

No One is Safe on the Net
 

No one is safe on the net!!

http://geocities.com/Kobewatch

Court Documents http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

Page 5 of this court document does give the address of the vitctim which is the same address listed on that angelfire website.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/b...rd71403cmp.pdf

Now how did the European newspaper get the child's name?
http://www.eurweb.com/articles/headl...0507172003.cfm


:eek:

Re: No One is Safe on the Net
 

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

**SMH**


EDITED TO ADD:

EURWEB is not a European publication. It is an American based urban entertainment site mainly for Blacks.

Tsk Tsk Tsk, as a woman its sad either, she has been violated or she is using the most sacred thing a woman has to victimize him. Its just sad period.:confused:

Exactly...

But on another note, :eek: to how her identity was found out and is plastered ALL OVER the internet...But, as she is an adult, she has no right to her i.d. being hidden anyway...

Re: No One is Safe on the Net
 

Actually to be honest, all of her info is public records. Once a case if filed and it goes on record, anyone can go in and request a copy. I do say that the first wesite that you posted was done maliciously by someone. They boldly printed her name, address, and phone number, as well as pictures. There are also links to other sites about her. It's just horrible.

http://www.freekobe.com/








:confused: :rolleyes:

http://ecsd2.re50j.k12.co.us/EVHS/st...andcaitlin.jpg

This is the real picture of Kobe's accuser. The blonde in the blue. This is the picture that was shown on CNN with her face blurred out.

I had a feeling that other picture was not her for the simple fact that it was a picture on the website high school website for 2002-2003 (unless the school website did not update the picture for the 2002-2003 term). The accuser graduated in 2002. Also, she is said to be a cheerleader, and that picture on the website is listed as dance team.

long story short
 

Where is Johnny Cochran when you need him, 'cause this is definitely the next "OJ" case!

Re: long story short
 

umm according to the Kappa I work with, headed to Charlotte to kick it with his bruhs. :o

Re: Re: long story short
 

Well, at least JC is representing. :p
But I can see this becoming Kobethal. And that's not cool.
:o

Girl- you are right on point.

Statistically, claims of sexual assault are just as true as claims of ANY other crime. 1 out of 3 women will be sexually assualted in their life time. I personally think he did it and it is probably not the first time. Its about power not sex. It has nothing to do with looks, money, or status. He is a sick individual. IF he truly did do it, I hope he goes to jail. He did this to himself...... It is all his fault. He put himself in that situation. He needs to run to his people and let them sympathize with him. Don't scream for black folks now!

CONSENT FORMS
 

2 words - - - CONSENT FORMS

I have nothing to say about the Kobe thing in terms of the fact that he cheated on his wife. I'm pretty sure it's not the first time and still may not be the last. Can we say.."They all do it". Maybe not all of them, but most of them do. That situation is truly between Kobe-God-and his wife. The adultery side ain't none of my business.

HOWEVER - - for these dumb a$$ athletes, entertainers, and every other stupid adulterous man out there.....have consent forms drawn up. On the nightstand - - next to the condoms - - have the consent forms waiting. When y'all are ready to get down to it, have the gold-digging wench sign it and then y'all can get down and dirty. Teams should even go so far as to have a travelling notary with them - make it really foolproof.

Jim Rome
 

Right now, Romey is interviewing a Loyola School of Law professor who said she didn't think that Kobe Bean Bryant should bring in Johnnie Cochran because it's a "Colorado case" and that his defense team has Colorado experience.

As an aside, I also wonder if Kobe's advisors would consider even bringing in JC because JC is a lightning rod for controversy, rightly or wrongly. Kobe may not want to be seen as another Ojjjenthal.

Enough already!
 

I am so sick of the whole Kobe thing. It is disgusting to me to see her picture all over the internet. If anyone of us were a rape victim and the media actually had enough respect NOT to put your identity out there, how horrific for the ASSES on the internet to go out of their way to victimize you again.

I have no opinion one way or another as to whether or not he did it. Just because he is Kobe Bryant NBA player makes no difference to me. People are so quick to jump to conclusions. None of the people out here speculating one way or another know much about the evidence, the story or the statements given in this case. To say because he is in the NBA or is Kobe means he did or didn't do it is absolutely ludicrous. Any person is capable of a crime, even rape, regardless of their status. If Jason Kidd can beat up his wife, Winona Rider can shoplift, Kobe can force himself on a woman. Period.

And on the flip side she could be fabricating the rape aspect of their encounter. We don't know and have not been given the information to make that determination. He could be innocent but that would be because he did not do it not be cause he is a superstar. Being a superstar does not make you innocent, not committing crimes does.

Who he is and what he does should not be a factor in that determination. How can anyone say anything about either one of their character unless you know them personally. Images are often false but, as many of the discussions around this case show, certainly mean a lot.

And what a license to assault that is for those famous people who would do such a thing. What a great way to intimidate future witnesses. Before anyone knew anything about whether or not their is evidence supporting her story she was depicted as a gold digging whore who set him up. No one knew if there was DNA. No one knew if there were bruises. No one knew if their were witnesses who saw or heard anything. All they knew was she accused their precious Kobe, poster boy, so she must be lying. What a wonderful tool to discourage women who are actually raped by celebrities from coming forward.

I ABSOLUTELY think he should be treated as innocent until proven guilty and so should she. Hell, she has not been accused of a crime but has certainly been convicted by many of lying.

On a side note, and from a legal perspective, I do find it interesting that the story went from nothing happened to well, by nothing I mean I had sex with her but it was consensual. That is what I would advise a client accused of sexual assault whose DNA was likely to be found on the accuser to say. If you say nothing happened you have to explain away how your DNA ended up on her but if you say it was consensual you limit the question to the he said she said of whether it really was or was not done with consent.

I think it is unfortunate that in so many ways celebrities are cut so much slack for their alleged crimes when if he was “Kobe from the block” no one would give a damn or act so invested in the outcome. It taints the whole process.

3 sides to every story...
 

Kobe's ex-girlfriend of 2 months (a sista) Jamika or Jameelah White (I think) was on Larry King with other panelists last night. She talked about her "relationship" with the Kobester.

I agree with Soror Prayerfull. MOST of them cheat. He got caught. I think this is the only thing he is sorry about. I don't put anything past anyone these days. He made the statement, "do I look like I'd do something like that (before he admitted to cheating)? What does a criminal, rapist, drug dealer, etc supposed to look like? :confused: :rolleyes:

That press conference was a hott mess.

Has anyone seen "The Life of David Gale?" Saw it last night. For those of you who have, the bathroom scene..yeah, that's how it all goes down. Hot...heavy...heated..a little "rip off my panties" what man wouldn't? A little "slap my ass." What man wouldn't? A little "bite me here and there." What man wouldn't? Next thing you know it's rape WITH evidence and his word against hers.

Problem is is that most men can't think past the panties long enough to know when some $hit is going down. Don't bite/slap/scratch an a broad you don't know, who has NOTHING to lose, while you have everything...job, family, money, etc. idiot!

I hate that this is happening, but when are brothahs going to understand that no matter how big and well liked they are there are ALWAYS going to be some white folks willing and ready to bring you down. Not that there aren't Black but really, the history of this whole Black man meets white girl story is old as dirt and no matter how long it takes (Michael Jordan) they always end up screaming the same $hit. I think it's a set up to be honest. No one new he was in friggin' Colorado, not even his doctor.

That's my take. Tiger...uhm...you betta watch out! Don't think them Swedish/German/Dutch broads won't do the same to yo' a$$...

Um Kobe? Yeah, hi. Can I get you to at LEAST cheat with someone that is of equal or greater attractiveness than your wife? And if it WASN'T consensual, lordy. The chick is not ugly, but why on earth would he cheat on his wife with her? Or rape her if that turns out to be true? DUMBA$$.

this article
 

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...23/detail.html

I just read this article and it makes you think. Kobe was in Colorado to have knee surgery. Now if you knee is hurt how are you going to force some one to have sex with you. You might can do it if both parties are agreed but not forced.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/spor...20/detail.html

This other article shows that the girl was going to some thangs and who knows she could have thrown herself at Kobe.

Maybe it's just me but I feel he is innocent as far as raping her. I feel as though she needed some affection for one night and got it then she wanted something more and he realized he had made a mistake messing with her.

It's interesting that there we have many opinions to this scenario but their are only 2 sides, either which we are not exposed to. However as many opinions as we have ther is one who knows the reason, truth and outcome.....nobody is perfect but God has a way of breaking us down we when do things that displease him such as being unfaithful, maybe we should step back and let whoever rather it is the accuser/vitim or accused/victim learn their life lesson

Like I told my LS yesterday (she had the same sentiments), the _____ (fill in whatever word you want to use) isn't "cute. attractive" either, if you know what I mean. Men don't care what IT looks like, as long as they get to "hit" IT. :o :eek: (Sad, but true).

I thought he was in Colorado for his shoulder. :confused: I wondered in the beginning, the same thing TheOne.

I agree. Kobe needed lessons on humility. He always acted to me as being invincible.

Lessons Learned...

Precisely. The only two people who know what happened are Kobe and his ALLEGED victim. I don't know what happened, so I'm still willing to take a wait-and-see attitude.

On another topic, I can't recall how Desiree Washington was identified. Some news organizations must have broken an embargo.

Most reputable news organizations, however, will not publish the name of an alleged rape victim, regardless of her age of maturity or not.

Re: 3 sides to every story...
 

i watched that too...did you get the sense that people who were calling in couldn't believe he dated her? it seemed like so many people who called were skeptical....maybe cause she was a black girl?

It waas reported on the Doug Banks show that Kobe bought Vanessa a $4 million dollar purple diamond ring. :eek: :o

Also another one of Kobe's ex-girls has popped up on TV. She was on Fox TV last night but had nothing bad to say. She said she dated him for 5 years and their relationship ended when he decided to marry Vanessa.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKS!! @ ring

Umm that must be ol girl who was on her way to med school or in med school back in Philly.???

I'm not sure. She didn't say anything about med school, but she did say that she received her BA from Drexel. She looked like she could be Latina.

Doug Bank is Wrong
 

This morning they had a special "tribute" to Kobe. It was After 7's "Heat of the Moment" mixed in with statements Kobe made during his press conference. Here are the actual words to "Heat of the Moment":

Heat Of The Moment
L.A. Reid and Babyface

There comes a time in every man's life
You're gonna do wrong
I made a mistake girl..Just let me..
Just let me explain

I can't believe it
Although I did it
I've never been that kinda man
I must admit it
I wasn't with it
But you were the best I've ever had

Right now I'm going thru some changes
I've always thought I was
A faithful kind of man
I never thought I would be tempted
Baby you licked my lips
And I said right now...right now

In the heat of the moment**
Baby I lost my head. Lost my mind
Didn't know what to do
In the heat of the moment
Baby I fell in lust with you

Now that I've done it
Oh how I want it
But I've got to be a stronger man
I love my lady
Can't lose my baby
Cause if she knew
I'd lose everything I have

Don't want to go thru no more changes
From now on I promise I will be a better man
But here you are again temptin'
Baby when you lick my lips. I said
Right now, right now

Repeat chorus**2x

Baby Baby you've got to slow down
From now on I promise I will be a better man
Now...Now I know that you know
That we can't carry on like this
Girl stop...just stop
Baby when you kissed my lips, I said
Right now...Right now

Repeat chorus 3x

Lyrics from: http://members.aol.com/kevon247/after7lyrics.html#heat

Shock jock Tom Leykis
 

Identified the Kobe accuser:

http://msnbc.com/news/942322.asp

Re: Doug Bank is Wrong
 

See, THIS is the only thing I hate about not working. I miss Tom Joyner and all their antics. I heard J. Anthony has really been "cuttin' up". :D

(Taken from an article written by Ron Borges of NBC Sports)

"We pay more attention to the case of a baby-faced black basketball star with a pristine reputation and a 19-year-old blonde, white cheerleader-turned-hotel concierge who alleges she was sexually assaulted after delivering a very late dinner to Bryant's room than we do to whether or not our President juiced the info he used to start a war."

Re: Re: Doug Bank is Wrong
 

I KNOW!! I am usually in the car in the mornings and now I am damn near 3 months behind on "It's Your World."

*quick hijack* What happened to Red Bone? Did he go to jail? Is Sky still "Danielle?" Is she still alive? Maybe I should check the website.... :D

Deep.

SO TRUE, SO TRUE!!!

We pay more attention because as a society, we're fixated on sex, particularly interracial sex. Back in the 1950s, magazines that featured Sammy Davis Jr. allegedly dropping hammer on Ava Gardner and the like were hot sellers.:rolleyes:

RD,
I never have a chance to hear IYW, because I'm in the classroom then.

Yesterday on another message board, the question was raised:

:rolleyes: How many of yall would turn down a 4Million Dollar Ring?:rolleyes:

My response to that:

I couldn't turn it down but damn where would i wear it? I couldn't stay with him, though, because what if this is not the first or the last time? PRetty soon you will have a lot of real jewels but a fake marriage. I want the marriage, not the guilt gifts.

So if you were Kobe's wife, would you accept the ring?

HE** Yea! I would accept that along with the 50% of everything else he owns combined with a divorce attorney. He put her out there bad and he didn't even use a condom. I would need some time and healing to get over all my suffering and a $4 million dollar ring might jumpstart my recovery!:p

I knew this would happen.........
 

Gag order comes after police report made public

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Associated Press


EAGLE, Colo. -- A judge, seeking to quell rumors and reports that could affect a trial in the Kobe Bryant case, Thursday issued a gag order on attorneys, witnesses and others involved in the case.

The move came after scrutiny of Bryant's accuser intensified after police said she was hospitalized as a "danger to herself'' four months before the alleged sexual assault.

University of Northern Colorado police chief Terry Urista said campus police received a call about 9 p.m. on Feb. 25 regarding a woman in a dormitory room.


"An officer determined she was a danger to herself,'' he said. "It's classified as a mental health issue.''


The woman was transported by ambulance to North Colorado Medical Center of Greeley, Urista said. He refused to say whether it was a suicide attempt.



Prosecutors and an attorney for Bryant's 19-year-old accuser have declined to discuss details of the case or the background of the woman. Records relating to the case were sealed.


Robert Pugsley, a criminal law professor at Southwestern University in Los Angeles, said if the two incidents turn out to be suicide attempts it could weaken the prosecution's case.


"The more these indications of instability emerge, the more difficult it might prove for the prosecutor to persuade the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that this young woman did not misinterpret the event,'' he said.


Another legal expert said the suicide attempt claims may never be heard at trial.


Christopher Mueller, a law professor at the University of Colorado in Boulder, said judges can exclude evidence that exposes a witness to undue embarrassment if it isn't essential to the charges.


"When there is no connection proven, that argument becomes pretty difficult,'' he said. "A court may very well bar it.''


Mueller also said the defense will think "long and hard'' about whether to label Bryant's accuser unstable and suicidal. "To attack a person who comes into a court as a victim is always a tricky thing,'' he said.


Bryant was charged with felony sexual assault after his accuser told authorities he attacked her at an Edwards resort June 30. Bryant said the sex was consensual.


Meanwhile, Eagle County Judge Fred Gannett issued an order limiting public comment about the case by attorneys, authorities and others involved in the case, including Bryant and any witnesses.


Citing concern about pretrial news coverage, the judge said it was his duty to try to guarantee a fair trial.


"Where the case is a notorious one, that burden on the court is heavy,'' Gannett wrote.


Before the judge's ruling, Eagle County Sheriff Joe Hoy dismissed speculation by at least one of the woman's friends that she is having second thoughts about going forward with the case.


"As far as I've heard, that is just plain rumor,'' Hoy said. "That is just off-board.''


Prosecutors met with the woman at length at her lawyer's office this week and interviewed other young women at the district attorney's office in Eagle. Friends say the woman is strong enough to withstand the media attention.


Krista Flannigan, a spokeswoman for District Attorney Mark Hurlbert, said the final decision about pursuing the case rests with prosecutors, who represent the public and not just the victim.


"It's not her complaint against him. It's the people of Colorado against him,'' she said.


Prosecutors have sometimes decided to continue cases, including sexual assault and domestic violence ones, without the cooperation of victims, she said.


Hoy, who was accused by defense attorneys of rushing the case against Hurlbert's wishes, also said it was up to the prosecutor whether to go to trial.


"It wouldn't be her choice,'' Hoy said.