BrownEyedGirl, PKTKKG and I were at the Horseshoe, too--wish we had known! Wasn't it a fabulous day?! The Kappa new members are awesome, and we're so proud of them.

Did you meet any of the Gamma Phi representatives at any of the parties? I guess they'll start colonizing in a few weeks. I think PKTKKG just about gave one of them a heart attack when she told her how much the houses cost!

Yes we are ready to start colonizing at USC (the other USC! ;) ) -- I helped the alum chapter get organized for this much awaited event. That is great news about every chapter taking quota! Our "powers-that-be" were already aware of the costs for building a house there -- :eek: -- but they know that is the price of doing business there, so to speak! We are very excited! :D

Re: University of South Carolina Results
 

What WONDERFUL news!!!! Congratulations to the Clemson Panhel, who have it all together!!!

How many and which sorority houses are constructed and occupied on the Horseshoe now? Is there a sequence for what GLO is next?
It has been awhile since I checked things out -- and then it was just the Zeta house that was there -- I was in awe! Talk about bling bling!!:eek: Can't imagine what the Kappa house looks like....

Mississippi State Results
 

Quota at MSU was 59. All sororities,except one made Quota.

Re: Mississippi State Results
 

Jeff.. Quota at Mississippi State was 50!

Thanks Browneyed Girl -- what a fantastic shot of the Kappa house and the rainbow! :)
The map link did not come thru though....

Bad Info??
 

Sorry ,I was told it was 59 at MSU...

Re: Bad Info??
 

Who knows.. I will be in Starville on Wednesday.. I will verify my info again.. but, if it was 59.. then no one made quota... I do not believe any chapter took more than 55?

I heard that one missed quota during matching.. but snapped..

And never heard Zeta's numbers..

Gorgeous Kappa house! Makes me wish that I'd had a house to live in. Congrats to my sisters and all the chapters at USC!

Angels and Arows Info
 

You were right and I was wrong. Quota at MSU was 50 according to the Student Affairs Office. Sorry..

It's sad but not suprising. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. Some women just don't match even if quota additions are done. (Quota additions can only be a certain % of Quota. I don't have my Green Book so I can't state what that % is supposed to be.) It hurts like hell and everyone feels bad but it happens. I know that Angie (Assistant GA) has been working very hard to minimize it but it's difficult.

The other side is that while the chapters love getting the NMs, several of them feel that they are large enough. I am not starting a debate about the quality of sisterhood of a 200(+) member chapter. There are just other logistics that go into it all.

Personally, I haven't heard from my neighbor yet who was going though. She stopped talking to her mom midway through because she was driving her crazy. ;) Neighbor didn't stop talking to her dad though and he said that she was invited to pref by her two favorites!

U of S Carolina Bid day article
 

In todays Gamecock student newspaper:

http://www.dailygamecock.com/main.cf...id/703907.html

How did all those Chi O's manage the same length short/skirt in the photo??

Just a note: there are no greek houses on the Horseshoe. The Horseshoe is the historic part of campus and the housing there is mostly for Honors College students. You mean Greek Village. I don't know about spaces being available but someone at SC can chime in if there are any left.

aopirose, Thank you for that helpful background. My initial reaction was probably partly due to an awareness that other campuses do things differently. For instance, the University of Kansas -- admittedly not as competitive as most SEC schools, but by no means totally laid back -- explains on one of its Greek life pages

"Although the Panhellenic Association would love to be able to guarantee every prospective member a place in a chapter, there is no guarantee in the first three rounds of recruitment that a prospective member’s chapter rankings will match with the chapters’ “lists.” However, we can guarantee a prospective member a spot in a chapter during the final round, Preference Round. We have a system of Maximizing Your Options that is offered to every prospective member that is still in the process on this day. This means that if a prospective member ranks all of the chapters that she attended on Preference Round, she is guaranteed a spot in one of those chapters. For example, if she attends three Preference Round Events and lists all three chapters, she will be guaranteed a place in one of those chapters. If she attends two events and lists both chapters, she will be in one of the two chapters. If she attends one chapter and puts that one chapter on her Preference Card then she WILL be in that chapter. However, this does not mean that she will automatically receive her first choice in all cases. If a prospective member attends three chapters and only ranks two of them on her Preference Card, she is not guaranteed a spot in any of the chapters."

So I have to recognize that LSU's Panhellenic has chosen what seems right for them, just as other Panhellenics (and the University of Kansas is not the only school with a Maximizing Your Options policy) may take a different route.

My friend'd little sister that was going through at UT-Knoxville ended up going Phi Mu and she is so excited. I am excited for her & for Phi Mu because she is an awesome girl!

Re: Re: Re: University of South Carolina Results
 

I was in Columbia a couple of weeks ago and finally got to see the new Greek Village in person. All of the houses are so beautiful!

BrownEyedGirl - there was one house that was a bit bigger than all of the others but did not have letters on it yet. It is still under construction. Do you know what it is? I think it was next to DZ.

I love the rainbow over the Kappa house! That was taken prior to landscaping--the yard is beautiful now. Your secret is safe with me, BrownEyedGirl!

Actually, the map is a little outdated/incorrect. The Chi Psi's have built on the other side of the DZ house. The Chi Psi's are where the b'ball court is on the map. Lambda Chi Alpha hasn't started building yet and I don't know what their plans are, so the house shown on the map is not there! I'm not sure of the "pecking order" or even if there are any lots left. PKTKKG would be able to give you better info.

Re: Re: Re: University of South Carolina Results
 

OOPS!! I always seem to confuse Univ. of Southern CA with Univ. of South Carolina - my bad!

The photos are WONDERFUL!!! Do you have one of the ADPi house, by any chance? One of our GC sisters collects photos of them!

Maybe, in LSUs case, it is time to expand on the Soroity level?

If there are that many women cut, they cannot all be so bad as not to be asked to join. These numbers could supprt a total New Soroity. There are to many Great Soroitys not to have another on Campus.

While I do not have figures to back me, it seems from reading so many posts, that greek Figures for Recruitment are on a slow but steady climb, system wide.:)

This is inspite of rising costs at Colleges, and the economy.

It also seems that more and more schools are coming to the realization that Greeks are an intregal part of the College Scene!

Especially when so many Grads and Donors to the College are Greeks!:cool:

What a great picture of the Kappa Kappa Gamma, with the rainbow!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by exlurker
[B]aopirose, Thank you for that helpful background. My initial reaction was probably partly due to an awareness that other campuses do things differently. For instance, the University of Kansas -- admittedly not as competitive as most SEC schools, but by no means totally laid back -- explains on one of its Greek life pages

"Although the Panhellenic Association would love to be able to guarantee every prospective member a place in a chapter, there is no guarantee in the first three rounds of recruitment that a prospective member’s chapter rankings will match with the chapters’ “lists.” However, we can guarantee a prospective member a spot in a chapter during the final round, Preference Round. We have a system of Maximizing Your Options that is offered to every prospective member that is still in the process on this day. This means that if a prospective member ranks all of the chapters that she attended on Preference Round, she is guaranteed a spot in one of those chapters. For example, if she attends three Preference Round Events and lists all three chapters, she will be guaranteed a place in one of those chapters. If she attends two events and lists both chapters, she will be in one of the two chapters. If she attends one chapter and puts that one chapter on her Preference Card then she WILL be in that chapter. However, this does not mean that she will automatically receive her first choice in all cases. If a prospective member attends three chapters and only ranks two of them on her Preference Card, she is not guaranteed a spot in any of the chapters."



i agree with this policy. I think if a PNM goes to all the preference parties she's allowed to or gets invited to if not the maximum, and lists them on her bid card, they should not be denied a bid. Just my opinion.

Baby Berry's good buddy at Bama went Phi Mu!

U of Alabama bid list is up
 

Sure would be nice if this was in Excel:
http://uanews.ua.edu/anews2004/aug04...dges082304.htm

Here are the numbers: 777 out of 1,003 pledged.
Sadly...apparently no one pledged Sigma Delta Tau. I believe they did participate in formal recruitment.

ALPHA CHI OMEGA-59
ALPHA DELTA PI-58
ALPHA GAMMA DELTA-51
ALPHA OMICRON PI-59
CHI OMEGA-57
DELTA DELTA DELTA-59
DELTA ZETA-57
GAMMA PHI BETA-34
KAPPA ALPHA THETA-57
KAPPA DELTA-54
KAPPA KAPPA GAMMA-56
PHI MU-59
PI BETA PHI-55
ZETA TAU ALPHA-62

Yeah, one of the Chi Psi's at USC explained it to me... apparently there are some chapters that are so strict about it they call themselves "lodgers." Interesting, though, considering their construction sign had a big "Chi Psi" on it. Their house is definitely ENORMOUS, though. Rumor has it they had so much money from alumni (Chi Psi is the oldest fraternity on campus, believe it or not) that they helped SAE fund their house. I don't know how much of that is true, but it came from a Chi Psi, so I would assume it is.

Re: University of South Carolina Results
 

I actually was the one to make a motion during sorority council for that new system. I'm so glad that things have FINALLY improved. I wish that it wasn't before losing two chapters, but it makes me feel good that something has changed for the better. What it does is rearrange the numbers so that the sororities that normally have high return rates invite less girls back... it makes them think long and hard about the girls that they REALLY want to take, so that girls get cut sooner and can think about more "realistic" choices. Sorry if that's blunt. It's a really good system, and I was a little nervous that it wouldn't work, but apparently it did, at least this year. Hopefully next year it will work just as well once there are 9 sororities again. :-)

And can I say... that picture does not do justice to ZTA's house!!! It is even MORE beautiful inside. Their website might still have pictures, but I recommend going inside it if you ever have the chance. I've never been inside Kappa's or Alpha Chi's, but I've been inside all the rest, and they will make anyone drool. Definitely worth the struggle that these women and men went through to get there!

As far as I know, all the lots are full. We were told there would be a Phase II, however, but I'm not sure if that was just a rumor, because I'm not quite sure where there's land to put it. All of the sororities (including Gamma Phi) now have lots, but a few of the fraternities are still waiting. I can think of 3 off the top of my head, but there may be one or two more that I'm forgetting about. And as far as I know, it's "first come, first serve" as far as who will get the next lot, if one ever opens. But there is TONS of paperwork that has to be done first.

One of my good friends is a Kappa new member at USC and she loves it so far!

Yes it is my understanding that USC was part of the official release figure pilot by NPC. UGA was not part of the "official" release figure pilot and did their own modified version - which could explain why 9/18 matched quota (if this is indeed true)

how does the new system differ
 

I was wondering how the new system differs from the old system. Can anyone give us a cliff notes version of how the new system works.

That's great!!! Thanks for sharing! I hope it is a wonderful experience for her.

DG at LSU made quota.....I'm not sure on specifics if there are any.

DG at the University of Tennessee also made quota plus two (I have the specific number but I left it at the house tonight....oops!!! If anyone knows go ahead and post it, otherwise I'll submit it tomorrow when I get my notebook!)

YAY DG!!!!


edited because I'm an idiot and have too much going on in my head right now. I meant UT not UK! sorry!!!

Re: U of Alabama bid list is up
 

Yay for Kappa Alpha Theta!!!!!!!!!!! :)

You are just TOO SWEET!! Please don't to any major trouble, though on my account, though! I hope to be in South Carolina in February, and I can't think of a better excuse to visit a few houses... ;)

Re: how does the new system differ
 

The University of Michigan was a pilot for the new system last year. I don't know if they tweaked at all, but this thread from last year will give you the gist of it:

University of Michigan release figures thread

Dee

Re: U of Alabama bid list is up
 

AnchorAlumna.. Pi Phi pledged 56... I double checked the names on our list...

I threw it into an excel spreedsheet... and for someone who did not use one... all your other numbers were perfect! I am in awwweee if you counted them by hand!

Re: Re: University of South Carolina Results
 

I just thought I would let you know that the land that the Kappa, DZ, and Chi Psi houses are on is Phase II. USC moved lots from beside the Alpha Chi house to make room for the alumni house. From what I understand, they are trying to pull the money together for a new alumni house.

Lambda Chi is supposed to break ground this fall, and I have heard from a couple of house directors that Sig Ep is trying to pull it together for the lot next to Chi Psi. USC revised the map of the Greek Village from what is on this site (as pointed out by another GCer), and has actually designated the space across from the Lambda Chi lot as another lot. Of course, this is a parking lot right now and I think USC would be hard pressed to take it away.

Should the alumni house not materialize and groups want land, I think USC would want to figure out a way to get that land back for any group that wants a lot. I've heard that Sig Ep, Pi Kappa Phi, and Delta Tau Delta are interested in building but haven't had the $$. As soon as they can pull their financing together, I'm sure they will get whatever is available.

The Gamma Phi Beta representatives attended our recruitment last week to observe, and their comments did not indicate that they had a lot. According to Greek Life, a chapter has to be here at least 1 year to apply for a lot and provide a number of statistics about the chapter before getting approved. Suffice it to say that based on this, I don't think Gamma Phi has a lot.

Re: Re: Re: University of South Carolina Results
 

pffffhh....never skim posts before you're fully awake...I was reading this and thought "they don't have a lot of what? That's kind of nasty to say. " :p

Sorry if this was posted already!! But....

UK's quota was 61......

Out of 12 houses, only 3 didn't make quota.....but apparently are really really close! Which is awesome!

Chi-O
ADPi
Delta Delta Delta
Alpha Gamma Delta
Pi Beta Phi
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Kappa Alpha Theta
Delta Gamma
Delta Zeta

all made quota!!!! Not a lot of info, but thats the best I got. :)

Thanks for the info about the Chi Psi house BrownEyedGirl and CarolinaDG!

The ADPi house is very cool in the way it was designed to take advantage of a corner lot. I wish I had my camera with me when I was there.

Auburn wasn't one of the "pilot" campuses but we used that system this year and it worked b-e-a-utifully.